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US says Russia has lost 315,000 troops in Ukraine, equivalent to 90% of invading force

Started by bobbok...6 REPLIES319 VIEWS· 14 Dec 2023, 02:33
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
14 Dec 2023, 02:33
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14 Dec 2023, 02:33#1

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-losses-in-ukraine-war-cia-b2463129.html

Russia’s military personnel losses in its invasion of Ukraine have crossed 300,000, showed estimates by the UK that also said thousands more have deserted the battlefield.

James Heappey, minister of state for the armed forces, revealed the UK’s estimates of losses faced by Vladimir Putin since the start of the invasion in February last year.

“We estimate that approximately 302,000 Russian military personnel have been killed or wounded, and tens of thousands more have already deserted since the start of the conflict,” he said on Tuesday in response to queries from John Healey, the shadow secretary of state for defence.

Detailing other extensive Russian losses, Mr Heappey said Russia has lost thousands of military vehicles, naval vessels, and equipment, in a massive resource drain.

“We also estimate that over 7,117 Russian armoured vehicles, including nearly 2,475 main battle tanks, 93 fixed wing aircraft, 132 helicopters, 320 unmanned aerial vehicles, 16 naval vessels of all classes, and over 1,300 artillery systems of all types have been destroyed since the start of the conflict,” he said.

The UK’s estimate of casualties is similar to the assessment made by Kyiv, that said Russia had lost a total 313,470 military personnel in combat as of Tuesday.

On being asked about the casualties seen in Russian private military companies (PMCs) in the war, Mr Heappey said the actual toll of these casualties cannot be obtained amid difficulties.

“The number of personnel killed serving in Russian PMCs is not clear,” he said.

“Russia have utilised several PMCs and volunteer units in Ukraine to augment Russian military forces, but the deaths of personnel from these organisations are not reflected in Russian official military death tolls.”

The Wagner group, one of Russia’s most prominent PMCs, had been deployed in some of the bloodiest battles in Ukraine.

The group has suffered significant casualties in Ukraine. But after an aborted mutiny by its now-dead chief Yevgeny Prigozhin earlier this year, many Wagner fighters had left the country and relocated to Belarus under a deal.

Kyiv, however, later said several hundred of them had returned to eastern Ukraine.

Russia has not released any official casualties suffered by it since the start of the war in Ukraine. Moscow and Kyiv have guarded their own battlefield losses and treated them as state secrets.

In the early stages of war, Russia publicly acknowledged the deaths of just over 6,000 soldiers. Reports about military losses have been repressed in Russian media, activists and independent journalists said.

Documenting the dead in the country has become an act of defiance; those who do so face harassment and potential criminal charges.

In February, the UK’s defence ministry said approximately 40,000-60,000 Russians had likely been killed in the war.

A leaked assessment from the US Defence Intelligence Agency put the number of Russians killed in action in the first year of the war at 35,000-43,000.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Dec 2023, 03:03
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14 Dec 2023, 03:03#2

If you believe this you will also beleive the moon is made of green cheese.   I would put the figures of deaths provided by Russia iro Ukriane losses as unreliable asd the fiogures provided herein.   

If anybody provid info the Ukraine G overnment does not like he is dead within 24 hours.   I think the same as in Russia.   F actual info emerges in th end.   If 300 000 Russian losses were true than how cme the remining  10% occupied at least 20% of the terrtory of Ukraine  and is now on the attack in a wide range of areas along the front held by the two armies and th signs are a retreat by the Ukrainians further into Ukraine?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Dec 2023, 03:40
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14 Dec 2023, 03:40#3

Bot alert.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
14 Dec 2023, 04:58
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14 Dec 2023, 04:58#4

FFS dumb Mike thinks Russia is only fighting this war with the original invasion force. Not only that but these superme n are advancing after being on the front line for 2 years. Do these super warriors wear capes and have underwear on the outside of their pants like you?

Do you ever step back and think about anything at all or just type the first thing that enters your empty skull?

You have posted some insane shit before but this defies all logic.



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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
14 Dec 2023, 05:06
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14 Dec 2023, 05:06#5

Might explain why Russia has done so badly, why don't you ring up your mate and suggest he sends some reserves to Ukraine, I am sure there would be a medal in it for you for suggesting such a stunning new tactic,  will probably make you a general.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Dec 2023, 06:27
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14 Dec 2023, 06:27#6

Mozart

Arse alert   

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Dec 2023, 22:16
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17 Dec 2023, 22:16#7

Its the truth

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