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US Civil War? - Trump/ Republicans refuse to concede power if they lose the election

Started by sharkbok11 REPLIES670 VIEWS· 24 Sept 2020, 14:13
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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
24 Sept 2020, 14:13
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24 Sept 2020, 14:13#1

America could be heading for a civil war. The differences between the Trumpers and the Democratic majority states is just too much. The ideologies are not compatible.

Trump is talking about staying in office longer than the maximum 8 years, and he hopes his daughter Ivanka will take over from him. The US could have its very own Kim Jong. 

If the US does split into 2 countries, the golden jewel is California. An America without California would be a very different place. Without big tech, the US economy would shrink big time. 

While the Southern states have traditionally been more Republican, other states like the battleground states are split 50/50%. Although even Democratic states have Trumpers.

If the country splits, will all the Trumpers move to Trumperica, with everyone else moving to the new USA? 

Republicans know that the writing is on the wall for their party. They will not even win 25% of the votes in the age group under 35. While some people will get more conservative as they get older, it is not the brand of conservatism offered by Republicans- it is more like European conservatism. 

Republicans know their party is near its end, and they want to hold on to their ideology and way of life. Would the Trumpers be happy to appoint Trump for life- and have a third world political system. 

Marketing data shows the demographics of most Trumpanzees to be:  white below-average intelligence. Trump will shaft most of them if he wins/remains in office- and just focussing on the richest 5% of Americans. Everything will be privatised, and the poor Trumpazee will get poorer. 

Any mention about Democracy seems to make Trumpers think of the Democratic Party. 
Would the Trumpers prefer a dictator, a strong man like in the Middle East? 

Mitch McConnell looks like an Apartheid politician. It is clear that Republican states try to discourage non-"native" white conservatives from voting. America replaced the Red Indians, so birther nationalism can be pretty ironic. 

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
24 Sept 2020, 14:43
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24 Sept 2020, 14:43#2

I've seen some commentators say Biden will have to win by a big margin to avoid Trump claiming fraud. If he wins by a narrow margin Trump will claim mail in ballet fraud and won't go, and it will end up in the courts. If its a narrow margin, the republican party might go along with him, but would feel uncomfortable doing so if it was a more substantial margin.

Trump also could be bluffing though and may go peaceful if he does lose.

I don't see a civil war regardless of the outcome, that's just media hyperbole.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2020, 15:13
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24 Sept 2020, 15:13#3

SB

You really find all kinds of things Trump never sai d and make it out t be that he said that   What should actually happen is that the Democrats should get rid of their leftists and communists and move to the center to ever become acceptable to voters.  

California is sick and people are moving out of the State in their tens of thousands - especially the middle class and factory and business owners,   The State are rated as the worst state in the USA  to live in and is becoming a Third World State with only the extreme rich and extreme poor making up the population.   

I have heard that about the Republicans from you for years and the result will definitely favor them as the Democrats have moved too far to the left and  their campaign to defund the police and the advancement of local terrorism  in the states and cities they control is totally unacceptable to the majority of people bar the brainwashed juveniles you admire so much.

The voters know Biden is a weak candidate - due to age also weak in the head - and is as corrupt as hell and a front for the real leadership of the Democrats and will be a useful puppet for them.   Harris is their choice, but they would never get the support of the voters for her - so they want Biden as candidate as a puppet and will get rid of him within a year after the election.

             

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Sept 2020, 16:04
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24 Sept 2020, 16:04#4

And ’go peaceful if he does lose’...  ...hopefully if you commies win the election you will have enough funds for a decent education,

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
24 Sept 2020, 16:20
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24 Sept 2020, 16:20#5


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Sept 2020, 16:37
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24 Sept 2020, 16:37#6

Quite a funny image Shark.

But Harris is nobody’s choice....she was the only viable black woman candidate....a box Biden jumped into so the Black voters could give him the win over Bernie.

A Biden victory would mean an anonymous hidden committee is running the country.

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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
24 Sept 2020, 23:12
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24 Sept 2020, 23:12#7
I would rather have a committee than an individual making decisions live on Twitter at 1 am in the morning. A single point of failure. Rather have team discussions, and then issue formal Whitehouse statements that are well thought out and refined, instead of someone declaring War on Iran on Twitter. 

A president is different from a CEO. Most companies have some degree of specialisation.
A president has to manage so many activities across the spectrum- they have no clue about, so each decision needs to factor in specialist experts in the respective field.People management is crucial, and the authoritarian managerial style will not cut it in Democracies. 
I am not sure about Harris. I need to see more of her. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2020, 03:32
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25 Sept 2020, 03:32#8

Completely disagree Presidents are not successful because of ‘expert guidance’....but some are unsuccessful because of expert guidance, like Bush too junior.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Sept 2020, 05:58
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25 Sept 2020, 05:58#9

"A Biden victory would mean an anonymous hidden committee is running the country."

It's called a p olitburo.


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
25 Sept 2020, 15:20
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25 Sept 2020, 15:20#10


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sharkbokCaptain23,203 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:34
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08 Aug 2021, 13:34#11

So here we are after the election, and Trump is still trying to end Democracy..

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:46
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08 Aug 2021, 13:46#12

SB

How is eh trying to do that?    The end of  Demcoracy is in sight when Biden overruled a ruling by the Supreme Court - which represents an attack on the US Constitution.   So try again and gve aus reasons for your statement.  .       

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