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Was every crooked Democratic Party member of Congress involved in Ukraine money making?

Started by clevermike9 REPLIES673 VIEWS· 04 Oct 2019, 09:47
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2019, 09:47
#1
04 Oct 2019, 09:47#1

So what is really going on?

Lets start with the issue of Biden and especially his proxy son - who was fired by the Navy for drug related abuse - is suddenly appointed on the Board of Burisma under investigation by the Ukraine Chief Prosecutor for Bribery and corruption.   Hunter Biden could not speak Ukrainian and he had no knowledge of the field of operation of the company involved.   The Biden's claimed $50 000 dollars per month for services rendered was paid to him - but fact is he was paid millions according to prove of payment.  The money went from Ukraine to Latvia - from there to Cypress and from Cypress to the USA into the company account of Hunter's Company.  So Joe Biden forced the Ukraine Government to fire the prosecutor. 

Then there is Podesta - Manager of the Clinton election campaign in 2016 with his own business interests in Ukraine,

Now it came out that the one of Schiff's major fundraisers are the USSR borne Pasternak with armament interests in Ukraine - major dealer in Ukraine arms operating from America.   After the fund raising Schiff became a major cog in promoting armament provision to the Ukraine.   No wonder Trump was unhappy releasing assistance to the Ukraine for arms purchases - he obviously knew what the DP members  was doing in making money out of Ukraine for their own pockets, 

The funny part is that the so-called "whistleblower" - if indeed there was any - went to Schiff with the phone call story and from there the whistleblower report originated.   It is clear that the DP circulated the report amongst their members before any hearing took place.   There is sound reason to believe that Schiff had a major role in compilation of the Whistleblower report.   

The question arises other than Biden, Clinton, Podesta and Schiff who have been involved in the Ukraine corruption activities and is any real investigation not going to land them all in jail.  Also what was the involvement of Ukraine in the Russian Hoax story and the infamous fraudulent Steele Dossier?

Any real investigation is going to land too many Democratic politicians in trouble and the latest effort is to stop all investigations and to use the lot in the DP with problematic dealings in the Ukraine from appearing in court for criminal activity.  

The swamp is indeed deep and the latest efforts are going to backfire badly on the corrupt DP members involved in politics.                               

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2019, 10:44
#2
04 Oct 2019, 10:44#2

Great post Mike. 

More damping info re the whistleblower has emerged which I will post on latter. He is a Democrat with a bad history. 

This is backfiring BIG TIME. 


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2019, 11:12
#3
04 Oct 2019, 11:12#3

Who is it - really want to know what is happening?

Anyway the question is - is there any DP congress members who is not crooked? 

The latest info is that Schiff had the issue of the whistleblower report for over a month and obviously made major inputs into it before it went to the Inspector General.  He let the cat out of the bag when his tweets were studied.  

The fact that the whistleblower report was apparently concocted by him and the Schumer Lawyer is going to kill this Impeachment investigation.   The problem also is that there is no vote on Impeachment  in the House made,   After that vote is taken a special committee is appointed to deal with the impeachment procedures  and investigation,   Members of both parties can subpoena witnesses and can question those witnesses.

Since no vote has been taken on the issue - Pelosi has assigned the investigation to the Judicial Committee - leading to a ruling by its Chairman Schiff  that only he as chairman can subpoena witnesses and the Republican Party members may not question witnesses.   These issues has gone to the Supreme Court for a ruling.   

This is looking more and more to a DP witch hunt in a desperate effort to prevent their dirty linen to being exposed.  

  

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
04 Oct 2019, 15:59
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04 Oct 2019, 15:59#4

If there is a crook, it is the whole American population - or all their political leaders.

This is run in the mill stuff for America. They have been interfering with other countries politics behind the scenes for ages. 

One of the main gripes in the middle east and Africa, is how America will support opposition governments - as long as they can secure good trading agreements. This is why America is so hated in third world countries. America Press (regardless of right, central or left) always portrays Americans as the peacemakers helping in these countries. What is really going on in America is securing trade deals, and do not care less about the country they are manipulating.

America just wants an open market with fewer trade restrictions so they can buy raw materials at cheaper prices. Change Americans government to Democratic or Republication or vice versa, and this stuff will still go on.

