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What is an Amerian according to Biden - especially for SB

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2024, 07:52
#1
22 Jun 2024, 07:52#1

Watch this video and you would find out that Open Borders is justified because to oppose it is not what Amrican are expected to do:-

.https://www.foxnews.com/video/6355244995112

Is it Unamerican to close borders and allow all migrants inclusive of criminals and terrorists into the USA.     Because of 62% of the US voters wanted all illegal migrnts deported from the USA - Biden suddenly announced that the border wall construction would now restart - but if he is re-elected the Open Border policy will be back  the next day in full force  

*    murder and sexual attacks and serious crimes by illegal migrants - now at about 1 per day will increase to 10 a day;

*    attempts to enter US army bases by illegal migrants are going to escallate badly with even Wray saying that the FBI is worried about terrorists entering te USA and now had the arrest of 8 ISIS terrorists who entered the USA illegally and then attacked a synagogue - while planning firther terrorist attacks on people countrywide;

*    Pro-Hamas protestors organized by the Democratic Party terrorist subsidiary Antifa and funded by Soros is going to turn violent sooner rather than later like happened in 2020.

However, what is real American according to Biden is to turn against efforts to redduce criminality and murder rates in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles and  New Orleans makes them the worst and unsafe cities in the Americas.    Californians are fleeing from that State with many going to Acapulco because the California gangsters is more  dangerous than the Mexican Cartels.  It is Unamerican to not provide accommodation to illegal migrant - but that does not apply to the hundreds of thousands of American citizens living on side-walks to assist them to improve their lives,

So to be American you should live in secured areas and get the State or private companies to guard the areas they live in,    You must refer to help homosexuals and people from the  52 sexual variations they identified and give them preferential treatment over ordinary Americans.    It is American to attack the US Constitution all out and claim you are indeed loyal to the Constitution.   It is American to undermine the country in all possible manners imaginable.     

  

  


     

    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Jun 2024, 11:40
#2
22 Jun 2024, 11:40#2
Tell us, have you ever come to America. And if so, when?
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Jun 2024, 15:51
#3
22 Jun 2024, 15:51#3

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2024, 17:56
#4
22 Jun 2024, 17:56#4

Mozart

Know - but I get my news from eno/ugh sources to know w aht t he US  became - an ultra-left h omeland for th e Rich  and the illegal  migrants.   I watch and look at various news agwncies - not only the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.

But then you have even a worse record about Russiaa - you get all your opinions from the two media outlkets mentioned and have never bother to read up abything on Russian people - and you support ethnic cleansing  in Eastern Ukraine and wants the Crimea to also drive Russians from their homes and steal their properties for the benefit of Ukrainians who never lived in the Crimea.   You also support terrorism and murder of civilities that let to the UN declaring the Asov Batallion being a terrorist and mercenary force after they murderd over 3 000 people in Odessa and Mariopol.   But then the USA wanted them absorbed into the Ukraine army so that they can be armed by the USA.

So keep up supporting terrorism and murder of civillians and destruction of civil libertioes in the unconstitutional dictatoirship it is at present - so bear that in mind that is exactly what the Democrats have in mind in the USA.    So keep on supporting that as well.             

        

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Jun 2024, 18:06
#5
22 Jun 2024, 18:06#5

BB

Ask the USA people why circaa 3 million or more fled from US Cities like New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland and Seattle to safe Republican Party controlled areas.    Ask them why arrested criminals are out on the Street the next day to keep on terrorising  communities in inner cities.

The med ia never ever cover criminality levels in the USA because it may embarrassing and the idiot you have the above video from is certainly not living in dangerous high-crime areas in the USA.

             

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
22 Jun 2024, 22:42
#6
22 Jun 2024, 22:42#6

Go to min 5.31 for stats

Violent crime down 15.2%

murders down 26.4%

rapes down 25.7%

aggravated assaults down 12.5%

robberies down 17.8

property crime down 15.1%

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2024, 00:38
#7
23 Jun 2024, 00:38#7

So all your blather about life in America is just regurgitated propoganda .

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2024, 07:20
#8
23 Jun 2024, 07:20#8

Well it is not propaganda - since I follow a number of news agencies and not only the propaganda BS  you beleve in.   There is  plenty of evidenc that the Biden regime weaponized the Justice Department and  that includes the FBI to undermine oppostiion to the Regime  - like spying on 278 000 potential opponents purely because they attended School Board meetings to protest against education systems suimilar to those of Stalin and they are Catholics who oppose abortions.

