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US President Donald Trump's long history of lying about 9/11 and exploiting it for personal gain

Started by Brycy24 REPLIES2,610 VIEWS· 12 Sept 2018, 03:35
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Koos Kombuis
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12 Sept 2018, 09:39
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12 Sept 2018, 09:39#2
A truly disgusting human being.
Yesterday he wakes up and starts tweeting his usual paranoid and self-serving garbage about "no collusion" and how it's all a big witch-hunt when someone on Twitter said to him it's 9/11, can't you spare us your normal rubbish on this day of all days. Within a few minutes of that he's retweeted someone else's comments about 9/11, so then he gets asked, haven't you got something to say yourself, why are you retweeting someone else's comments? Finally, Bozo types up something about 9/11 himself and it reads: "17 years since September 11th". That was it . . . other than one subsequent Tweet where he talked about what a hero his lawyer Rudy Giuliani was that day.
Still, that lack of respect and those levels of insensitivity pale into insignificance when you remember Bozo's response back in 2001 shortly after the 9/11 attack where he (typically) used the tragedy as an opportunity for self-promotion. His very first response wasn't to express shock or compassion for the dead and injured, it was to say that his building - 40 Wall Street - was now the tallest building in Lower Manhattan. Apart from being wrong (70 Pine Street is taller than 40 Wall Street) it demonstrated what a truly disgusting human being Bozo really is . . . the kind of moron who would do a double fist pump at a 9/11 memorial.
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12 Sept 2018, 10:25
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“His very first response wasn't to express shock or compassion for the dead and injured, it was to say that his building - 40 Wall Street - was now the tallest building in Lower Manhattan. Apart from being wrong (70 Pine Street is taller than 40 Wall Street) it demonstrated what a truly disgusting human being Bozo really is . . . the kind of moron who would do a double fist pump at a 9/11 memorial.” Yep. That is how they roll. One NZ reporter looking for something..... anything to write about Trump decide on this and ou Eenoorkoos falls for it, hook line and sinker. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-bragged-tallest-building/ Claim: Donald Trump bragged that he had tallest building in downtown Manhattan after the 9/11 attacks destroyed the World Trade Center. Origin: On 11 September 2001, as news outlets in New York, the United States, and around the world struggled to keep up with unfolding reports of that day’s terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, newscasters from local television station WWOR spoke live on the air with Donald Trump about the event by telephone. Trump described how he had witnessed the attack from an office window that looked directly onto the World Trade Center and answered questions from the newscasters about subjects such as whether he was taking any precautions to protect his own buildings and what the city would need to do to recover from the attacks: Fifteen years later, as Trump was in the midst of a heated national campaign as the Republican Party’s presidential nominee, a clip of that interview was widely featured online along with derogatory statements asserting that it captured Trump’s “bragging” that the Trump Building (a 71-story skyscraper at 40 Wall Street) had become the “tallest in downtown Manhattan” once the WTC Towers fell: What Donald Trump actually said was: 40 Wall street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan, and it was actually before the World Trade Center the tallest, and and then when they built the World Trade Center it became known as the second-tallest, and now it’s the tallest And I just spoke to my people, and they said it’s the most unbelievable sight, it’s probably seven or eight blocks away from the World Trade Center, and yet Wall Street is littered with two feet of stone and brick and mortar and steel … So it is true that during the course of that interview, in response to a query about whether his own buildings had sustained any damage, Trump stated, in reference to the Trump Building, that “now it’s the tallest” [in downtown Manhattan]. Whether that remark constituted “bragging” is a matter of subjective interpretation, however. Critics maintain that Trump’s referencing the relative height of 40 Wall Street in the immediate aftermath of the World Trade Center towers’ fall was completely gratuitous and irrelevant to the discussion, the hallmark of an egoist with no compunctions about using tragedy as an opportunity for self-promotion. But in the context of the full interview, Trump’s remarks could perhaps be considered defensible. First of all, the newscasters to whom Trump was speaking were appealing to their audience by repeatedly referring to his status in the New York real estate community, describing him as the “man behind lots of real estate in Manhattan” and a “visionary in New York real estate,” and they specifically asked him about the Trump Tower and the Trump Building, which they termed “one of the great tourist attractions in the world” and “one of the landmark buildings down in the financial district,” respectively. It was to be expected that he would respond to those lead-ins with at least a little bit of subtle swagger (which he expressed matter-of-factly rather than hyperbolically). Second, Trump’s remark was made in response to questions about whether his buildings had sustained any damage and whether he was taking any precautions to protect them. In the chaos of that day, it wasn’t too much of a stretch to think that Trump was pondering whether the (as yet unknown) terrorists, having destroyed the two tallest buildings in lower Manhattan, might be coming after the next-tallest. But then again, the office building at 70 Pine Street is listed as being 25 feet taller than 40 Wall Street (although it has four fewer floors), so perhaps Trump could be considered to have been “bragging” for claiming an honor that wasn’t actually his. So, in the end, it is more a matter of opinion than anything else. And of course the hyper ventilating over eager NZ reporter latching onto something that he hasn’t properly researched.
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12 Sept 2018, 10:56
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...One NZ reporter looking for something..... anything to write 

This story is in papers all over the place not just NZ...not saying it;s true but alot of it is old news..Maybe the Don can set things straight in the real book he says he's going to write...could be a be st seller  - Amazon  #1 best seller atm is Fear :Trump in the White House...

