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Trump terminates Canada trade talks over Ronald Reagan ‘fraud’

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Oct 2025, 00:45
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25 Oct 2025, 00:45#1

The president is furious at a multimillion-dollar advert from the premier of Ontario that uses a speech by Reagan to criticise the tariffs policy

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Joshua Thurston

Friday October 24 2025, 10.52am BST, The Times

Mark Carney, the Canadian prime minister, at a Toronto Blue Jays game on Thursday

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President Trump has terminated all trade talks with Canada after accusing a government-sponsored advert of “fraudulently” using a speech by Ronald Reagan to criticise the current administration’s tariffs policy.

Trump took to Truth Social to rail against the advert that featured a voiceover of the former president, which said tariffs “hurt every American”.

“TARIFFS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY, AND ECONOMY, OF THE U.S.A.,” Trump wrote. “Based on their egregious behaviour, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADA ARE HEREBY TERMINATED.”

Carney and Donald Trump met at the White House on October 7

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The video was funded by the government of Ontario in reaction to the Trump administration imposing a 35 per cent tax on many Canadian imports and targeted industries like steel manufacturing with specific duties.

Mark Carney, Canada’s prime minister, has said he was “disappointed” by Trump’s decision to raise the level of tariffs in August. Earlier this month, Carney held talks with the president to try to reach a deal.

Doug Ford, the premier of Ontario, unveiled the one-minute advert last week, saying: “We’ll never stop making the case against American tariffs on Canada.”

The video features an excerpt from a 1987 national radio address by Reagan that focused on foreign trade.

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“When someone says, ‘Let’s impose tariffs on foreign imports,’ it looks like they’re doing the patriotic thing by protecting American products and jobs. And sometimes, for a short while it works, but only for a short time,” the former president said.

“But over the long run, such trade barriers hurt every American, worker and consumer.

He added: “High tariffs inevitably lead to retaliation by foreign countries and the triggering of fierce trade wars … Markets shrink and collapse, businesses and industries shut down and millions of people lose their jobs.”



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The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute has said the advert “misrepresents the presidential radio address”.

It also accused the Ontario government of not seeking permission to use and edit the remarks and added it was “reviewing its legal options”.

“The Ronald Reagan Foundation has just announced that Canada has fraudulently used an advertisement, which is FAKE, featuring Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about tariffs,” Trump wrote on Truth Social, accompanied by an image of the statement.

The quotes in the advert were taken selectively from different parts of the former presidents’ address, but there is no indication that they have been altered.

The video is part of a $75 million Canadian dollar campaign on US television channels.

Ontario, Canada’s most populous province, has been particularly hard-hit by the US tariffs, and Ford has been very vocal in his opposition to the taxes.

In March, he threatened to cut off power supply to three US states: Michigan, New York, and Minnesota, in retaliation for the Trump tariffs.


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Things are going very fast in the US... Faster than expected.


Liberals in Canada should pay full attention to what has happened. Canadians are liberals and can not ignore what it means. The Trump administration has a long record of using intellectual property without any permission, lately, they used the Pokemon intellectual property to promote their anti migrant police.


People in the US live in fear, they have no autonomy. The reagan foundation is revealing. They seem to peddle the idea that they own a public statement made by a public president of a republic and therefore can bar the use of it at will. Liberals seem to struggle with what a republic means, even though liberals in the US kept harping they had a republic.


As to placing the text back in context, it only makes things worse. Reagan advocated for lowering trade barriers.

Ah, the context, just as for the guy who used to sell words for a living and was shot down.


The full text must be replaced in the context it was pronounced, not the few punchlines that were extracted.


The general context was about lowering the trade barriers and this text was actually an apology to explain the tariffs put on Japan. Reagan used the opportunity to re affirm the core of his economical beliefs. The global picture was clearly about lowering trade barriers and Reagan's position can not be summarised to placing tariffs in Japan.


This is another example of liberalised speech. Liberals speak with no constraints. Next, they are going to explain that there had never been slavery in the US since 10 per cent or less of the blacks were freed. Or try to redefine the slave status as they tried to do in the school books, with an involuntary worker or something, dismissing by the way, that slaves were first and foremost capital.


The Trump administration policy makes tariffs a norm, even countries that has a trade deficit with the US are stricken with a base tariff of ten per cent.


Liberals are exposed more than ever, they have kept claiming that they owe their success to supposed liberal principles and values and nowadays they are showing they have no attachment to the said principles. On the other hand, they focus on other things based on coercion which have always existed since their inception. The US have been running a business of farming the poor and extorting the weak since 1776.


Remember peeps when liberals used to propagate the thing that a good government is a government that fears its people.