So you call propaganda  a finding of the FIS Court as expsoed by that court as propaganda and CNN for their comments on an opinion poll that Biden is regarded as a greater threat to Democracy than Trump which I saw on CNN - w hen they enarly had a ceazure about it.   

There were huge holes in at least 4 propaganda stories of WSJ which you published on site and one thing I do know is that you know nothing about the history of the USA and especially not of Russian history at all,   

As to Ukraine I wrote often about the fact that -

*   the USA used the CIA to fund the 2014 power take-over in Ukraine - eg that Brennan - the then head of the CIA in the period  September  2013 to February 2014 visited Kiev 4 times;

*    that in a video Nuland - then Assistant Secretary of State - described who should be in the new Ukraine Government chosen by her and she even promised to introduce two members of the Bandera movement to Biden to assure their appointment - most of those appointments are still in the Ukraine Cabinet; and

*    that in the process the Ukraine 1991 constitution was aborted  and that opens the way for the total loss of civil liberties in Ukraine.

I have opposed the war from Day 1 and criticized Putin for the invasion - but not like the way the USA Government undermined two peace agreements signed by the Ukraine and Russian Presidents and how the USA also sabotaged the ceasefire negoitiations in Istanbul - on which you published a WSJ article 18 months later despite the Ukraine ambassador in Turkey saying  openly that the USA Gvernment told the Ukraine Foreign Minister to leave Istanbul immediately and initial nothing in an effort to stop the War.

I can understand that Biden is under orders not to do anything  to stop the war through negotiations - there were no negiotatiations on the Ukraine issue between 2014 and 2022 between the USA and Russia.    Whie Trump was President the USA fake media you believe in was attacking Trump of being Putin's agent in the USA - which was entirely BS and the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine went on - but in comaprison with other major crisis the USA was involved in - namely the ME problems and the danger posed by North Korea, he concentrated on those two issues.

Putin publicly admitted openly on TV that he respected and in a way fear the reactions from doing tings Trump disapproved of and that is why for instance Trump - fearing near control of EU countries through importing gas from Russia - became too dependent on Russia and he banned the completion of the Nort Stream pipeline.

Biden's first mandates autoriszed the open border policies and unbanned completion of the pipeline and after the Russian Invasion of Ukraine decided to sabotage the completed pipeline.by a group of Marines specially trained for eight weeks in Virginia on how to destroy effectively the pipeline.

Personally I have always supported a negotiated sttlement in Ukraine based on basic demcoratic principles to have a new Constitution in Ukraine to replace the 1991 one destroyed by the 2014 coup in Ukraine.   I also supported the idea that Ukraine - like Austria would not become a member of NATO - since there would be no real benefits for the people of Ukraine anyway.

So why does the Biden Regime wants continuation of the War in Ukraine.   The USA media made out the legend that only Russia was to blame for the situation in Ukraine - while the real problems started when the USA installed a new Government to take power in Kiev in 2014,    

What bothers me about the present USA approach drove previously allied countries into a situation where they joined BRICS for protection purposes,   The USA supported Regime change in Afhanistan a nd Iraq and it never was sustainable,  Those countries feared that the Biden Administration tried that in their own countries - because none of the Governments where the USA since WW2 tried to instal puppet Governments and all failed.   The real situation is that the USA wanted a puppet Government in Kiev - same as they tried to do unsuccessfully in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.   So which allies of the USA are now in BRICS?    Virtually all the ME Countries - as well as Mexico, Turkey, Argetina and other countries like Indonesia and Nigeria on the application list to become members,

 Finally the Biden dementia suffering moron  caused isntability and wars in the world - his only foreign policy achievement was to fart before royalty and they would not  invite him to teh funeral of Queen Elizabeth and the crowning of King Charles and then allowed his wife to attend - but not him.                                  

 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Jun 2024, 08:38
#9
23 Jun 2024, 08:38#9

Translation: "I are watch Fox News and reed The Gtaeway Pundit waht deal in fakts so enyone waht are disgree with me are branewashed idoits who are swalow BS propergander."

