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Ukraine Switch to Offensive Defence: Missile Strikes inside Russia

Started by sharkbok23 REPLIES1,235 VIEWS· 08 Dec 2022, 14:04
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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
08 Dec 2022, 14:04
#1
08 Dec 2022, 14:04#1

It is about time that Ukraine started attacking Russia, instead of just waiting for Russia's potshots. 
Something like 3 different attacks has now been conducted over the last few days, deep within Russian territory. 

Pressure on Putin will continue to increase as Russian military equipment and personnel are destroyed.
Military targets will suffice, but the "innocent" civilians should consider the consequences of What Russia is doing to Ukrainian civilians. 




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Dec 2022, 14:11
#2
08 Dec 2022, 14:11#2

So this time the  missiles did not hit Poland - but Russia.   What strikes were deep in Rusia?   Is this proven to be factual or is it some general BS like the Poland strike by Russian Missiles a few weeks ago.   Putin was in Ukraine this week - why did they not attack him while in Eastern Ukraine?  I do not like unsubstantiated BS on site - you are in expert in dispensing that.      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Dec 2022, 14:11
#3
08 Dec 2022, 14:11#3

Duplication .

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
08 Dec 2022, 16:36
#5
08 Dec 2022, 16:36#5

In the Ukraine?

You mean he drive on to the bridge (probably the Russian end) got out and walked 10 feet then scurried off back to his bunker.

You make it sound like he was on the front line leading his gullible fools in an old fashioned frontal assault. As if the cunt would be willing to make the same sacrifices as his minions.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
08 Dec 2022, 16:38
#6
08 Dec 2022, 16:38#6

And haven't the Russians admitted that 2 of their air bases were attacked (with little damage of course according to Putin)

One if not both are about 150 miles from the front

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Dec 2022, 16:57
#7
08 Dec 2022, 16:57#7

The article quoted said nothing about missile attacks on Russia and refer to some explosions which could have been accidents or sabotage.    The fact is that Russia has suffered serious attacks by Islamic radicals in the past and it may indeed be sabotage by Ukrainian Nazi's from the Asov Battalion.       

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
08 Dec 2022, 17:30
#8
08 Dec 2022, 17:30#8

Yep Russians had 2 accidents on different bases at the same time. Not saying it was missles, could have been drones or a ground attack.

Anyway you look at it Russia suffered attackes on home soil far from the front.

Don't care if it was 3 grannies beating up Russian forces with broomstick, it still harms putins image at home.

So all attacks on Russia must be carried out by Nazis then? You really are a idiot you know that

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
08 Dec 2022, 17:35
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08 Dec 2022, 17:35#9

Sorry I forgot that every Ukrainian is a nazi and wear WW11 German uniforms.

All those videos of the marching of to the front doing the goosestep and the stiff arm salute shouting Heil Hitler should have given me a clue.

You obviously left your brain in the washing machine to long mate, it's full of so many bloody holes now it must look like Swiss cheese

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Dec 2022, 17:35
#10
08 Dec 2022, 17:35#10

I read something somewhere about a drone strike/attack on 2 Russian bombers at a airforce base somewhere in Ruskie...

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
08 Dec 2022, 17:52
#11
08 Dec 2022, 17:52#11

Was it on or two air bases, caught it on the BBC and thought they mentioned 3 explosions on 2 bases.

Or was it just the one base?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Dec 2022, 18:24
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08 Dec 2022, 18:24#12

Don't know, but the Ukrainians don't know how to back down...hitting back hard and never say die...got to respect that...

