Trump’s vaccine policy looks more and more prescient

In a major article today the Wall Street Journal reviewed all the Covid drugs and pretty much concluded nothing works. Yes there are some with modest credentials, but drugs like Remdesivir have been major disappointments. 

It turns out the vaccines are really the best treatments, administered before you get the disease. The English surge in cases, but only modest death rate increases demonstrates the value of the vaccine as medicine if you get the disease.

The early availability of the vaccines is down to Trump’s Warp speed and has saved countless lives….allowing the scientists to do their thing without the usual administrative shackles. 

Today Larry Kudlow Trump’s economic advisor called on Biden to ask Trump to act as a spokesman for the vaccine, reaching out to the vaccine deniers in Trump territory. It’s clearly the right thing to do, but Biden is such a political animal it’s never going to happen.

If they are that stupid that they will not listen to scientist but listen to that clown then stay stumm, the world has to many morons already and it will raise the IQ of America  in the long run.

Did you mean to say...

"...the world has to, many morons, and it will rise..."

Fix your grammar before you fling shit. 

Kiwi tit.

More globalist propaganda from the Globalist Dr Mozzzzz.

The stats show that Hydroxychloroquine  an Ivermectin are highly effective and I have presented evidence of this again and again. Indeed I have posted articles and clips by top medical experts saying as much and outlining how deadly these vaccines are.

Everyday Doctors etc around the world are issuing warnings about the experimental unapproved gene therapies and are exposing the lies surrounding the Covid hoax.

Dozens of lawsuits are being launched and filed. We know that the Nuremberg Code and the case law built on the Nuremberg code that requires medical intervention to be accepted on a voluntary basis and with INFORMED CONSENT has not been happening. For this reason and for the fact that irrefutable evidence of fraud and lies these lawsuits will succeed apart from rampantly corrupt judges.

Those guilty face tremendous consequences.

Indeed so scared are the Globalists that their narrative is being blown to pieces they are trying to censor world experts.

I have posted numerous articles show how Fauci has lied repeatedly and flip flopped etc. Now the maniac has been criminally referred to the corrupt DOJ.

Now we have the latest revelation. The CDC is saying they will cease using the PCR test as IT CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN COVID AND THE FLU. The UK will follow suite

FURTHER VACCINATED PEOPLE MUST WEAR MASKS BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPER SPREADERS.  See my thread to that effect quoting none other than Globalist propaganda machine NBC.

We all now should know the Globalist plot. Emergency use can only be granted for a drug by the FDA IF THERE ARE NO THERAPEUTICS. HENCE the CDC and other big Parma dependent entities said Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin was dangerous. That despite these drugs being used by billions and having been around for decades. Hydroxychloroquine has been used safely for some 70 years to treat Malaria and Lupus. Its is sold over the counter in many countries.

Remdesivir was indeed a flop and hugely expensive. Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are dirt cheap. Big Pharma don't like that.

Yes with the Globalist Marxist CCP demonrats wanting to lock down America and being aided and abetted by Globalist Uniparty Rinos the vaccines could have stopped a full on economic disaster. But even now its take the deadly vaxx or get fired from work or school, get cancelled.

It appears Trump had the wool pulled over his eyes regarding teh vaxx. When I look at what Trump actually did , all his policies were good for America and flew in the face of the Globalist agenda (As opposed to the disastrous China Joe admin). For that reason I think it is a well meaning error which I hope he corrects as soon as possible. At least Trump correctly says Vaxx should not be forced on people (THERE MUST ALSO BE INFORMED CONSENT - MEANING THE RISKS MUST BE EXPLAINED)

Well we shall see what happens as world wide protest erupt and compulsory vaccinations, masks, vaccination passports, lockdowns etc. As more and more people die from the vaccinations, suffer for mask and lockdowns the fury will continue to grow. Hopefully those guilty of this genocide will then face justice.

I am disgusted by this Moz post. It is pure unadulterated deadly Globalist propaganda. The type pedaled by CNN and MSNBC.

If I stepped of the planet?

Haha you mong.

Surely, there must be a book or two on primary school grammar down there in the Shire?

...or were they also chucked into the volcano?

One thing is for sure, the interwebs turned out a lot different from what we all thought it would. 

When I was 15 and learning what the internet was, I'd thought we'd move closer to the truth and all the benefits involved with that.

Turns out humans just can't resist the seduction of factionising when there's a new and more powerful tool in town.

"Wehe . . . the delusional, brainwashed and hopelessly ignorant anti-vaxxer inadvertenly admits that Bozo's..."

You lefties love your labels...what you lot are doing is similar to burning books, but it's OK because you are right and we are wrong..."delusional, brainwashed" right back at you.

Plum, the control freaks will always try to control as much as the think they can get away with...

Actually HasBeen-ou if you read my post again you will see the report comes from the WSJ….which is about the only sane major paper left in the world. They have no agenda against HCQ or any other drug. They simply don’t provide adequate protection….no drug does as they factually reported.

