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US grants asylum to 54 white Afrikaner South Africans

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
11 May 2025, 23:59
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11 May 2025, 23:59#1
US grants asylum to 54 white Afrikaner South Africans, reports say

Donald Trump has directed officials to grant refugee status to Afrikaners who he claims suffer discrimination


Rachel Savage in Johannesburg

Fri 9 May 2025 14.20 BST



The US has granted refugee status to 54 white Afrikaner South Africans, who could arrive as soon as Monday in Washington DC, where they will be welcomed by government officials, according to media reports.

Donald Trump suspended the US refugee settlement programme in January on his first day in office, leaving more than 100,000 people approved for resettlement stranded, having fled war and persecution in countries such as the Democratic Republic of Congo and Afghanistan.


In February, Trump signed an executive order directing his government to grant refugee status to Afrikaners, descendants of Dutch and French colonisers who he claimed were discriminated against.

On Thursday, US officials were trying to arrange a charter flight to land at Dulles international airport, with commercial flights being assessed as an alternative, NPR reported, citing unnamed sources.

The white Afrikaners lining up to accept Trump’s offer of asylum


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The 54 Afrikaners would be met at the airport by “high level officials from the Departments of State and Homeland Security”, with a press conference being planned, NPR said, citing a source who said such a welcome was unusual.

Some officials told the New York Times that the arrival date was not yet confirmed, with plans in flux.

A US state department spokesperson did not confirm the flight plans, saying: “The US embassy in Pretoria has been conducting interviews and processing … While we are unable to comment on individual cases, the Department of State is prioritising consideration for US refugee resettlement of Afrikaners in South Africa who are victims of unjust racial discrimination.”

Demonstrators outside the US embassy in Pretoria, South Africa, in February. Photograph: Siphiwe Sibeko/Reuters

South Africa’s foreign ministry said in a statement: “It is most regrettable that it appears that the resettlement of South Africans to the United States under the guise of being ‘refugees’ is entirely politically motivated and designed to question South Africa’s constitutional democracy; a country which has in fact suffered true persecution under apartheid rule and has worked tirelessly to prevent such levels of discrimination from ever occurring again.”

The speed at which the new refugee programme was set up and refugee status granted was faster than normal, a source told NPR. Before the first Trump administration, it took an average of 18 to 24 months for a refugee to be resettled in the US, according to the American Immigration Council, an NGO supporting immigrants.

NPR listed 12 states that had agreed to take in the Afrikaners, some of whom have family in the US, including California, West Virginia and New York, NPR said.

The Department of Health and Human Services will help the South Africans with “housing … basic home furnishings, essential household items … groceries, weather-appropriate clothing, diapers, formula, hygiene products and prepaid phones,” according to a memo seen by the New York Times.

South Africa was ruled by white Afrikaner leaders during apartheid, which violently repressed the country’s black majority.

More than three decades after white minority rule ended, South Africa remains hugely unequal. White people typically have 20 times the wealth of black people, according to an article in the Review of Political Economy. The black South African unemployment rate is 46.1%, compared with 9.2% for white people.

According to the 2022 census, white people made up 7% of the 63 million population, about half of them Afrikaners, while black South Africans accounted for 81%.

Affirmative action policies since apartheid’s end have helped to create a black elite and middle class. However, most black South Africans remain poor.

The policies, along with high crime rates that affect all South Africans, have also nurtured a feeling among some white South Africans that they are now the victims of targeted racism.

More than half of white South Africans think “black economic empowerment” policies should end, compared with a third of black South Africans, according to a survey by Ipsos and the local news outlet News24.

Trump, along with his South Africa-born billionaire adviser Elon Musk and the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, have repeated the allegations that white South Africans are being discriminated against.

Trump’s February executive order referred to “hateful rhetoric and government actions fuelling disproportionate violence against racially disfavoured landowners”.

In 2018, during his first presidency, Trump also magnified the unsupported claim, popular globally with the far right, that white farmers in South Africa are being murdered at disproportionately high rates.

