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Ukraine in a, dire position according to this article.

Started by Beeno16 REPLIES397 VIEWS· 06 Jan 2024, 08:28
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jan 2024, 08:28
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06 Jan 2024, 08:28#1

Russians are advancing. 

Strange how some loons thought Ukraine could best Russia but when you are a weak gullible jellybaby I guess brainwashing is easy. 

 Hahahahahaha. 

Russia just keeps getting stronger.  


Ukraine in a bad way.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
06 Jan 2024, 11:42
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06 Jan 2024, 11:42#2
LOL Beeno accuses others of being brainwashed and then links to the Gateway Pundit a disinformation and conspiracy website founded by a person who's sexuality Beeno considers perverted.

I'm just waiting to read Mike's excuse in about 2 months time. A month back he predicted the Russian's would take Kharkiv and Odessa in 3 months time. Wonder what his excuse will be the frontline remains almost unchanged.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jan 2024, 12:03
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06 Jan 2024, 12:03#3

Stav

The laugh is on you - yoo ared quoting from the Guardian the least factual newspaper in the world and known for BS spreading on an unlimited level.   

The Gateway Pundit gave the opinion  based on the comments of two other commentators - the one a reporter of the  Telegraph - who is monaing about the betrayal of Ukraine by the so-called funders of Ukraine and the other by a military expert in a book he wrote.

Now look at it objectively and Ukraine is indeed in deep shit because of the following ;-

*    The main funder covering the full budget of Ukraine  is the USA.   Biden asked for an initial grant of $26 billion for aid to Ukraine  (the total amount he needs for Ukraine Assistance in 2024 is $86 billion so this is just an ear) - but it is stuck in the House - where the Republicans are refusing to approve anything for Ukraine unless Biden signed into law providing for the closing  of the Mexican border and other points of entry into the USA.   Biden cannot do it - Soros who control Biden when it comes to te Open Border Policy and Law and Order policies will not allow him to yield on the Open Border issuie.    Soros and Gates have enough on Biden's corrupt activities to control him totally..   

*      The EU funding was supposed to be from a loan to be raised by the EU.   There would be two countries objecting to the loaan and that is Hungary and Slovakia.    Now they are trying to find away outside of conditions of their agreement with member counties to try and find a way to raise a loan - but that could spell disaster for the EU as it sets a dangerous precedent  entailing  a breach of membeship agreements, 

*      In the case of Germany they tried to include an amount of 54 million Euro in their budget and it was declared uncosntitutional and a breach of the loan limit of the German Government .   That means any money provided to Ukraine will ah ve to eb from savngs in social sending  by the German Government.     The coalition Government is grosly unpopula and the Government can collapse on those grounds only.   

If the Ukraine Finance Minister is to be believed unless money is provided immediately they would not have money to pay the  soldiers, and public servats and  would not h ave money to pay pensions to the epnsioners.    It must be borne in mind is that the U S Government in total fund the full budget of Ukraine. so there will be a viortual clolapse of t he g overnment if mony is not coming  immediately.    It seems  there is little chance of them getting any funding soon. 

As to the military situation the Ukraine army is in full etreat and they cannot stop advances by the Russian Forces.    If the  soldiers are not paid they are not going  to fight either.   The USA  wanted the war and got it - now they are letting  down their puppet Govrnment in Ukraine.   

    

         

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
06 Jan 2024, 15:03
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06 Jan 2024, 15:03#4

Can find a dozen articles telling you the complete opposite, take them with as much salt as I would believe that article.

Seriously most on here seem to just pick and choose what they want to believe and fuck the facts.

Now don't ask me what's going on there as I have no clue but someone has to be telling the truth the hard part is telling which one.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Jan 2024, 15:05
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06 Jan 2024, 15:05#5
The second anniversary of this war is rapidly approaching. Never has a war’s end been predicted more gleefully and more often. But still they fight  on….noble Ukrainians ( credit Tennyson).
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
06 Jan 2024, 15:27
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06 Jan 2024, 15:27#6

Well one thing has to be said Ukraine has certainly given the ruskies two black eyes and embarrassed the supposidly 2nd strongest army in the world.

Going to take Russia years to live this down even if they eventually win this 5 day war.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
06 Jan 2024, 21:23
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06 Jan 2024, 21:23#7
Can find a dozen articles telling you the complete opposite, take them with as much salt as I would believe that article
Really I doubt I could find one spouting such insane shit in the other direction.
Seriously most on here seem to just pick and choose what they want to believe and fuck the facts.
Yup.
Now don't ask me what's going on there as I have no clue but someone has to be telling the truth the hard part is telling which one.
Why do you find it so difficult. Its pretty clear cut too me.
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