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12 Sept 2018, 11:00
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12 Sept 2018, 11:41
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“This story is in papers all over the place not just NZ...” Yes. It originated from an article in the Washington post, which I owned by..... wait for it.... Jeff Bezos. I stand by my remark but I am prepared to make changes to my remark. I would like to add the following: “...anything to write. He couldn’t think of anything and then decided to search the internet and stumbled across an article in the WP. He copied it and chucked it in the Opinion section of his paper, without checking the facts.”
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12 Sept 2018, 12:28
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I stand 100% by my independent view that Bozo is a disgusting human being.
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12 Sept 2018, 12:33
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So sad to see my good friend Brycy crashing yet again. But face facts NZ very clearly is being brainwashed by the Fake news Globalist MSM.

Question to these foolish kiwis. Do you want open borders in NZ? Do you want your country and culture (Such as it is!) destroyed?

Flashback: Donald Trump Visits Ground Zero the Day after the 9-11 Attacks and Asks How He Can Help (VIDEO)

On September 11, 2001, Islamic terrorists attacked New York City.
The Muslim killers flew planes into the Twin Towers at the World Trade Center killing 2,606 innocent Americans.

Donald Trump visited Ground Zero the day after the attacks.

New York remembers Donald Trump’s support for the city.
Some comments:

Even then, his pro-America, get it done stance shone through.

A pity that none of our other so-called "leaders" have ever done even a tenth as much in improving America as Trump has done.

Correct. President Trump gave up a lifestyle few will ever know to take on the truly evil Swamp. Why? Because he loves this country!

And I'll go a step further.
Because he dispises what this government has become!

You know what perplexes me most about Trump?
How is it that a New York billionaire can speak the mind of a small farmer in Kansas?
Or a construction worker in Phoenix?
Trump is a genius beyond comprehension actually.

You nailed it. He has more in common with the construction workers, the miners,
The law enforcement men and women, than with the DC elites of either party.
The politicians have their noses in the air winding like bulls in heat. Eager to
position themselves to , shall we say, take advantage of the electorate. 
Serving their own pleasure.

DJT has always impressed me as being just a regular red-blooded American guy, everyday people from the neighborhood who happened to become extremely successful, prosperous, and famous, but he’s still like he’s always been, never forgetting his beginnings in life, and the folks back home, imho.

His dad and him could be seen walking around Trump Village in Brooklyn at 8am in freezing cold checking with tenants if they had any issues. That's when he learned to care about common folks.

Awesome statement! Donald has earned so much respect from me his work ethic and does what he says he’ll do.

I love the guy! He is everything I aspire to become. He is very self-made and he speaks his mind!! LOVE THAT the most about him. He has that New Yorker brawler tenacity! For all those reasons he has 100x over will have my support!!

Well said.
And every American should consider every attack on him by the state media, lack-of-intelligence community, and DC swamp as a direct and deliberate attack on all of us, and this country as a whole.
Its nothing less than treasonous.

You guys know a 100th of all the good this guy dishes out. It's not for nothing God gave this family such success. His dad was awesomely benevolent, as is Donald. I won't go into details, but he paid off a guy's mortgage for once being helped out changing his limousine's tire in the dead of winter; How about the old "bag-lady" or homeless lady he found nesting in one his properties, and to this day this (black) lady has therein a free room for board and gets every week a bouquet of flowers delivered to her.

You can become an even better person. Seek wealth in order to do good in the world. Wealth is a tool for good or evil. There have to be some good people in the world that have great wealth in order to combat the bad. Generosity is a key pathway to wealth. Avoid debt too. Best of luck to you.

He's a blue collar billionaire.

And yes, he is a genius.

He always related to the working class, he was raised American.

I didn't like him, then I listened to him, nearly everything he said I agreed with!

I listened again.

He Won my vote! He was in a position to make the differences I felt helpless to change.

Running the country more like a business is winning bigly too!

My husband and I have always differed in our opinions regarding politics. He was an outside-the-box thinker (voted for Ross Perot, etc.), and I leaned more GOP. When President Trump was chosen as the Republican candidate, I honestly laughed. Thankfully, my husband asked me very respectfully to please, please watch a few rallies and speeches. I have never looked back.

He has a lot of empathy,..he enjoys doing good for others!

He may have gotten a hand up when he started out and had he not succeeded would have never been heard from again. You can't run a successful business if you don't understand the fundamentals. He graduated from a military school and attended the Wharton School for business. How can these morons on the left claim he knows nothing about economics? His experience with negotiating with politicians over building permits and labor contractors far outbalances any sitting member of congress. His detractors are selling BS to the public.

