Ignorant oaks would do well to acquaint themselves with the work of Seymour Hersh a famous Investigative Reporter. Here he is being interviewed about his famous piece on the blowing up of the pipeline by the illigitimate Biden Regime
US blew up Nordsteam pipeline
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/22/asia/us-navy-chief-china-pla-advantages-intl-hnk-ml/index.html
The USA cannot compete anymore with China and Russia as the above link explains. The Chinese labor market gets things done, right around the world.
All the US can do is demolish, as with Nord.
Under installed Globalist rule the USA has become as big a menace to the world as China.
The World needs a Patriot like Trump back in office fast.
An anti West alliance involving some 70 percent of the words population is rising thanks to Benedict Biden's and his handlers action.
Always remember the destruction of the nation states of the West with their pernicious ideas of democracy, free speech, law and order etc is a must for the Globalists and their World Government agenda. As Soros said - Western Civilization mu st be destroyed before the NWO can be implemented.
The question I wonder about is China. Loved by Klaus Schwab who praises their model of governance and built up by the USA where do they really stand. Are they really in alliance with Russia. I don't know the answer to this. Time will tell. On the face of it Russia and China are moving closer together.. Many countries want to join BRICS. Countries have joined SCO. A new international currency is being created. Chucking Russia off SWIFT was a disastrous move and all thanks to the illigitimate Biden Regime.
The fact is when the leftist media comes up with something - acting on instruction from the White House - the lies follow thick and fast. Idiots like SB and Rooinek believe the BS story that Putin had the pipeline blown up and that is what the media spouted. They have yet to learn something basic in the World - never to believe what is in the leftist media. They have learned nothing from the lies spread by the Obama WH; the Democrats and Clinton about collusion between Putin and Trump. The media spread the lies and the site idiots fall for the BS all the time.
Moonrover
The USA is self-destructing as a world power, In the first instance the US soldiers used to come from middle and lower income groups - now the emphasis is on women and homosexual recruitment imvoked by the Woke Culture training program. Another problem relates to the COVID program where action was taken against circa 60 000 soldiers refusing vaccination. Recruiting has been reduced by at least 25% on what it used to be.
If anybody thinks the new recruits will fight against anybody he or she must live on Cloud 9. So what will happen if China attacks their two most immediate objectives - namely Taiwan and South Korea, Biden will not be allowed to do anything about it - his ultra-rich puppet masters - acting together with their ally President Xi of China - will ensure no action is taken against China.
So much dense stupidity in one thread it has its own gravitational pull. I think this might be what scientists refer to as a singularity.
Interesting Mike concerning the pool of recruits for US army.
The best pool of fighters will always be the rural farming type. Their survival, space awareness, toughness will clean up the city kids any day.
Having said that, raw power in rugby has stemmed from this pool in Bok rugby in years past.
Stav
I give actual examples of what is really going on in the USA and you call is stupidity. Let me explain - the policies of the USA implemented by Biden - such as the green energy policy and the open border policy - was written out for Biden by Gates and Soros respectively, There is written proof of that. The two regularly summon the respective cabinet members to meet with them on the issue at stake. Implementation is what is in fact the case is denied in the media by the White House - according to the lying media the border is not open - but then since Biden took over the number of contacted individuals were over 3 000 000 individuals who entered illegally - the potential number is near to 7 million. The drug cartels control the border and drugs are streaming in unabated.
As to the green energy crazy bans like gas stoves is in line for implementation and the Biden Administration threaten to close down 580 gas and coal power stations providing at least 80% of electricity used in the USA with trillions in line for spending on sun and wind electricity. In the USA that means billions in backhanders to politicians. We have seen how the Ukraine War funding is being handled - the same will apply to Green energy installations. Watch out for Gates branching out to the green electricity program after he near to control the vaccinating policy already.
You are an idiot to believe what the media feed you on a daily basis. We can call your craziness the real problem of brainwashed idiocy,
Duplication
Someone blew up this pipeline, but at this stage, there is not enough evidence to be sure who it was.
The US had a motive, but so did Russia - and perhaps even Ukraine, or other EU countries.
Stav
You actually describe your problem 100% in the above. Reality will hit you in the face and your brainwashed dreams will continue.
SB
A while ago there was a video made that showed US Helicopters hovering over the site when the explosion of the pipeline happened. The helicopters came from a temporary base in Gdansk. The fact is the Biden Administration - the most corrupt on in the history of the USA - is up to their neck involved in the Ukraine War - the profits to the corrupt politicians in both Parties are massive. Try FTX for luck - $5 billion vanished from sight totally - where did it go? . Why is the leftwing media totally quiet on that issue.