US people are in fear, they are afraid of their government. They have no autonomy. The Reagan foundation is afraid, they can not even stand for Reagan's legacy and wants to censor people who quote from a public speech given by Reagan as a public servant. They do not own the speech, at least in a republic. All this because it angered the Trump administration and the foundation lives in fear of their own government, they are afraid of replication.

Friends, the Sleeping Giant is Roaring

Robert Reich

Oct 22, 2025


Friends,

On Saturday, 7 to 8 million of us took to the streets to demonstrate against Trump.

That’s not all.

Every major media outlet — including Fox News — has refused to sign Pete Hegseth’s unconstitutional demand that they report only what the Defense Department wants them to report or lose their press credentials. They’ve all turned in their press credentials, which means no one is turning up for Hegseth’s press briefings.

What’s the sound of a press briefing without the press?

Seven of the nine universities Trump “invited” to join his university compact — in which they give up academic freedom for a priority place in government funding — have said, essentially, f*ck no.

Disney was forced into reinstating Jimmy Kimmel after consumers threatened to boycott a wide range of Disney products. According to Strength in Numbers, the Disney boycott quickly became four times as large as any boycott over the last five years.

The great sleeping giant of America is awakening.

I’m old enough to have witnessed the sleeping giant awaken several times before.

Joe McCarthy’s communist witch hunt destroyed countless careers before the giant roared: “Have you no sense of decency?”

McCarthy melted almost as quickly as the Wicked Witch of the West. His national popularity evaporated. Three years later, censored by his Senate colleagues, ostracized by his party, and ignored by the press, McCarthy drank himself to death, a broken man at the age of 48.

The giant roared again a decade later, after television showed civil rights marchers getting clobbered by white supremacists. Congress passed the Civil Rights Act.

It roared again after tens of thousands of young Americans were killed in the jungles of Vietnam, finally bringing to an end one of the nation’s costliest, deadliest, and stupidest wars.

It roared again at Richard Nixon after Nixon was heard on tape plotting the cover-up of Watergate — then was forced to exit the White House by helicopter on his way back to California.

It is starting to roar now — at the sociopathic occupant of the Oval Office who won’t tolerate criticism, who has revealed his utter contempt for the freedom of Americans to criticize him, to write or speak negatively about him, even to joke about him.

I’ve seen a lot. I know the signs. The sleeping giant always remains asleep until some venality becomes so noxious, some action so disrespectful of the common good, some brutality so noisy, that he has no choice but to awaken.

And when he does, the good sense of the American people causes him to put an end to whatever it was that awakened him.

suckitup:)

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Oct 2025, 05:30
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27 Oct 2025, 05:30#11

The Porker has cut himself a hefty slice of a pie, $230M.......hand delivered to his desk by his Bimbo, Pam Bondi. King Donald J Trump can sue anyone and win now that he has the DOJ and Judges eating out of his hand.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
27 Oct 2025, 13:40
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27 Oct 2025, 13:40#12

Replication Trad? Is this some kind of sci fi thing, or did you perhaps mean retribution,


More in a legal meaning of the term.



This of course is all nonsense, very few other countries would tolerate the slander which the current President endures every day. I look at The NY Times on a daily basis and every day you can find up to 10 negative articles on Trump without even scrolling down. Judges negate executive actions, cities flaunt any Federal attempt to limit crime.


Very few countries are being governed as DJT is governing the US. DJT operates without constraints or semblance at least which allows him to cross lines that could not be crossed in other countries.

Liberals fear empty space as it could be filled by something else than propaganda. The free press is actively supporting DJT. It is part of DJT's strategy to flood the public space with garbage statements so the free press is providing with bones to gnaw at. The free press is mostly reactive and contented with picking on one of the daily fifteen antics Trump produces every day. There is no structured campaign against DJT, one that would operate independently from Trump's daily productions.

Trump's hardcore supporters are used to saying that Trump says a lot of things and one must screen them out. It is all part of the plan. The free press does not oppose Trump and provides him with a powerful echo chamber to distract from core and deep courses of action.


Far from a police state, it has so many checks and balances it’s almost not governable, witness the current government shut down.


It is an interesting point. Liberals usually rely on an incomplete status to claim things do not happen. Obviously, Trump does not expect every single of his actions to go unchecked. It is the same process as saturating a defensive missile dome with too many missiles at the same time. Some are blocked but others go through. In case of the US, the rate of interception is low. Certain actions are blocked but many are slipping through.


Liberal tenets are failing in the US.




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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
27 Oct 2025, 13:50
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27 Oct 2025, 13:50#13

The article provides a framework which is unusual from liberals. It means that sooner or later, the speculation will be infirmed or confirmed.


That being stated, it reads like liberal delusion. Times have changed since Nixon. The landscape is very much changed. Nixon was kicked out by republicans themselves.


