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Trump the best President since Lincoln

Started by Beeno118 REPLIES1,076 VIEWS· 25 May 2019, 19:54
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 May 2019, 19:54
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25 May 2019, 19:54#1

Couldn't agree more. No president has faced greater odds and yet keeps winning for the American People. Moving tribute to this great man.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 May 2019, 06:03
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26 May 2019, 06:03#2

The following on Jon Voight:- 

In his early life, his political views aligned with American liberal views and he supported President John F. Kennedy, whose assassination traumatized him.[15] He also worked for George McGovern's voter registrations efforts in the inner cities of Los Angeles.[16] Voight actively protested against the Vietnam War.[17] In the 1970s, he made public appearances alongside Jane Fonda and Leonard Bernstein in support of the leftist Unidad Popular group in Chile.[18]

In a July 28, 2008 op-ed in The Washington Times, he wrote that he regretted his youthful anti-war activism, calling it the result of "Marxist propaganda". He pointed in particular to the massive human rights abuses in Vietnam and Cambodia after the American withdrawal.[17]

In May 2008, Voight paid a solidarity visit to Israel in honor of its 60th birthday. "I'm coming to salute, encourage and strengthen the people of Israel on this joyous 60th birthday", said Voight. "This week is about highlighting Israel as a moral beacon. At a time when its enemies threaten nuclear destruction, Israel heals."[19] On July 28, 2008, he wrote an editorial in The Washington Times critical of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.[17]

Voight endorsed Republican presidential nominees Mitt Romney and Donald Trump in the 2012 and 2016 presidential elections respectively.

I am not sure about the story relating to  the greatest president since Lincoln - I think he comes second after Reagan.   Other than Reagan all US Presidents in the 20th Century were poor.   Roosevelt sold out Eastern Europe to the Russians after World War 2 0 he was therefore a disaster,        




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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 May 2019, 11:13
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26 May 2019, 11:13#3

Ou maAaAikie you should in time recognize as I do that Trump is the greatest President ever. 

There are many bloggers saying this. The very powerful globalist forces are fighting him with all they have. 

They might try and tank the stock market, cause a war or even assassinate him, Millions though are praying for him. If the globalist forces come to power in America again its all over and we will head towards the Satanic globalist one world government.

The people around the world are rising up against their Globalist rulers and are winning. However these people are very powerful and smart. They succeeded in getting people to vote for their own destruction so you cannot underestimate them. They control the schools, academia and the MSM. They are now attempting to control social media. 

On my travels on the internet I see that the aims of these globalists are now widely known and detested. There are still many though who still don't get it. 

The EU election will see a great surge in populist/Nationalist support. The fight to save Europe from open borders, nation destroying globalists begins in earnest.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 May 2019, 13:17
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26 May 2019, 13:17#4

Beenz, I woke up when I realized that if you said anything slightly Christian or conservative, you immediately get branded as a right-wing extremist. Crazy right? All the values we grew up with are suddenly crimes against humanity...and people just don't see it! Once you are woken, you see that it's been happening systematically for decades. How they managed to brainwash almost the whole world is beyond me.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 May 2019, 16:23
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26 May 2019, 16:23#5

Brainwashing is easy,   The big EU leaders supporting the EU all grew up under the NAZI Rule in Germany and learned one thing from the Nazi Propaganda Chief Goebbels.   The norm Goebbells used was that if you repeat a lie frequently enough people will ultimately accept it as the truth.   That really is a very easy thing to do.    

With the improvement in media it was easy for the political and economic elite - buy out ownership of the newspapers, radio and major TV news  channels and use them to manipulate thinking of people.   

The second thing is get professors and lecturers at Universities to produce brainwashed students that will take heir message further.   

One can believe virtually nothing that is written on politics in the media as true,.          

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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
26 May 2019, 18:24
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26 May 2019, 18:24#6
Outside of America, Trump would find his best supporters inside South Africa. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 May 2019, 18:28
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26 May 2019, 18:28#7

Huge mistake SB   -   His main supporters are Brexit in the UK and the National  Rally in France,  as well as the Governing Parties in Italy, Austria, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, Slovakia and Poland.   

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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
26 May 2019, 20:14
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26 May 2019, 20:14#8

These countries wanted to be part of the EU. It was never forced upon them. Your media source is the "far" right-wing tabloids. 

No one minds right wing, central or left. It is the extreme right, or extreme left that is usually controversial. 