You are under the illusion that Pfizer or J&J are going to make a lot of money on these vaccines. They aren’t, it will hardly move the bottom line.

Unfortunately our information comes from seemingly credible sources on the left and the right. But it comes with an agenda….so my advice is follow the data you can trust. And much of it is dubious.

But what we do know is Covid exists…. it kills weak people, the old and infirm…it is spread by close contact….there is no study I have seen that prove masks work….no drug works adequately as printed by the WSJ, the best is probably the steroid if you are really sick….and vaccines protect you against all but the Delta variant, where they still dramatically reduce hospital cases as shown in England.

Those are the facts HasBeen and I ask you with tears in my eyes how can HCQ work on covid if, according to you , covid doesn’t exist.

Yes Beeno, how can you say that Covid does not exist and it is a hoax, and then a few days later promote treatments for it? 

It seems you don't even believe your own nonsense...
That, however, does not prevent you from bombarding the internet with total BS, that you don't even believe yourself.

All it is doing is giving more anti-vaxxers more reasons to not keep themselves, their family, and society safe. 

The likes of Tucker Carlson were first in line to get the vaccine and will not admit they have been vaccinated. They are happy to continue to spread negative information about vaccines that will prevent some people from getting vaccinated and therefore dying from Covid. 

It is amazing how many Christians Charlton's have such low morals, just like fanatical Muslims. 
They say they are good people because they are Christians, not despite it. 

You will find out what Christ does to an ungodly world raging against Him when He returns or at His judgment throne. 

It is clear Moz from your absurd post you have not read my posts. 

Pfizer etc will make billions. 

I am saying prøve it exists by producing an isolated sample. That should be very easy to do. 

I note you say nothing about the PCR test being withdrawn. That is very very telling. You ignore all evidence of top medical professionals I have posted on this board. 

Now I know you have largely ignored my posts. 

Perhaps what you have done in taking the jab makes this stuff scary. I am sorry about that but under no circumstances will I stop posting the truth. 

Tell me, when they say some tests positive for Covid or die of Covid how do they know. The PCR tests doesn't differentiate between Covid and Flu and the symptoms are basically the same. 

If you can't answer that best you zip it and admit you were conned. 

What a pity you will not take a looked at that clip FOLLOW THE SCIENCE. You have so much to learn. Ignorance is not bliss and in this case might cost you your life. 

I see vaccination deaths are over 12,000. If this represents I%, then total deaths for 12 months could be as high as 1.2 million. Nobody knows. 

What is certain is that it will run into hundreds of thousands. Further, experts say the worst will come in around 2 years onwards. We shall see. 

In the meantime I will oppose these deadly experimental vaxx that killed the animal subjects and are now killing people. 

The blanket demands being made to vaccinate all people regardless gives the game away. 

Then of course the well established principles of the Nuremberg Code of INFORMED CONSENT are being ignored by some taking us all the way back to NAZI Germany. 

HasBeen I respect the sincerity of your beliefs, but I have no more concern that the vaccine is going to kill me, than I worry about the elevator I’m in plunging 20 stories. Is it possible yes…but really not likely.

I am data driven in all this. I posted on this Board way back last year that the death rate of this dirty disease was likely 0.4 % after studying the Diamond Princess. I was closer to the truth than any source I know.

 Now looking at the divergence between case rates and death rates in the UK, I’m very convinced the vaccines provide significant protection. The delta variant is a new factor, so the immunity data for the original virus no longer applies. But there is still protection.

People have to follow their own beliefs on this….but the longer the virus is active, the more likely we will get a really dangerous variant. So I think vaccination is our best option….done quickly and as comprehensively as possible in a free society.

I know people involved in one of vaccines and they would never be foisting a dangerous product on their friends, family and the world in general.

Plum is - He is a real follower.

If Beeno fell off a cliff - Plum would follow but in his case he would jump - A very weak person.

No different to those Germans who followed the Nazi's

Plum a follower…you can’t be serious.

Moz, there is no long term data...that's why I'm very concerned that they are pushing this for kids and young people...we simply don't know yet.

Yes, you got me. I'm just bursting at the seams with blind loyalty.

Can I follow you instead?

The only condition I have in return for my undying loyalty is that you familiarise yourself with the possessive case. Bad ideas, no problem. Bad grammar...that's a deal breaker.

"No different to those Germans who followed the Nazi's"

That’s a fair argument Draad. We are balancing the risk of this virus, which is demonstrable against the risk that the vaccine has some sort of long term negative effect in health. And you are saying in the case of children who don’t have adverse consequences, that balance should be viewed differently.

That’s legitimate….the only issue is kids then become the carriers that enable the continued spread of the disease with the risks of mutations.

But the argument that people are currently dying because of the vaccinations seems like disinformation. These decisions are hard enough…

The virus gets less deadly with the mutations...the curve, for new cases of the South African variant we had in December, looks almost identical to the Delta variant we have ATM, but the fatalities are about a third less...massive progress IMO.