The Irak war was pathetic. They were invaded on the basis of having advanced weaponry such as nuclear weapons (Weapons of mass destruction). After the war was finished, it was clear that Irak had primitive weapons and was no threat. However, America secured some good oil deals out of this. Tony Blair (UK prime minister at the time) then said the world was a better place without Saddam Hussein, so it was a good action anyway...  Fast forward and this power vacuum in the middle east has created the worst terrorist organisation the world has ever seen (Alkaeda).

America also happens to be the largest manufacturer of arms in the world. They probably have more nuclear bombs than the rest of the world put together.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2019, 17:25
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04 Oct 2019, 17:25#5

SB

You mean ISIS?  That started after the Iraq war scenario -  El Qeada was started in Afghanistan and active there,   It never was active in Iraq and ISIS was formed after the US installed a puppet regime there.

The US is always involved in shenanigans in foreign politics - you right on that score.   However, the present scenario has nothing to do with external politics and the problem is there was a complot developed by the Obama Administration - in collaboration with the Ukraine and involving elements in the Australian, Italian and UK governments in an effort to undermine the Trump election campaign.  It did not work out.

That issue is now being investigated by the Attorney General of the USA and others and the first two reports are out indicating serious impropriety in the cases of two FBI senior officials - Comey and McCann.   However, the third and fourth reports will contain serious charges that can sent people to jail and the present "Impeachment" moves is a desperate effort to prevent  those reports seeing the light of day.

Trump has serious issues with US AID money being looted by US citizens and it obviously happened in the past.  That is why he asked the Departments to look at the Biden's in particular,  It has nothing to do with Biden's involvement in the election in 2020 at all - his query involved alleged corrupt activities in Ukraine, while Joe Biden was VP.   

There are other people in the USA with corrupt links to  Ukraine and other countries.   They were mostly linked to the Obama Administration and could have serious consequences for the DP.  Panic stations all round.

                    

   

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2019, 17:25
#6
04 Oct 2019, 17:25#6

SB

You mean ISIS?  That started after the Iraq war scenario -  El Qeada was started in Afghanistan and active there,   It never was active in Iraq and ISIS was formed after the US installed a puppet regime there.

The US is always involved in shenanigans in foreign politics - you right on that score.   However, the present scenario has nothing to do with external politics and the problem is there was a complot developed by the Obama Administration - in collaboration with the Ukraine and involving elements in the Australian, Italian and UK governments in an effort to undermine the Trump election campaign.  It did not work out.

That issue is now being investigated by the Attorney General of the USA and others and the first two reports are out indicating serious impropriety in the cases of two FBI senior officials - Comey and McCann.   However, the third and fourth reports will contain serious charges that can sent people to jail and the present "Impeachment" moves is a desperate effort to prevent  those reports seeing the light of day.

Trump has serious issues with US AID money being looted by US citizens and it obviously happened in the past.  That is why he asked the Departments to look at the Biden's in particular,  It has nothing to do with Biden's involvement in the election in 2020 at all - his query involved alleged corrupt activities in Ukraine, while Joe Biden was VP.   

There are other people in the USA with corrupt links to  Ukraine and other countries.   They were mostly linked to the Obama Administration and could have serious consequences for the DP.  Panic stations all round.

                    

   

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
04 Oct 2019, 17:57
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04 Oct 2019, 17:57#7
Yes, ISIS. (Not the other crew).  Like Sasha Cohen says, they were so 2003 (about the Taliban). 


AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
06 Oct 2019, 18:10
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06 Oct 2019, 18:10#8

CM to answer your question the answer is no.

After the Clinton's, Biden's looted the Ukraine coffers the other corrupt Demorats had no option but to seek other countries in disarray and with billions on offer that was disguised as aid.

It is rumored that quite a number of Demorats filled their pockets by selling of the uranium holdings of the USA.

I for one hope and pray that DT in his second term has that uranium  investigation re-opened and that justice will be handed down to all those who made a killing by selling out their country.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2019, 21:49
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06 Oct 2019, 21:49#9

Yes the Uranium 1 issue is massive.It rises to the level of treason. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Oct 2019, 21:51
#10
06 Oct 2019, 21:51#10

Hope you guys are following all the breaking news. The demonrats and Deep State are in big trouble. 

IG report out in two weeks. 

Brexit coming to a head this month. 

The battle against the elite Globalists rages.

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