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2024, 13:30
#10
23 Jun 2024, 13:30#10

Rooidoos

I refer to a number of sources where I get infor from which inter alia incluesed -

*    reports of the Special Councils to investigate Trump and the Russian Collussion hoax found to be lies started by Clinton and the DNC and helped along by the Obama Administration;

*    videos relaing to heaings in the Senate and House, where evidence under oath is taken;

*    read up on issues such as the near to seizure statements when it came out their was a opinion pole indicatiung that Biden is a more serious threat to Demcoracy than Trump is - as is evidenced by the following vide from a Senate Hearing:-

https://www.google.com/search?q=Senator+Hawley+video+on+CIA+spying+on+278+000+people&rlz=1C1YTUH_enZA1068ZA1070&oq=Senator+Hawley+video+on+CIA+spying+on+278+000+people&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCjU0MTMwajBqMTWoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:0267507a,vid:SWmDQPGEbnc,st:0 

That is not propaganda - that is factual.

Because people are under oath when giving evidence in the House and Senate Hearings theya re supposed to be prosecued for lying - but the Attorney General FGarland would not proseute them.

See how happy the following Senate Hearing makes you:-

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-quVroJkIk

That is not proaganda - that is factual info and shows he attitude of the Biden Administration.    That represents slavery re-introduced in the USA.   Not to worry these people are above the law, incompetent and often corrupt.

That shows the Justice Departgment is not prosecuting  Demcoratic Party criminals as long as they are supporting the criminal leadership of  Biden.     

         

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
23 Jun 2024, 14:25
#11
23 Jun 2024, 14:25#11
clevermike

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So to be American you should live in secured areas and get the State or private companies to guard the areas they live in,    You must refer to help homosexuals and people from the  52 sexual variations they identified and give them preferential treatment over ordinary Americans.  

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The below-average intelligence community claims bias against them, while minority groups are elevated above them, DumbMike's kin fear their declining position in society.... This is what they mean by Woke

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2024, 15:19
#12
23 Jun 2024, 15:19#12

 SB

I suggest you make a study of what the Woke Culture entails.

A tpical example hapened in the UK yeserday.   The cxhildren are taught their forebearers should be hated all previous Governments ever in the history of the USA and that monuments and statues should be destoyed.    They are also told in Government schools to hate their parents and look to their teachers to deal with all their issues.

One survey indicated that only 16% of the school children coming out of schools felt loyal to the USA as a country.    That is just an  example of the Woke Culture.    In any way the Woke lot encourage people to destroy culture.

So that is why idiots tried to paint Stonehenge pink - hope they get 10 years in jail for that.   

In any event an insult me by claiming a below-intelligece level and I enjoyed the laugh - but what is funnier is that you are being brrainwashed into inability to think for yourself,                   

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
23 Jun 2024, 18:19
#13
23 Jun 2024, 18:19#13
The woke virus is to convert the below-educated into blacks and trans people or to reduce their status in society . 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2024, 00:33
#14
24 Jun 2024, 00:33#14

Poor SB

He does no want to look at anything  at all when it coems to his weird and ignorant idea about things. and how destructive to any country the Woke Culture became.    They do not realize that the people promoting the work cultrure beleive Stalin and Mao was benevolent rulers accused by liars of crimes against humanity.    

They do not realize that the Demcoratic Party in th e USA has bene infiltrated by Communiksts in the USA and they are doing the bidding to destroy the U SA as a country.       

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Jun 2024, 03:22
#15
24 Jun 2024, 03:22#15

Why's any criticism of Russia/Putin verboten ? Not once in over 50000 posts.

What really happened when you visited there in the N ineties ?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2024, 03:58
#16
24 Jun 2024, 03:58#16

BB 

Two th ing s noth ing  is verboten on site and when I criticize people I h ave sound proof of criticism - I also h av not supported Trump initially as Rpublican Party - but th e sue of illegal and unconstitutional methods by the Democrats and the lies in the emdia made me rethink my attitude in that regard.  

I sdislike two th inkgs in life - Government corruption and media distortions.   90% of the stories coming out about Putin is not true ad has not been prvoen by fact - give me real proof and I will studty it arefully and determine how and why I should criticiz him.   