Pity that it's been allowed to continue so long...so many lives lost.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Dec 2022, 07:28
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09 Dec 2022, 07:28#13

Ask the Biden Administration why they sabotaged peace negotiations even before the start of the Russian invasion?   The answer is simple - bribery and corruption stemming from aid the Ukraine is rife and  has been since 2014 after the coup engineered by the USA in Ukraine.   The fact is now even clearer when it came out that of the $30 billion spent - arms to the tune of only about $9 billion reached Ukraine.   The answer is that Ukraine has been provided with $9 billion in second hand arms collected  from army basis throughout the USA and the world and is replaced by new arms purchases from the Armament Industry.  It is a known fact that new arms prices in the USA are routinely inflated by up to 33% and kickbacks to senior politicians and collaborating  army staff.    When Trump tried to stop the kickback system attached to US Aid to Ukraine by buying arms at a reasonable price in the USA and had it delivered to Ukraine - without providing money to Ukraine, two of the most corrupt US Politicians involved in Ukraine -  Pelosi and Schiff - engineered impeachment charges against him.            

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Dec 2022, 08:12
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09 Dec 2022, 08:12#14

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Dec 2022, 12:38
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09 Dec 2022, 12:38#15

CF

I never said that every Ukrainian is a Nazi - however they have a battalion called Azov which where Nazi insignia and was even banned by the USA in 2015 for terrorist activities in Mariopol.  However, the ban was overcome by the absorbing the Battalion in the Ukraine Army.   They are not even totally Ukrainian - they also have substantial numbers of extremist foreigners being part  of the battalion.    

Some senior officials in the Zelenskyy Government have Nazi ties as well.        

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
09 Dec 2022, 12:41
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09 Dec 2022, 12:41#16

DumbMike, you are the Nazi that supports Putin's invasion. And don't try lie, and say you support Ukraine.

You and the Russian Bot Bride (now missing) have been distributing Putin's anti-Ukraine propaganda onsite- calling Ukrainians Nazis.

All countries have "some" Nazis, but that does not make the whole country Nazi's.

That is like saying that all white South Africans should be slaughtered because of the AWB.
However, the AWB were not invading countries and killing civilians 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Dec 2022, 20:10
#17
09 Dec 2022, 20:10#17

SB 

You must be the top of log and by far the most stupid person in mankind.   What caused at the hospital where you were born?  Why did they throw the baby away and kept the afterbirth.   

Sure I supported anybody who is lied about for the purpose of propaganda influencing idiots like you.    Take for instance the accusation that the USA are involved in running of Bio-labs in Ukraine.  The Biden Administration and the media said no such labs exist.   There were proof of existence of the labs and even the Deputy Secretary of State under oath admitted there were such labs.   I from the outset said that Putin is correct and the USA wrong in that case.      

I opposed the invasion of Ukraine -  but there were factors that could have prevented.   Look no further than the fact that I have against your warmongering always suggest peace negotiations. 

     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Dec 2022, 05:30
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10 Dec 2022, 05:30#18
Clever where the blue blazes do you get that rubbish from….quote your sources. Clearly you don’t have your own operatives gathering information, so you are quoting some lunatic source…..back up your allegations by providing a source.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Dec 2022, 05:40
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10 Dec 2022, 05:40#19

You don't know about the lab s?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2022, 06:02
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10 Dec 2022, 06:02#20

From evidence provided by the Deputy Secretary of State in the Senate.  To a question asked by Senator Rubio, she confirmed there were bio-labs in Ukraine and added that the research was of a harmless nature.   In the very next sentence, she said the US Government was worried about the pathogens falling in Russian hands.    If the pathogens were in fact harmless - why worry about the Russians getting hold of it?    So evidence under oath does not count at all in the USA?

The US Government made the amazing claim that the USA was helping Ukraine in closing down bio-labs constructed by the USSR - amazing since in 30 years no progress was made with closing down, while the USA funded construction of a new bio-lab in Odessa   In the last two weeks there was another problem when Thulsi Gabbard said that the 26 bio-labs in Ukraine and those need immediate closure.   She was accused by especially Senator Romney of being a traitor endangering the lives of people by supporting Russian. disinformation.     

The problem is further that Ukraine is effectively a bankrupt state living off US largesse.   Where would they get funds to operate bio-labs.   The US Aid funds are used to finance the operation of the bio-labs.