I believe the roots of his ability to speak to the common man are based in his Christian upbringing, his gratitude and love for his family and his country. He is gracious enough to thank the military servicemen and women for their sacrifices and work. No one is perfect, but he's our champion now.

What other "Billionaire" put the nation and it's citizens first; set aside his lifestyle to fix the mess of decades of incompetent and corrupt government?

That's right. Donald J. Trump stands alone. He is the gift that keeps on giving. God bless him for that.

Affirmative. But rest assured our previous “Betters” have done more than a Tenth to help destroy this once great nation that POTUS Trump is Making Great Again. One step at a time. With all the hate and smears thrown at him and all the obstacles of obstruction by the Dems and NeverTrumpers from all directions shows the fight this man has in him. He never wavers. He never gives up. He knows how to do one thing and one thing only. WIN! And that’s what we voted for! To Win again. To be Proud to be Americans again. To be proud of our Leader! To be American again period. No more bowing to our enemies. No more appeasement. That’s what really gets the MSM’s panties in a bunch. They have never seen a conservative fight back. They don’t like it. They don’t like the fact that they are no longer our gatekeepers to information. That they can no longer str8 up lie about one thing to make it look bad while in a reality it’s very good then do the opposite like lie about something that is horrible policy to make it sound like it’s great policy cuz it comes from a Dem or their Chosen One I.e. OCare vs Border Security. Both were started under Bam Bam Obama. Yet President Trump gives these kids Xbox and cots. Bam Bam Bammy gave them cages and foil blankets like at an animal shelter. Yet they blame this on President Trump. Then they str8 up lie to u about Obamacare. “You Gotta Pass it To See What’s In It” “If You Like Your Dr. u can keep your Dr” etc. and the MSM ran with those lines to make it sound like ocare was the next great American investment. Yet we all know how that has turned out, right? Unless u r a Bam Bam Cult member that is. So POTUS goes at them hard. Deservedly. And proves over and over how fake news is a real threat to our “REPUBLIC” and he will inevitably Win. Like always. 
Remember what your Dear Leader the Messiah of Chiraq said Libtards, Elections Have Consequences.....
#MAGA


ETC ETC ETC. What don't these dumbasses not understand!!



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Koos Kombuis
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12 Sept 2018, 13:56
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
There are some classics in there for sure!
If anyone is like me and battles to understand just how stupid people have to be to vote a moron like Bozo into office then they just need to read some of these pearlers. 
"Donald J. Trump stands alone. He is the gift that keeps on giving. God bless him for that."
"I believe the roots of his ability to speak to the common man are based in his Christian upbringing, his gratitude and love for his family and his country."
"Trump is a genius beyond comprehension actually."
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Pure comedy gold! Keep them coming Beeno!
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12 Sept 2018, 15:09
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KKK the comedy is how unhinged the demorats have become!!! They cant grow up and accept Trump whipped scumbag Crooked Hillary who today is a nobody and embarrassment to the demonrats.

Meanwhile Amicans flock to the Trump banner. Support amongst African Americans now said to be 36% up from around 9% or so in the elections. Hispanic poll numbers also up. Given that both these groups have now the lowest unemployment rates in the history of America its no surprise at all.

The call for open borders and the abolishment of iCE WONT GO DOWN WELL METHiNKS FOR THE DEMONRATS.

Bwahahahahhaahhahahahahaha . kkk Americans love Trump - The radical globalist/marxist left loons don't and you are of course known by your enemies.

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Koos Kombuis
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12 Sept 2018, 15:21
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Tell us more about Bozo's Christian upbringing and the way he demonstrates those cherished values.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Wait, wait . . . let me guess . . . "we've been over the transcripts and in a key part of my sentence I said I like to grab them by the pussy when I meant to say I like to read to them from the Bible . . . a sort of double negative that I thought would be obvious to everyone."
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12 Sept 2018, 15:29
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Meanwhile . . .

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12 Sept 2018, 16:07
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12 Sept 2018, 16:09
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12 Sept 2018, 16:21
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12 Sept 2018, 16:22
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12 Sept 2018, 16:23
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12 Sept 2018, 16:24
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12 Sept 2018, 16:28
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12 Sept 2018, 16:31
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12 Sept 2018, 16:32
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12 Sept 2018, 16:48
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Koos Kombuis
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12 Sept 2018, 17:04
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12 Sept 2018, 17:04#24
Actually that's probably more than enough for the midterms.
Beeno, you still haven't told us about Bozo's christian upbringing and how he demonstrates those christian values in his daily life.
The values we do see are adultery, narcissism, greed, lies, vindictiveness and petulance. Are those the christian values you're referring to?
If Bozo is an advert for christianity then thanks very much but you can keep it!
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Koos Kombuis
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12 Sept 2018, 20:19
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