Extreme left is burning buildings to the ground, and extreme right is the supreme race Hitler mentality. (Or the Jewish supreme race, AWB etc).


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 May 2019, 21:29
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26 May 2019, 21:29#9
So, SB, where do you rate Trump? Extreme left, left, left of centre, centre, right of centre, right or extreme right?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 May 2019, 21:35
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26 May 2019, 21:35#10

You are talking tripe again.    There were numerous referendums held about the EU  Constitution and lost in Ireland, the Netherlands,  France and  Portugal - where there was a vote against closer integration than existed at the time.    All four referendums lost by the EU were ignored and the constitution changed without approval.   

The classing of people as far-right and Hitler supporters is total BS trying to attack them because of their approach.   Trump is made out to be Hitlerite - but that is BS as well aimed at the stupedo's in society,   Trump's policies is relatively liberal in a lot of ways - but the fact that he does not want the country flooded by illegal migrants does not make him a rightwing extremist.   The main problem is that the Democrats and their masters realize that they are on the losing end and their party may be damaged beyond repair they are screaming like stuck pigs against Trump.    

People who disagree with their owners are  vilified and even called criminals by the media and those stupid enough to believe that should never say they have not been warned about what the new breed of dictators wants for the world.      

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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
26 May 2019, 21:58
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26 May 2019, 21:58#11
@Ceradyne, I would classify Trump as right wing. I don't think he is too extreme.  His brash attitude is probably what antagonizes most people. 
I do have some respect for Trump because he has delivered results - growing the economy. From an economic perspective, I am actually middle to right wing in that I favour capitalism over socialism.
However, there is some luck for a president, if it coincides with global growth- unlike say the 2010 recession. Also, if a political party cuts expenditure on social services it can boost the economy- at least for a while. 
@Cleverike, can you please rewrite that post. I do not understand it. At the very least quote your sources, because they can't be taken as a matter of fact. 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 May 2019, 22:08
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26 May 2019, 22:08#12


“Posted by: sharkbok (9021 posts)

May 26, 2019, 21:58


@Ceradyne, I would classify Trump as right wing. I don't think he is too extreme.  ”


Interesting. Do you think that being right wing is massively wrong then? I mean if you regard that some of “right wing” Trump’s goals, and eventual achievements, we have to admit, was to address prison conditions for blacks in particular. That included a system of assisting, especially black offenders who were released, to readjust and be afforded help to re-enter the job market. Another goal and eventual achievement was to drastically reduce the unemployment figures for blacks and Latinos. 

Trump signs executive order on black colleges


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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
26 May 2019, 22:11
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26 May 2019, 22:11#13

I was not aware of that. 

My comment was that from around the world (and even some Americans) - Trump is perhaps the most disliked person as a US president. 

The biggest non-American fans I have been seen are from South African - or at least the right wingers and beyond

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 May 2019, 23:14
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26 May 2019, 23:14#14

That is exactly the issue, SB. The “average” person around the globe do not know these things. The reason, it does not fit in with the MSM. The average Brit only knows what the BBC, The Daily Mail and The Guardian feeds them. 


Trust me, if you look beyond the MSM, you will be in for a big surprise. A hell of a lot of what Trump has enacted are actually stuff put on the law books by previous administrations. I can show you clips of how the likes of Schumer, Clinton, Obama, etc, propagated exactly, almost word for word, what Trump has said. Only difference is that Trump enacted them and the others’ words were nothing but rhetoric. 

Check this out:



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 May 2019, 12:35
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27 May 2019, 12:35#15

......and then there is, of course, the media.....


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
27 May 2019, 13:19
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27 May 2019, 13:19#16

So in other words, SharkShit is once again "debating" a subject he knows nothing about. He's criticizing a man he knows nothing of.

Is there no end to this idiots ignorance?

Seems not.



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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2019, 14:46
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27 May 2019, 14:46#17

No matter how sharktwit is tutored he just doesn't get it. 

Something is definitely amiss upstairs. Part of the problem must be his blind acceptance of the globalist MSM propaganda. 

There have to be serious concerns as to whether truth and facts matter to him. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 May 2019, 14:56
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27 May 2019, 14:56#18


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
27 May 2019, 16:27
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27 May 2019, 16:27#19

To think that he's legally allowed to bring offspring into the world with the same limited brain capacity.

It's no wonder this world of ours is going to sheeeeaaatt!!

 


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