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Started by Ceradyne25 REPLIES603 VIEWS· 09 Dec 2019, 12:11
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Dec 2019, 12:11
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09 Dec 2019, 12:11#1

.... this has happened with very little news coverage:


Clinton Donors Charged in Massive Campaign-Finance Scheme


Eight people, including major Hillary Clinton donors and a witness in the Mueller investigation, have been charged in a massive campaign-finance scheme, the Justice Department announced on Tuesday.


The individuals conspired to “make and conceal conduit and excessive campaign contributions” valued around $3.5 million in the 2016 election campaign and beyond, according to the announcement. Although the indictment does not specifically name the recipient of the donations, it is clear that the contributions went to groups allied with Clinton’s presidential campaign.


One of those charged, George Nader, is a Lebanese American businessman who was a witness in the Mueller report. Nader was also caught in 2018 in possession of child pornography, but received partial immunity in exchange for testimony in the Mueller investigation. He faces between 15 to 40 years in prison if convicted on child-pornography charges.


Also indicted on campaign-finance charges was Ahmad “Andy” Khawaja, who hosted a fundraiser for Clinton in Los Angeles in 2016 and who conspired to conceal campaign donations from 2016 to 2018. Khawaja owns an online-payments company used by, among others, debt collectors, offshore gamblers, and pornographers. The company has made numerous campaign donations to both Democrats and Republicans.


Nader also gained access to the Trump administration, meeting with the president on several occasions. Nader has experience in international diplomacy, has served as a diplomatic conduit to the Middle East and Russia, and was an informal adviser to the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Dec 2019, 17:05
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09 Dec 2019, 17:05#2

Ceradyne

Is there any Democratic Party member who is not a scumbag?   Thieves corruption and sex trafficking and  what else seems to be normal for Democrats.   Mueller  giving Nader a free pass on sex trafficking charges  is a criminal himself.  He should be charged as assisting a criminal in that case.   

This is really taking into a criminally connected DP and a curse on the USA.   It is time that the lot should be charged with treason for what they are doing to the USA.

   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Dec 2019, 19:22
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09 Dec 2019, 19:22#3

Nadler indirectly admitted that the DP candidate in the 2020 election will lose if Trump is not impeached,   He claimed that if it does not happen the 2020 election will not be legitimate.

Was the shenanigans and crookery of 2016 by the DP and their surprise loss legitimate.   Trump will not intimidate or crook to win like the DP tried in 2016 since all indications are that he will win anyway.


 

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AJHPro3,183 posts
09 Dec 2019, 20:01
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09 Dec 2019, 20:01#4

Mike we all know that politics is a dirty business but honesty is being distorted and lies delivered at ever turn by the Demorats without any form of shame and no justice being enforced.

Sad, sad time for the USA.

How can this be allowed and what is next if this continues.


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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 05:36
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10 Dec 2019, 05:36#5

Whether one likes Trump or not, the Demonrats and especially the Clintons are slimier, dirtier and more disgusting than center stage after a 2000 man bukakke. You don’t have to support Trump but anyone that supports this crop of Democrats is either too thick to see through them or one of the head bobbing suckers at above referenced event.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Dec 2019, 14:14
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10 Dec 2019, 14:14#6

Windpomp this information is all over the web but of course will not be covered by the globalist controlled MSM. 

The demonrats are scum. They are the most dangerous party on the planet. They hate America and are determined to bring the country to its knees and hand over Sovereignty. 

Their time of reckoning has finally arrived. 

As I post this I cannot but wonder if folks know what the IG has uncovered. And what Barr and Durham have said about the report.

The demonrats will be finished off by the Durham report. 

One can only hope the are stupid enough to vote for impeachment. 

As it stands now no Demorat candidate is beating Trump in  the battle ground states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Trump is way ahead in Wisconsin.

The polls have turned against the demonrats and worse is to come for them. 

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 14:30
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10 Dec 2019, 14:30#7

Important prologue: I am not a Trump supporter. 