How there is a hell of a lot wrong  and accepted by the majority of people is BS coming  out of the Biden dementia suffering idiot in the WH - a total imbecile as shown in videos.   But according  to House Investigations and a determined cover-up on criminality by the Justice department and the  FBI is wh y he his not in jail yet.   If aybody outside of politics do what Biden did he would be in a lunatuc asylum for dementia sufferersm  He is not the President at all - he is a dummy they use to sign mandates ad laws which he does without knowing what he signed,

SB - nothing  really happened - oter t han I had a lot of talking  with tourguides and other Russian people to find outwhat they really believe,   The one person that was very interesting tt alk to was a Russian navy captain who made a study of Russian involvemment in teh Anglo Boer War and he wa very keen to speak about it to me as a South African.   he knew everything abou the Russian volunteer commando who fought on the side of the Boers.   He told me about letters between the Emporer Nicholas and his sister Zenia requestin him to approach Queen Vitoria to use her influence in stopping the war,   Nicky and she were cousins of Edward VII were cousins through the fact that their mothers were sisters.   In the end Nicholas did not write to Queen victoria their Great Aunt as his wife Alexandra was also a granddaughter of Queen Victora because she was already in decline and died in January 1901.

Aside from that I spoke to and met a number of Russians who turned out to be extremely friendly people and very helpful,    A fter the Communist Party was kciked out of power - the economic decline and standard of living collapsed totally and te people were in general very poor - with the average income of workers being $30 per month,  When flying from St Petersnburg to Moscow I set next to a Russian Lorry driver who went to Mocow to collect a heavty duty vehicle/   When he ound out I ws from SA - he immediately called the staff member of Aeroflot and ordered a bear for both of us.   I fund out kater that te beer cost him 10% of his monthly income.

Not being a particularly religious person - I also found out that most Russians when oppressed by Stalin and the other comunist leaders - turn to religion in their hopwe of future freedom.

What I fund amazing was the fact that the Kremlin was open to the public with virtually no real security measures at the gate,   The public an go in and visit any of the museums in the Kremlin. I did not go to the Palce sometimes used for inernaional meetings with foreign leaders.    The Communists did errible damage to Russia - but they retained much of Russia's historic buikdibngs and main palaces,   

The oter striking fact was that nobody could do anything without permission by the Govenrment orf their local Communist leader,   Without such an approval people jsut not do anything.   All agricutural rojeccts was run the same way.   For instance if a tractor driver was instructed to plough a certain area the area was exactly determined and if he completed loughing at 12:00 he would not be allowed to plough more land and wou;d go  home for the rest of the day.   On the state-owned farms each labourer gt han acre of alnd to use for farming himself.   On the whole afgricutural production in Russia in 1084 was less than it was in 1914 due to Communist farming measures and of that production 80% came frm h e small lots the farm laborers produced on their small plots,    Starvation in Russia was common and regular..  

Infrastructure like for instance roads were in a terrible condition.  They were built by shock brigades comprising of prisoners and the method used were totally disastrous - so the biggest potholes I ever saw on the streets in St Petersburg.   The city is much like Venice with canals crisscrossing it -  and whole streets just collapsed and a Swedish firm was used to rebuild it by early 1994.   The road between Valdimir and Moscow of 180 kilometerrs took busses 4 hours to travel because tof he very poor condition of the road.   Incidentally Valdimir was he intitial capital of Russia before Moscow.    There was a coffin in which the body of Alexander Nevski was supposed to be - but there were similar coffins in other Russian cities as well so in the one in Valdimir was only a finger that was claimed to be one of  Nevski's fingers.  

In the time until 1977 when the last slave labor camp was closed the Russian Government murdered sme 52 million people wh ich they routinely buried in the areas where the killings were committed.   By 1993 now killing areas were still being discovered.