By the way - you will go bananas -  but there is an opinion that Ukraine is effectively a "colony" of the USA used by the Biden Regime to wage a proxy war against Russia.   After the 2014 coup the US even decided who should be the Interim President and subsequent who would be  supported to be elected President in 2015.    Trump did not interfere with the leadership election and the total corruption ruining Ukraine caused the selection of Zelenskyy in 2019.   The 2015 elected President was corrupt - Zelenskyy is worse.    In the USA corrupt foreign politicians have the advantage that they can be used for kickback operations - Ukraine is s prime example of that.    

Apology is called for - but I do not expect anything at all from you.                          

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Dec 2022, 16:12
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10 Dec 2022, 16:12#21

Cut and paste from named sources……I have heard about the labs, what I want is verification of your details from named sources. But more importantly I want verification of the defense contract inflation to support corruption. Not your words,  a report from a named source.

Please spare me any long rambling justification….just cut and paste from a credible source.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
10 Dec 2022, 21:41
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10 Dec 2022, 21:41#22

In fact, DumbMike: Anytime you speak tripe (99% of the time), you need to post your sources. 
Just because you think 4Chan and Russian Times are credible sources, that does not mean others do.

Plus, some of the stuff you are just making up yourself, you have no sources. You just pull it from your arse with another Clicks device and recycle it from post to post 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2022, 21:42
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10 Dec 2022, 21:42#23

Mozart

You have heard about the labs - what the evidence did not say is who is funding and controlling the research done there?   Do you really think the corrupt Ukraine has funds to operate the 26 existing labs?   One of the labs constructed in Odessa in 2018 was funderd in total by the USA and the funding was included in the Defense Aid provided by the USA to Ukraine.   I saw what was proved by documents published by Jimmy Dore - a liberal who hates corruption as much as I do.   

The story of corrupt contracts of the Defense Department came out when Trump was President and wanted to buy new planes for the US Air Force and called for quotes for providing the planes.   He reduced the quoted price by 33% and told the manufacturers directly that he would pay nothing more.   They then accepted the offer and delivery of the planes started.   That was just one example of over-pricing by the USA Arms Industry - every tender the Defense Department allocated has over-prizing to its core.

I have also dealt with State contracts for many years - most contracts were over-prized and I often said ether you provide a realistic tender the tender will NOT be awarded.   You will be surprised  how many tenders are actually overprized.   It happens in all countries in the world  and in the USA the situation under the present Government is totally corrupt.   I want to ask you a simple question - the Biden Administration passed an infrastructure budget - reduced after it was found to be unrealistic.   How many approved projects have commenced  and how many have been in accordance with the determined prices?   There is no info in the media about these projects?    

Anyway the new House will demand an audit of the USA iro replacement of the arms provided to Ukraine.    Even some Democrat House Members support that approach.               


          

      

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Dec 2022, 16:56
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11 Dec 2022, 16:56#24

So here’s the truth. Trump did apply a businesss man’s sense of negotiations. But it had nothing to do with corruption payments and was way smaller than 33%. Stop talking rubbish Clever, it’s irresponsible:

This from Yahoo Finance:

‘ The president acknowledged that the savings applies only to the latest batch of 90 of the stealth jet fighters, out of close to 3,000 planes called for in the overall program. He said that the savings stemmed from high-level talks that Trump instigated with Lockheed Martin beginning in early January, after he complained that spending for the aircraft was “out of control.”

Trump summoned Marillyn Hewson, Lockheed’s CEO, to his Florida estate on Dec. 21 for a meeting that included the military head of the F-35 program. Trump and Hewson met again in January, this time at Trump Tower in New York.

Related: The Pentagon Is Planning a New Super Rival to the Troubled F-35

At that second session, Hewson signaled to the president-elect that Lockheed intended to trim the price of the next batch of 90 F-35 jets. Lockheed expected the cost of the latest batch of planes to fall by 6 percent to 7 percent, compared to the previous batch.


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