By the way all the modern equipment abandoned by Biden in Afghanistan in a chaotic withdrawal is now used by terrorists the world over and over 30 000 of those terrorists has infiltrated into the USA through Biden's Open Border policy. They are added to the already terrorist subsidiaries of the Democratic Party - BLM and Antifa.
The rest of us have to live in a reality where things need to be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Evidence can be doctored- especially videos and images.
With the current evidence, no court judge could prove who blew up the pipeline beyond any reasonable doubt. That may change in the future as new evidence arrises, but we will have to see (We as in the sane people).
SB
You should apply the real evidence requirement to yourself when it comes to real evidence. You spouted BS based on lies on site about Russian Collusion with Trump - which in fact proved to be based on lies circulated by the Obama Administration, the FBI and CIA to their media supporters. That was over a 5 year period and you still believe the horseshit involved.
Saner people sit down and way up real evidence that is available - that is they are supposed to think for themselves. With what you produce on site does not count as real evidence - it is covered as such by the leftwing media who lied to you - you are too stupid to think for y ourself.
Why would Russia blow it up? It's leverage...much simpler...and cheaper to close a valve.
ButtPlug,
It is not a conspiracy, someone certainly blew it up, we have established that as fact.
As to who blew it up, we don't know.
It is a conspiracy to blame one party without evidence. Ukraine probably had more motive than anyone to blow it up.
While Trump (or in extension America) did not want the 2nd pipeline to go ahead, and Biden may just have continued the same stance and ordered it to be blown up.
If it did turn out that America blew it up, then that would be very determinantal to relations with the EU.
It could have been Greta Thunberg far left- wingers.
Russia, USA, Poland, Ukraine,
It’s seems like most are blaming the US.
Most?
Didn’t Sweden say that their investigations had revealed whom it was but they didn’t want to tell us?
Assume it was Russia, would they not say it was Russia? I guess the only reason they wouldn’t want to do that would be through being intimidated by Russia.
Well two reasons I can think of. It was an allied state and the revelation going would be enormously damaging to relations between those countries if true. Or t hey know it was Russia via evidence presented to them by say an intelligence operation operating in Russia and they can't risk exposing that operation. They can't really say to the public we know it was the Russian's but we can't tell you how we know it was them.
But here’s the thing. Nobody here cares. See, when some on site blame the US, others will say you have no proof and you’re a conspiracy theorist. But that’s where it’ll end.
Its not that we don't care, its just we want to see substantially more evidence than an article that relies entirely on unnamed sources from an investigative journalist with a spotty track record who has a history of making claim's that exclusively rely on unnamed sources
So who do we think it was, and why?
Its very difficult to know because you can think of reasons for both sides too do it and not too do it.
I see ou StavAss doing what he does best making a total ass of himself.
StavAss I hope you have joined the protests going on all around Itsksnd about the illegals invading your wee island. Saw one clip where a migrant was harrasing an Irish lass. An Irish guy step in and gave this thug a severe beating. Somehow I knew that the guy couldn't be StavAss.
Biden said they would end the pipeline and so did Under Se retary of State Nuland (Nuland you recall was a leader in the US Coup to overthrown the Russian aligned President of Ukraine)
If these hopeless clowns could stop WATCHING Globalist propaganda machine CNN they might starting having a clue as to what is going on.
Mike and Plum I have to say I admire your guys patience with these hapless mongs.
I don't seem to see much on the various Twitter file dumps. Do ignorantvhalfbakes like ou sharktwit and Stabass know how collusion between Government Big Tech and Big Pharma happened. It's now proven fact.
US just rolls on.... they have done what they want for centuries.
China and Russia gonna kick their ass.
I have a label for you, ButtPlug . . . it's called "stupid, xenophobic arsehole"
That's all. You're dismissed.
Stav saying he wasn’t gonna waste his time on it. Remember that, Stav?
I do indeed.
ouPlum, you're a pompous, pretentious windgat wannabee.
Threatened again Blob?
Nooit, simply returning serve.
Who could have possibly imagined that the nation most against Nordsteam, who have a history of acts of terrorism against foreign nations, who openly stated they'd stop Nordsteam at any cost and they shall not be stopped would be responsible for this act? Of course, one hears on sources such as the BBC that Russia built the pipeline with a nuclear device to blow it up at a later date. A key bargaining chip at such a critical point in time. And the stupid Germans just plod along with the narrative. Betrayed by their own version of Obiden, the useless Sc holz, and their supposed ally, the USSA. With an ally like the USSA, who the heck needs an enemy?
According to a report in the Guardian western intelligence is pointing to a pro Ukrainian saboteur group behind the bombing of the nordsteam pipelines, albeit they appear to believe the bombing wasn't sanctioned by Kyiv.
Uh -oh!
Slavi Ukrani.
Russia se moer .
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