In the main waht i lkearned from the visit is thata dictatorship is effectivey run by public servants totally controlling the country and was the basis of the rot that was destroying the country.   Th at perhaps is why I am scared stiff by what is happening in the USA at present,   Giving Public Servants to much power without proper control is destroyig democracy and the country itself,

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Jun 2024, 06:11
#17
24 Jun 2024, 06:11#17

Sorry but AI reckons you speak with a 'forked tongue'

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2024, 06:43
#18
24 Jun 2024, 06:43#18

A1 is BS fed into computers by humans and esecially BSters like SB in this specific case,  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2024, 15:37
#19
24 Jun 2024, 15:37#19

Visited Russia… a few Russians gave him the time of day, so he loves Russia. Has never visited the US, but is an expert on US cities and politics using  the net and his sources in Riversdale. The man’s incredible insights are only limited by the vagaries of Eskom.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
24 Jun 2024, 17:49
#20
24 Jun 2024, 17:49#20
When DumbMike met Igor... 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2024, 19:07
#21
24 Jun 2024, 19:07#21

According to opinion plls nobody believe the stats on crime.   Matter of fact th e murder rate is cincreasing   faster than prviously with hte illegal mig rants added to the actual murders.   The F BI is supposed to c oillect data from local police - but th is time they got it from te DA's in cities in the USA -  and that is highly mimnipulated stats aimed t helping t e Biden election campaign.

As much as their claim is inflation is down to 2,5$.

    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2024, 19:10
#22
24 Jun 2024, 19:10#22

Utter balls…..no number is more predicted and scrutinized than the inflation number. Literally thousands of economists are all over the number.  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jun 2024, 01:51
#23
25 Jun 2024, 01:51#23

Tell that to the people who cannot afford to buy enough  food for the month  - who cannot afford to visit families in their holidays and the 70% opinion polls who claimed Biden's ecinoimic policies are a disaster for them and 62% of the voters who said he was a failure as President.

So go and suggest another Gallop mid-month poll done to support the tale that the voters support funding  of the Ukraine War - a Government that is neglecting  their own people and the 62% of the voters who want all illegals deported from the country.    

Say that to the millions of voters who fled from the wonderful haven of extreme liberalism and criminal loving cities and states where arrested people are releaserd without bail in 24 hours and not charged with crimes - where people who defend themselves against  criminal attacks are charged with murder - where people murder people like happened to thousands of people who lost family members in crime spreess.  

I expect nothing  else from you because you had to defend an incompetent and corrupt Government and see how the Black Democrat Governor of Maryland  stated the Biden Government does not listen to its own people and persist with  the Open Border Policy.   

You attacked me when I stated hat according  to statistics provided by the foodbanks quoting a stidy undertaken in 2012 and in thee end had to admit that 16% suffer from a food deficiency problem - which  in the end you had to admit that my figure of 16,6 % in fact was far lower than the 22% it actually was - and that in the country claiming that it is the wealthiest country in the world.   That real living  costs since 2021 increased by 30% based on year-on-year inflation and whose increase in income in the same period increased by 4%.   If you take a food basket of product costs in purchases showed a 30% decline in purhases in 2020 compared to what can be purchased in 2024.  

And then you also defend the Demcorats when they liied about inflation saying  inflation under Trump was 9%  2020 - w hile it was 2,5$,   Any lies yof Biden are faithfully supported by you on site.    Maybe you would find that the USA is going to hell because hey allowed criminals into the country and also terrorists - even the lying Wray worries about that one.

You fail to realize that ordinary people in Europe voted against the same policies as Biden is applying in the USA and to survive so-called conservative parties are forced to move to the right if they wish to survive.    That Macron's party was near to wiped out in the EU election  getting 15% of the votes and now face a parliamentary election with the NR likely to win.   You did not see why the people in Europe turned to the righ twing parties because the leftists send them to hell on earth,       

Say that to the thousands of people who suffer under a  Governmnt that has crime policies that proects criminals at the expense of law-abiding  people and a Party with 145 of their 213 House members attack democracy on a continuous basis.   Tell that to the Jewish woan married who is amrried to a Catholic Dominican who was atatcked at a school function by screaming Muslims shouting  death to Israel - an attack leading to injuries to both her huisband and son.   Say that to the Maryland  family where a mother of 5 children who were murdered by an illegal migrant last week - whose family got a phone call from Trump to express sympathy, but whose murder was ignored by the Biden Administration.

Tell that to the people whose sons aand husbands were killed in Afghanistan whose bodies arrived in the  USA and Biden showed no interest in what happened and consmtantly look at h is wrist watch to get away from the cermoney.

Just one question - have the area you live in a contract with private security to protect you and oter residents in your privilefged envirnment?

Another laughable Mozart contribution as to climatte change BS was a contant on site - and now apaprently turned you supporting  the Greens BS claims.    You used to prove that over the last 200 years average temperatures increased by 1,8% and that half of that percentage happened since the 1940's. You went quiet n that issue since the WSJ and the New York Times supported the BS.