As an American living in America however, I enjoy the strong US economy together with millions of other Americans regardless of the hue of their skin or their land of origin. If Trump is not impeached he will win by a landslide next year. You have to really live in America, speak to Americans and understand the electorate to understand the reasons why. I know you will say it’s because we are a bunch of stupid hillbillies and yes, that is one ingredient of a list. Not all of it is sinister. A large portion of the US population is much simpler and this concocted Frankenstein of a case the demons have raised in the judiciary aka ‘impeachment’ is wayyyyy too complex to gain traction and win the hearts and minds of ‘simple folk’. The democrats are making the same mistake that they did in 2016 and they will enjoy the same outcome. Unless of course they miraculously manage to convince the Republican senate to vote in their favor. So far not looking so good.

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 14:51
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10 Dec 2019, 14:51#8

There is a saying here. You get the East coast and you get the West coast. Somewhere in between you get America. One of my favorite pass times is to ride my motorcycle through the countryside here. Put this all together in your head and you might understand why the democrats are so misguided. Fact without racism: Small town America is majority white. Small town America is also historically the most poorly represented at the polls (As low as 20%). I think that’s mostly because they feel disenfranchised and viewed as ‘deplorables’. Anyone getting the picture yet ? They are also mostly conservative. This is the so-called ‘silent majority’. If these folks are motivated to vote, Republicans will win every single election - the end. They only require a few selling points (and not at rocket science level) to convince them like immigration, retaining their blue collar jobs in America, second amendment etc. For you guys that are pro-democrat, do you think wide eyed Adam Schiff from California or Turtle neck Nadler from New York are viewed as supportive of conservative views ? All Trump did guys was invigorate this ‘silent majority’ with very simple messages and he stayed on script. All Hillary’s campaign did was criticize Trump which actually galvanized his base. Very dumb strategy and they are doing it again. And I predict Trump will win again. Easier than last time.

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sharkbokCaptain23,216 posts
10 Dec 2019, 16:52
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10 Dec 2019, 16:52#9
@Seagull,
Living in the US must certainly be a more neutral perspective than looking from afar at the Jerry Springer media circus that has developed in recent years. 
At the moment it seems that parties are either too far left or too far right for me to vote in the UK- and sounds like it is getting like that in the USA.
In the UK the left is becoming "more" socialist, which is a no-no. However, the conservative right seems to favour birthright. Both approaches are anti-capitalist. 
In the UK people have got 2 choices- and many are not happy with either. It seems the conservatives want to protect the 1% richest per cent of the population - rather than developing the bourgeoise middle class. It is suspected that tax evasion amongst the richest 1% was going to be much harder with new EU legislation- and this is why certain Torries want to leave. (Corporate and personal tax evasion). 
If there should be an increase in tax, it should be inheritance tax to stop the richest 1% that are landowners passing on wealth from generation to generation- and removing the elitist landowning class hoarding the wealth and keeping it from being utilized in a proper capitalist system. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2019, 17:27
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10 Dec 2019, 17:27#10

"The integrity of our next election is at risk from our president who already sought foreign interference in the 2016 and now 2020 elections," Nadler said.

Another lie that is going to cost the DP a lot..   The idiot does not realize that the Russians in fact was really in favour of Clinton as President and was undermining the Trump Campaign by feeding false info to discredit him.   After all Clinton herself wrote that she has "direct access to Putin's inner sanctum."    She and the DNC paid for the false Steele Dossier - who was involved in foreign interference in the 2016 election other than the Democrats?

Trump does not need interference  in the 2020 election campaign and the Democrats know that he is going to win - despite the anti Trump campaign of the media.   The want him out of  the way in the hope that in that case they will win the election.

By the way - Trump is not interested in getting Ukraine's assistance in the 2020 - he is interested in preventing US citizens with political connections to get involved in corruption in other countries.    The Biden's are crooks and to even suggest he should be US President is going to increase the corruption nurtured by the Obama Administration.                     

  

 

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 17:35
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10 Dec 2019, 17:35#11

Oupa, there really is only one reason for all of this. The insult caused when Trump ousted a Clinton (Democrat God level) is simply too bitter to swallow. Just like Bill's testicular contents, it cant be swallowed and has to be spat out for all to see. Democrats are still looking for the sugar to remove the bitter taste in their mouths. So is Monica.

I cant say I am a huge fan of Trump but I do think that the current congressional slap fight is all about egos and has nothing to do with anything Trump ever did. Coffin dodger, turtle neck Nadler and 'I took a kilo of speed' Adam Schiff are butt hurt much like the rest of their party...to put it plainly.