US refugee officials were directed to focus on screening white Afrikaner farmers from among the more than 8,000 asylum claims, the New York Times reported.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 May 2025, 07:48
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12 May 2025, 07:48#2

Your opinion on this?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 May 2025, 10:08
#4
12 May 2025, 10:08#4

"South Africa’s foreign ministry said in a statement: “It is most regrettable that it appears that the resettlement of South Africans to the United States under the guise of being ‘refugees’ is entirely politically motivated and designed to question South Africa’s constitutional democracy; a country which has in fact suffered true persecution under apartheid rule and has worked tirelessly to prevent such levels of discrimination from ever occurring again.”


Yet they still implement race classifications and laws...more than during Apartheid...more than 140.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 May 2025, 11:23
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12 May 2025, 11:23#5

Draad


Discrimination against Whte South Africans is wide and took place in qualified White South Africans not be appointed and lesser qualfied Blacks be appointed, Other than that but not to the sme extent in the Western Cape Province it remains dangerous to stay on farms where percentage wise murder of farmers and their family is way he above the percenage based on crime statistics,


Under the circumsatnces young Whites have a limited future in SA and that is fairly common. Even people with University degees cannot find work in many aspects of the SA Commnity, In many ways the same applies to Coloureds livig outside of the Western Province.


For years now younger White South Africans have moved to foreign countries where they get treated not on the basis of race but based on qualifications. I know there are many oung Whites emplaoyed as laborers on fams in the USA - where they became known as hard and reliable workers and if they have an agricultural background they often became farm managers of large scale farmers,


If I as in my 20's I would be the first guy in the line to get refugee status from the USA. in a country where its currncy value has dwindled to drive people into poverty.


I bet that ex-South Africans active on this site will cry foul in this case - so I d think they would attack Afrikaans speaking people finding a way out of a country in serious decline.




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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 May 2025, 14:37
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12 May 2025, 14:37#6

"South Africa’s foreign ministry said in a statement: “It is most regrettable that it appears that the resettlement of South Africans to the United States under the guise of being ‘refugees’ is entirely politically motivated and designed to question South Africa’s constitutional democracy; a country which has in fact suffered true persecution under apartheid rule and has worked tirelessly to prevent such levels of discrimination from ever occurring again.”


Yet they still implement race classifications and laws...more than during Apartheid...more than 140.



This government is so full of shit. Look at the opulence of the rulers and then go into townships and look at people living in shacks with raw sewage running in the streets, no running water and no flush toilets 30 years into this new democracy if you want to see persecution.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 May 2025, 16:22
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12 May 2025, 16:22#7

Not many years ago their was an opinion poll done amongst the the older Blacks who grew up and worked before 1994 and to the horror the majrity said they were better of financially under the Nats than they are under the ANC. The ANC is similar to the Democratic Party in the USA in a mad race to make sure they self-destruct during the next election/


That is not unique though - the German elite political parties are on the race to the same goal - the Labor Party will do the same and will join te C0nxervtive Party in that race, Any country in Europe can be named but the establishment Pawties are in deep shit all over Europe, ,

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 May 2025, 17:28
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12 May 2025, 17:28#8

Just addressed by Trump in a press conference….he pulled no punches, but said a South African delegation is coming to see him later in the week.


This whole thing will descend into a typical muddle. I already see statements denying there is unusual loss of life among farmers…..and they will do background checks on any refugees ‘proving’ they are all racists.


If there had been a better negotiator involved some refugee protection could probably have been built into the original agreement to end Apartheid….hard to know why Trump is doing this, but he is on the case. He said to the collected press that they would never write about any abuses….but if it was white on black it would be front page.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2025, 07:46
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13 May 2025, 07:46#9

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 May 2025, 09:26
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13 May 2025, 09:26#10

Most people who apply for refugee staatus were born after 1994 under the ANC Gvernment, hey had nohing to do with what their parents and frandparents may have done against oher races and went hrough schools and unovesities where racism was not practiced at all.