I think that SA has gone backwards under the ANC  Government and  that is the way  ultra-left Biden administration wants the USA to go - a country where according to the FIS Court the FBI spied illegally on 278 000 people because they oppose the  Satlinist school policies of the Democrats and because they belong  to the Catholic Church  who oppose abortion and sex change policies of the Democrats and was called by Biden to be "White Dmestic Terrorists" by Biden.    I bet my bottom dollar your children never went to a State school in the USA  - where education standards are declining and braiwashing of c hildren into hating the country is in practice..          

     


                         

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Jun 2024, 02:18
#24
25 Jun 2024, 02:18#24

You should be more concerned about the hundreds of thousands of your young Russians being needlessly slaughtered in Ukraine .

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jun 2024, 08:36
#25
25 Jun 2024, 08:36#25

Needlessly slaug htered beccause they try to protecft the millions of Rusians being oppressed and thosuands actually murdered by a Ukrainians who wanted to use ethnic cleansing  to get hem out of   territory that never for a thousand years being part of Ukraine  and only beccame part of Ukraine of the constitution of 1991 and then in 2014 that same constitution was thrown out by a regime installed by the USA.

The new dictatorship in Ukraine openly declared their intentions as to millions of Rusian speaking people in  Eastern Ukraine.   A typical example ws the Russian speaking members of the Ukraine Parliament that was arrested and vanished in Eastern Ukraine and by now likely to have been murdered.

That is why I support peace negotiations to settle the Ukraine issue and stop the proxy war in Ukraine funded by the USA.  That negotiations would have prevented the death of undreds o thuands of people - but the USA did not want anything bar war on the basis that tey woulkd get at the Black sea area of Russia and at the same time get 95% of the Russian Population of the Crimea out of that area or murdering them like happened to 18 000 Russin speaking people in other parts of Ukraine.

        

     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jun 2024, 14:23
#26
25 Jun 2024, 14:23#26

You are a gullible fool.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
25 Jun 2024, 14:44
#27
25 Jun 2024, 14:44#27

Just wanted to mention that we visit both Oregan and Washington State many times over the past number of years and have stopped out travels to these destinations.

Not only is it disgusting to see the demise of the bigger cities but the drugies/beggars and looters have destroyed what was once a safe and enjoyable experience.

If you don't believe me just go and see for yourself.

A disgrace to what American once was.

We have family living in Florida, Georgia and New Mexico who have the same issues as I have described.

Take a trip outside your safe zone and go and see just what the USA has become outside your country club visits.

Get real and admit the mess is expanding by the day.

Not only in the USA but world wide.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jun 2024, 15:26
#28
25 Jun 2024, 15:26#28

Not all bigger cities. Miami, Dallas, Atlanta are vibrant. And New York has got its mojo back. The West coast cities are a mess, as is Chicago.

So what happens….all the wealthy people who wanted a Florida/Chicago lifestyle are keeping their homes on the North shore. Real estate prices are up and city restaurants are opening up in the burbs….my town has a vibe it has never had.

Chicago is no longer a regular thing….a shame….but I can live with it. Businesses are moving out, wealth is moving out. Who knows what the fate of these cities will be. One would like to believe reality sets in, but as long as the government bails them out, the downward spiral is hard to stop.

Remember the movie Escape from New York with Snake Plisken….that’s the extreme projection.

All this wont be solved by electing Trump, the courts will neuter him and I still think the Dems will prevail in November. We needed a uniting candidate, who could have won an easy election.

But America rejects what fails and embraces the new and right now the failing bit is the old industrial north and the nutty West Coast. The only thing saving California is the absence of inheritance tax…which is killing Illinois.

Most major countries  had revolutions in the 20th century. America avoided them because it accepted change….this too shall pass.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Jun 2024, 16:18
#29
25 Jun 2024, 16:18#29

Mozart

So none of the issues is true.  Amazing from a brainnwashed gullib;e fool who believe in the leftist media and Stock Exchamge and tell everybody else being gullible when in fact he is the bigge st gullible BSter ever.   LMAO  


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Jun 2024, 16:51
#30
25 Jun 2024, 16:51#30

And yet there you are…. a few miles from where you were born, 

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