Nothing will come of this 'impeachment' except that it will in fact help Trump win again. Democrats are too stupid to realize they are Trump's biggest cheerleaders.


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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 17:44
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10 Dec 2019, 17:44#12

And its also about ONE other thing. Ruth Bader Ginsburg who is the epitome of a coffin dodger is due to check out in the next year or two. Nobody thinks the dithering old bat can make another 4 years.

When she does, Trump will nominate Amy Coney Barrett who would make the beer swilling Brett Kavanaugh look like the chairman of the San Francisco hyper liberal, socialist democrat movement.

This will force the demons to dig up some disgusting fake dirt on a woman which they REALLY want to avoid with everything in their power.

Amy Coney Barrett is against the entire herd of democratic holy cows including gay marriage, legalization of marijuana and unrestricted illegal immigration across our southern borders so they really really want to avoid that. That would stack the supreme court heavily in conservatives favor for a long time to come.

Actually this very thing causes guys like Speed Schiff and Turtle neck Nadler to literally live on imodium due to stress stomach.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2019, 19:10
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10 Dec 2019, 19:10#13

What happened - Ginsburg apparently decided to block release of Trump's financial records?  Is she still a favourite of the Democrats after being a best friend of the late Judge Scalia for years, and after praising the latest two appointments of Trump to the Supreme Court despite the apparent scandal attacks of the DP on Kavenaugh.   I am still waiting for a male appointment of anybody by Trump in any position where the DP does not find a floosie claiming rape by the nominee.    Have they nothing else to blame nominees for?   

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 19:42
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10 Dec 2019, 19:42#14

RBG is a liberal. A little gesture here and there doesn't stop that. Amy Coney Barrett is as conservative as Ginsburg is liberal. This will be Trump's legacy. Absolutely loading the supreme court with conservative justices.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Dec 2019, 19:42
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10 Dec 2019, 19:42#15

“ Posted by: SeagullsStopItNow (12 posts)

Dec 10, 2019, 17:35

Oupa, there really is only one reason for all of this. The insult caused when Trump ousted a Clinton (Democrat God level) is simply too bitter to swallow. ”

I think there is also another factor. The so-called establishments, which also include quite a few Republicans, IMO, also did not see Trump coming. The likes of “departed war hero” John McCain. 

Trump is supposedly a very complex person in many ways. On the one hand - on the surface - he seem to be part of the establishment because he is rich. On the other hand he is actually quite a simple guy with simple principles. 

He did not sit down in 2015, choose a few campaign issues to run on and then go run on them. If you look closely at the many clips that is available on the internet, his campaign issues goes back all the way into the eighties. He had the same views on international trade, taxation, social welfare, etc, that he ran his 2016 campaign on. 

Had he had the media behind him in he same way that they were pushing for him to run for president, decades ago, the USA would have been cooking even more than they are now. 

Just a few of my observations. Your view? 

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 19:52
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10 Dec 2019, 19:52#16

Ceradyn. I agree with your observations. I am a fairly simple dude. I work in pharmaceuticals as a Project Manager. Not going to try claim I am any more than that however, I have a demonstrated strength in business development, especially with regards to pre-RFP strategies and business proposals development.

In my time, I have NEVER witnessed such a ludicrously poor strategy as was Hillary's campaign for the presidency. It was an absolute fatal error to ignore/choose not to respond to Trump's campaign messaging and rather focus on his Access Hollywood tape, size of his hands etc.

In any business campaign whatsoever, who has ever won anything by speaking about their opponent instead of speaking about themselves ?

What a backfire. Add that to the electorate Trump was pandering to and I predicted 6 months in advance that Trump would win. The Obamas and Hillary Clinton were Trump's biggest cheerleaders and they did it for free. His campaign cost a 10th of hers.

Here is an example. The Sharks lost the 2007 Super rugby final in heartbreaking fashion. It's done and dusted and credit to the Bulls but lets face it, it was a stab to the heart. In 2008 they played the Bulls in another final. This time the Currie Cup in Durban. Same venue as the 2007 heart ache. Someone asked Dick Muir how he prepared his side to overcome the demons in their heads and he simply replied that he didn't do anything. The Pretoria newspapers did it all for him. In the week leading up to the final, he plastered the walls of the Sharks changeroom with all the articles coming out of Pretoria saying what chokers they were.

