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Who is actually winning in Ukraine.

Started by Seb10 REPLIES547 VIEWS· 12 Apr 2022, 17:03
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SebPro2,680 posts
12 Apr 2022, 17:03
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12 Apr 2022, 17:03#1

An unbiased analysis by some one who understands strategy.


It appears to be honest and factual.

Bear in mind this is fairly out of date but his speculations at that time are more or less accurate.

Far better than we get from western media which is very shallow and one sided.


https://youtu.be/GmXKNzIYHtk


https://youtu.be/GmXKNzIYHtk


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AJHPro3,183 posts
23 Apr 2022, 17:27
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23 Apr 2022, 17:27#2

At the end of this conflict NO winner will declared.

If Putin wins his standing and his country will forever be accused of war crimes and everything thing else that could possibly be blamed on his actions.

If Ukraine wins their country and economy which is in ruins at this stage will never recover or ever be as it was.

When grown and educated so called intelligent politicians cannot live up to agreements made/agreed or whatever then peace will never ever be made.

The policy of "My way or the Highway" never ever has worked in any political arena and never will unless you come to an agreement and both sides honor that agreement.

Unfortunately this has not happening.

Sad but true.

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Apr 2022, 18:52
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23 Apr 2022, 18:52#3

Arthur, the Civil War is 8 years old and started with the murder of civilians in 2014 and overthrow of a democratic elected government and was continuing and would never stop.

It did not start on 22nd February this year. It was a cancer to eliminate primary Russian people and like a physical cancer needed a painful operation.Otherwise it would never be controlled and eliminated.

Politicians with hidden agendas to bully and weaken Russia have manipulated the context with twisted words...Putin is only interested in Russia and is a fanatical patriot who is proud man and loves his country and it's  people. I get that from my wife and other Russian folk I know and met and I believe that is the most genuine source...certainly not the lying evil propaganda herds of media sycophants.


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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
23 Apr 2022, 20:15
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23 Apr 2022, 20:15#4

So because your wife says the opposite of what the mainstream reality is, that means everyone who disagrees is a media sycophant? 

It is the same old story...religious far-right people are authoritarian in nature, so they support dictators. They are not Westerners or 21st-century people and are just relics from a bygone era. 
They should all pack their stuff and go live in Russia...
Pretty much the same crew as the anti-vaxxers. 


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 02:41
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25 Apr 2022, 02:41#5

Agreed, the same people who support Putin are anti vaxxers and  far right.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Apr 2022, 06:36
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25 Apr 2022, 06:36#6

Denny, most anti vaxxers I know are people of color...and the ANC and their ilk are strong Putin supporters.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Apr 2022, 06:39
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25 Apr 2022, 06:39#7

PS, I condemn this war in the strongest terms and Puitin for starting it, but I do believe that the West could have done much more to prevent it...instead of supporting it, more can be done to stop it.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 07:35
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25 Apr 2022, 07:35#8

Sure, b ut the ANC does not preach the gospel and load this forum with pious and sanctimonious irrelevances while at the same time justifying the credibility of a warmonger. Tell me, when did Christianity and war became bedfellows?

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
25 Apr 2022, 08:50
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25 Apr 2022, 08:50#9

Your kidding right christianity and war have been bedfellows since it was invented

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Apr 2022, 09:13
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25 Apr 2022, 09:13#10
this statement is rubbish… “Agreed, the same people who support Putin are anti vaxxers and far right.“ this response is true… “Denny, most anti vaxxers I know are people of color...and the ANC and their ilk are strong Putin supporters.” this response to that response is par for the course in coming from a sensitive lady. so eager to achieve parity that she rushes out of the gate, stumbles over her dress and hopes people will be polite enough to look away as she gathers herself… “ Sure, but the ANC does not preach the gospel and load this forum with pious and sanctimonious irrelevances while at the same time justifying the credibility of a warmonger. Tell me, when did Christianity and war became bedfellows? Haha you weasel.
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SebPro2,680 posts
25 Apr 2022, 17:55
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25 Apr 2022, 17:55#11

https://youtu.be/A24Q0IXy5zw

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