In South Africa the situation really is that the Western Cape Provnce are governed by Colored and White people and the envy of people of all races as being he best-governed Province in SA, My smpathy is wih the Colored and Indians in SA who basicaly suffer the same fate as young White South Africans. Some Blacks wwill also trya nd get out of SA - especially of those borne after 1994 and have gone through schools and Unovrsities and now find them in the same oppressed people category,


There is another problem - in 1994 there were 8 million illegal migrants from African countries - at present there are 18 million such refugees and they are hated by the locals whose jobs they have taken over, So attacks on the migrants are frequet and etting worse - especially in the cities, I have spoken to a Nigerian who owns three stores in Riversdale and he claimed it is the best place he ever lived in because there iis no hatred and little crime amd corruption invovled.


There was a poll about 8 years ago in which older Blacks claimed they were better off before 1994 than they are at present and also many educated Blacks who claim that the present Government in SA represents corrupt shit, It all ends up with a very unhappy SA population that is not good for the ANC themselves and leads to instability in the country as a whole,


In the end tribalism and hatred will destroy the country and the future of the country s uncertain with breaking up of the country being inevitable and there really would be havoc and inevitable civil wars in a country deservig better,


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2025, 09:39
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13 May 2025, 09:39#11

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2025, 09:40
#12
13 May 2025, 09:40#12

Kruitvat...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 May 2025, 13:01
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13 May 2025, 13:01#13

The question is of course - how many young English-speakers are going to use the same route to get out out of SA? .So the headline would be hardly accurate


If the Blacks attack the people of the Western and Northern Cape and part of he Eastern Cape while the present USA Reublican Government is still in power, the USA would do what they can to protect the Cape sea route around SA as the Seuz canal is too vunerable as it is at present and had been in the past. The areas mentioned may well be declared he 51st State of he USA, LOL . .

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 May 2025, 21:14
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13 May 2025, 21:14#14

Crickets

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CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2025, 14:59
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14 May 2025, 14:59#15

Draad


Please watch he following video as well:-


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2w-I_IdTa8

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2025, 15:22
#16
14 May 2025, 15:22#16

Thanks Maaik

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DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2025, 15:52
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14 May 2025, 15:52#17

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 May 2025, 19:28
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14 May 2025, 19:28#18

Herzov lived in SA and then left the country to stay in the USA where he was invovled in economic invvestments, Mozart may have met him during his long stay in the USA, I saw somewhwere because the Biden regime was set on destroying the USA economy, When he returned to SA he was shockd at what he found as to massive declines in the RSA,


I think he is assocated with Trump and what he said has an impact on Trump and Rubio he like Soong is not like what happened to the country, Musk, Soong and Hersov all grew up in SA and finished their Secondary Education in SA - bt soong and Hersov went further and got their degrees in SA - but Musk got his degee at Penn State afer initialy study in Canada, So now with the three disppointed about what happene in SA could have dire consequences for the ANC and EFF. They already are on deep shit with the current US Aministration and it is not getting better. ,

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 May 2025, 20:34
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14 May 2025, 20:34#19

He was Rupert Murdoch's personal assistant/ protege many moons ago...amongst other things

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 May 2025, 09:47
#20
15 May 2025, 09:47#20

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Black & Red Club Pro255 posts
15 May 2025, 22:41
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15 May 2025, 22:41#21

South Africa’s foreign ministry said in a statement: “It is most regrettable that it appears that the resettlement of South Africans to the United States under the guise of being ‘refugees’ is entirely politically motivated and designed to question South Africa’s constitutional democracy; a country which has in fact suffered true persecution under apartheid rule and has worked tirelessly to prevent such levels of discrimination from ever occurring again.”


YES RIGHT - FOR FUCK SAKE.............

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 May 2025, 09:07
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16 May 2025, 09:07#22

142 race laws in a country with a history of racial discrimination is absolutely not acceptable. The colour of your skin should have absolutely nothing to do with your your relationship with the government. BBEEE is an abomination, it's revenge for Apartheid and a guise for corruption...it is not affirmative action...it is persecution.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 10:19
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16 May 2025, 10:19#23

It's easy to understand.