Hillary's campaign was so poor from a strategy perspective, she contributed to Trump's victory instead of taking away from it. But make no mistake, she is thick. I don't quite know how she achieved what she did. Dumb as a doornail.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2019, 20:12
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10 Dec 2019, 20:12#17

Dumb - but as crooked as they come.    I saw a video clip where she was called the Witch from Washington.   Has the Clintons not a long history of people who was near to giving evidence in court dying mysteriously?   

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Dec 2019, 21:05
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10 Dec 2019, 21:05#18
@Seagull, the other thing that I wanted to add was that, looking back into past interviews, it was clear that Trumps campaign issues were not just talking points. They were, and still are, things that he passionately believe in. Other politicians are passionate about things that they think will make them look good. A perfect example was during one of the Dem debates when the candidates were asked to put up their hands if they believed that that illegal, sorry undocumented, immigrants should be entitled to free medical aid. They all started looking around at what the others were doing before one slowly put a hand up and then the others followed one by one like sheep. Trump would never have put his hand up. He would just have told them all that they are fcuking mad.
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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
10 Dec 2019, 21:05
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10 Dec 2019, 21:05#19

Well it's all conspiracy theory at this point but the situation with Jerry Epstein is super suspicious. When you are providing 14 year old girls to rich, powerful men you should prepare yourself for 'deletion' when you get caught. The Clintons love deleting things that don't suit them, delete e-mails, delete people etc. LOL thanks.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Dec 2019, 11:41
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11 Dec 2019, 11:41#20

Trump was the least experienced upper-tier politician when he ran. 

He has outdone the left at every turn since.

They're having to ignore key indicators to keep the charade going. That's the reality of it for them. They're likely scared shitless. 

Trump's been some kind of a miracle case for the US. Once you remove all the spin and look at what matters, they're high and climbing. 

The left are so invested now that it's become a case of knowing you're gonna crash and stepping on the gas just to get it over with.

If the Dems were a plane, the Biden story is one engine in flames. The ongoing impeachment is the fatal failure to maintain the aircraft(public perception) and Hillary is the antithesis of Chesley Sullenberger. AOC and pals being the student passengers, on their way to change to the world...Che t-shirts neatly ironed.

They are correct in calling him an imposter though. I 100% agree with them...

In the company of lies, truth is always an imposter.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
11 Dec 2019, 14:27
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11 Dec 2019, 14:27#21

The interesting thing is that Nancy Pelosi knows that they stuffed up and is now trying to save face by suddenly putting USMCA on the table. I think that they think the US public will not see straight through the bumbling idiot's strategy and tactics. 

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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
11 Dec 2019, 16:28
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11 Dec 2019, 16:28#22

As I grow older my faith in the existence of actual human intellect dwindles more and more. I do not exclude myself from this growing disillusionment with the human race. 

Perhaps it is just social media that feeds it to us every single day but holy crap, people are dumb and easily adopt an opinion based on absolutely nonsense.

I think this is what is going on in the world right now and not only the USA. 

Here is a test: This absolute paragon of intelligence/wonder child Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez actually said that instead of New York giving Amazon a tax break of millions of $ so that they could establish an HQ in New York and bring thousands of high paying jobs to the community, the state should rather spend that money on homeless people. Anyone see the issue ? Some of you liberals that probably agreed with her, draw yourself a picture and let me know if you can see the unadulterated stupidity in her statement. Go !

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Dec 2019, 16:59
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11 Dec 2019, 16:59#23
Skapie, AOC is a hoot! Mad as a bucket of frogs but (like Bozo) very entertaining.
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SeagullsStopItNowRookie43 posts
11 Dec 2019, 17:36
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11 Dec 2019, 17:36#24

Agree Rooi. Whole world is a clown show right now. When your best presidential candidates are caught on camera spraying whipped cream into men’s mouths on their knees, sitting on a child’s swing with another man in their lap and wanting to measure their physical prowess by having a push up competition then you know we are screwed

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Dec 2019, 18:50
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11 Dec 2019, 18:50#25
Haha!
In the words of the Four Yorkshiremen from the Monty Pythin skit, "Well we had it tough!"
Your politicians might be stupid, greedy and weak but they are saints compared to our lot.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Dec 2019, 22:38
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11 Dec 2019, 22:38#26

Rooinek

Could not have bettered you on this one - a real classic.  

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