Today, the collapse in the US has happened quickly: the legislature did not fight for its autonomy and is aligned with the executive, the judicial is experiencing once again that a legal consensus is very different from a popular consensus and that in the US, it is far easier to send a black man behind bars than prosecuting WeThePeople. And more than anything, people in the US are scared. Funnily enough, it appears that Hobbes' leviathan vision has come true in the US. People have no autonomy and are fully dependent on the State. They fear the State and must be protected from it and the most convenient way to achieve this is by controlling the State. It is the same pattern as gangs and when people are claimed by gangs. Joining a gang is protection from the gang. People staying outside of the gang are endangered. It is one of the many reasons the democratic party struggles and will keep struggling so much.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Oct 2025, 05:21
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28 Oct 2025, 05:21#14

America has become an authoritarian shithole.


Well that's putting it bluntly hahahahaha


Just not sure if it's King or Emperor Donald J. Trump.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Oct 2025, 16:38
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31 Oct 2025, 16:38#15

Trad I have to say while I don’t agree with you, your arguments are always interesting unlike the childish taunts others deal out in search of Trump brownie points.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Oct 2025, 20:36
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31 Oct 2025, 20:36#16

America has become an authoritarian shithole. Billionaires now own American Democracy.


Because you know nothing about what really happened Soros wrtoe out policies the Government had to apply coverin g the Open Border Policy and Law and Order provcesses - so the ustice and Homeland Security Department deteriorated into a farce, Soros's sonm vosoted te WH mont hly and the cabinet Minmisters had to report to him on implmentaion of Soros policy.


Soros furth er fubndedt he riots in 2020 and he Hamas ruits last year i now beeing investigated by the F BI and the Treasury. Amongst the Aid funding it came out that USAID provided $67 million to Soros for funding of "training programs for "training of judicial officials employed by Government. What it wa used for is funding of riots and for eelction funding of idiots prepare to not prosecute people for most crimes and release and never charge even murderers and for attacks on the Police, Those accused or murdering 46 people were released from prion and never charged.


As to Agriculture, Global Warming and Health the policies were compiled by Gates and the C abinet ministers concerned reported on a fortnightly basis to him and get new instructiona from him.


Aside from that the FBI, CIA and internet platforms to censor nrews thatn would be detimentsal to the Regime and the FBI spied ilelgally on 1,3 millon people.


Trump discovered during the perios 2017 to 2020 that the Federal Public Service beame a law without restrictiions. From 2021 94% of the Public Servants never went to their office and claimed that they were working from home. Corruption and maladminsitration was totally out of control. An example relates to the Supreme Court decision on ABORTIONS did not ban abortuions at all - they ruled that due to CORRUPTION in the Public Service as a Health Service to be dealt with by the States to esure laws were passed to ensure thar the widespread corruption is eleeminaated by that means,


In the period 2023 to 2024 the Public Service was expended from employing 1,95 million people to 3,2 million people and they never once did any work - but got paid every month. So how was the work of the Fedeal Service done? Easy they contracted the work out and paid for those contracts as well.


Realizing how corruption and maadminsitration ruined the country and in th e four years the Autopen rued in the country the Federal debt increased by over $10 trillion and the rot had to stop. In the main the fact is that as corrupt as the Public Service was so corrupt were some politicians.


In an effort to returnm to proper mana gement he appointed members of his Cabinet to introduce proeprmanagement systems in a malfunctioning Federal Public Servants. One of his appointees was Musk and when Musk wanted to virtaully dismantle the corrupt Public Service totally there was a fight between Trump and Musk and the latter was not retained, The msot corrupt Publixc Service were the Defense Department and the H Health Department thrivin on the Armaments and Health Industries where total clean-up was needed,


Most of his cabinet appontees were known as top class managers who established top cmpane and ebcame very rich themselves, They are not running the country - neither do they control policies - they ahve been appointed to ensue the Governemnt function on a sound economic basis,


Most of the Cabinet Ministers are not paid salaries and they work daily to clean up the corruption that became prominent since 2008. Somethibng similar is needed in the UK, The shit control the Public Service and totally fucked up when it came to business management and operation. As a life-long public servant myself I realize that a corrupt and ever present maladministration is what ruined the countries worldwide.


There is one thing Tump did that fully support it is the appointement of top class managers to clean up a rank disaster, I sometimes watch Sky Television and the BBC and see how a rapist - an illegal migrant is released from prison = hw the Health Serice is in disaray and how the Public Servants in the UK are as bad as the US public sevice was beforeTrump started cleaning u the snakepit, Whe Starnmer asked him about the ilelgal migrants and get rid of maladminisation his commenat were - "close the UK borders and fire the bastards".





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