The locals in SA are basically toddlers that have been allowed to get away with nonsense for too long.


Now that they are being called out on it, they have literally no frame of reference, and no ability to look in the mirror.


Think of the first time a toddler gets a whack for something...he's totally clueless and shocked, and immediately commences a screaming fit for of note. That's the current ANC.


These are the lowlife, low IQ, criminals that want to preach morality to the world.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 11:14
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16 May 2025, 11:14#24

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 May 2025, 11:27
#25
16 May 2025, 11:27#25

Oh Dear, our resident World Authority has well and truly lost it.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 May 2025, 11:29
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16 May 2025, 11:29#26

In a flash he removes his rugby post from the Trumpet section....too late Buttie I've seen it.

Bwhahahahahaha

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
16 May 2025, 13:09
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16 May 2025, 13:09#27

What's political about this is the uproar. It's 50 people. They want a better life, a better future, as we all do. They took action, grabbed an opportunity. Now everyone is acting as if these are the first South Africans to leave the country, while the exodus already counts up to half a million since 2000.


The focus should be on "why"? Why are South Africans abandoning the country? And why is our President not lamenting the exodus of his people, calling them cowards instead?

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 13:30
#28
16 May 2025, 13:30#28

Oh yes Denise...


I had multiple threads open so posted in the wrong thread...


Surely this means you win something?


Geez, you are one desperate twat

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 May 2025, 15:13
#29
16 May 2025, 15:13#29

"The focus should be on "why"? Why are South Africans abandoning the country? And why is our President not lamenting the exodus of his people, calling them cowards instead?"


And he labels them cowards because they don't want to stay and endure the constant abuse...Cyril is the worst president this coutry ever had...worse than Zuma and worse than PW...despicable coward.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 May 2025, 19:38
#30
16 May 2025, 19:38#30

Well, Ramadoosie is under massive pressure now.


Trump won't go on for any of his woke commie shit when they meet.


My gut feel tells me he's just gonna piss Trump off. I really hope there is something similar to the Zelensky meeting where Trump and Vance grill him in front of the cameras.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 May 2025, 21:50
#31
16 May 2025, 21:50#31

Would love to watch it live, but I'm gonna be busy Wednesday ...will definitely watch the reruns...can't wait.

... Trump's gonna squeeze his balls....

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
16 May 2025, 22:05
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16 May 2025, 22:05#32

Sad situation for RSA unfortunately.

But to be honest this is no different to what the Nationalists did to the country.

The only politician who I can recall who had the message to unit the country and assist all of the South Africans irrespective of color was the Afrikaans leader of the Progressive Party Dr Slabbert who unfortunately never could get enough voters to support his policies for all South Africans irrespective of color or creed.

Sadly this is nothing but reverse Apartheid and it is cruel and unjust to all South Africans irrespective of color.


Cry the beloved country of my birth and bless all who are suffering through this nightmare.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 May 2025, 05:45
#33
17 May 2025, 05:45#33

The Nats did some evil things, but they did not plunder everything into oblivion...just compare the assets of PW and FW vs Cyril and Zuma....and extrapolate a bit...it's that simple.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
18 May 2025, 05:28
#35
18 May 2025, 05:28#35


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 May 2025, 07:17
#36
18 May 2025, 07:17#36

The Dictionary explanation of the word 'Refugee' is in stark contrast to the 54 Afrikaners who have left of their own accord to settle in the USA.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 May 2025, 08:50
#37
18 May 2025, 08:50#37

"a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster"


So 142 race laws against them isn't persecution?


...and the Jews who left Germany before Hitler started rounding them up, weren't refugees either.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
18 May 2025, 09:15
#38
18 May 2025, 09:15#38

So 142 race laws against them isn't persecution?

So you're saying there's 142 race laws negatively directed specifically towards white farmers, not black farmers?

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
18 May 2025, 09:52
#39
18 May 2025, 09:52#39

Of the million plus Japies who exited the homeland I wonder how many regard themselves as being refugees ?

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
18 May 2025, 11:38
#40
18 May 2025, 11:38#40

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