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Why are they LYING about Ukraine conflict?

Started by Seb37 REPLIES861 VIEWS· 23 Apr 2022, 13:54
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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Apr 2022, 13:54
#1
23 Apr 2022, 13:54#1

The west is being duped, sinister?


Nice to see this honest couple from USA coming out with it..



https://youtu.be/zzsf8O5e1Rk

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Apr 2022, 15:07
#2
23 Apr 2022, 15:07#2

Not sure why but I suspect if russian media told the truth he might find a pitch fork up his date.

Why do you think he is a lying piece of murderous shit?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Apr 2022, 15:44
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23 Apr 2022, 15:44#3

So what is the media in the USA doing  - when they ever speak the truth about news or political issues it is purely by accident and not intended at all.   I don't trust any media in an y country and if  they write  anything thinking people would do research to find what really the case is only really brainwashed idiots believe hat they write,   

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Apr 2022, 16:06
#4
23 Apr 2022, 16:06#4

Brilliant, coming from the man that will swallow any conspiracy no matter how fuckin insane bwahahaha.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Apr 2022, 16:07
#5
23 Apr 2022, 16:07#5

I don't believe everything about either side but I know people are dying on a cunts orders. 

And for that the prick should hang

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
23 Apr 2022, 16:16
#6
23 Apr 2022, 16:16#6

Imagine being so anti-Western you support Putin...

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Apr 2022, 16:20
#7
23 Apr 2022, 16:20#7

Unfortunately the world is full of the mental impaired that will support any fuckwit that comes along.

Won't be long before the lunatics are running the asylum 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Apr 2022, 17:05
#8
23 Apr 2022, 17:05#8

It amazes me that South Africans who have been raised  to deplore the crimes in WW2 can side with a bully who is willing to literally destroy a country for his own selfish ends. Any mistreatment of Russians in the Ukraine pales in comparison with the death and destruction this man has unleashed.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
23 Apr 2022, 17:05
#9
23 Apr 2022, 17:05#9

Not sure what you been up to the last 18 months Crusty.

I will update you.

These lunatics that you refer to have been in power in the White House since January 2021.

Those are the Goons, Clowns and anti Westerners that all fall under the "Lunatic" category.

Feeling better now that I have brought you to speed.

Sorry I used the word "speed" as the speed you know comes in a different form. 

Moron.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Apr 2022, 17:09
#10
23 Apr 2022, 17:09#10

Good point Arthur…..right and wrong in the world can’t be defined by left and right. Both groups are capable of spectacularly stupid behaviour.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
23 Apr 2022, 17:49
#11
23 Apr 2022, 17:49#11

At least you realise your a moron, I give you some credit for recognising the and have the balls to sign off a post as such.

Congrats

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Apr 2022, 17:58
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23 Apr 2022, 17:58#12

What conspiracy theories I swallowed?  The real major conspiracy theory was the Russiangate scandal created by the Democrats and circulated to the media - enough to catch the idiots lock, stock and barrel.     Then there is the protection racket with regard to the Covid pandemic origin.   That theory was a desperate effort to spare China criticism by the ultra-corrupt Biden crime family.      You swallowed both totally so who is the brainwashed idiot on site? 

I made a study of both sides of stories and 90% of the time identify BS easily.   You swallowed it wholesale.  

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SebPro2,680 posts
23 Apr 2022, 18:17
#13
23 Apr 2022, 18:17#13
It is so predictable that the cancel culture Bots on this forum are as regular as clockwork when you raise certain challenges that the status quo, woke cults, and political correctness aren't programmed to accept.
These poor minds are captured and owned by something else that masters them.

Poor souls.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Apr 2022, 22:48
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23 Apr 2022, 22:48#14

The poor souls are in the Ukraine.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
24 Apr 2022, 00:37
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24 Apr 2022, 00:37#15

Cancel culture Bots

That would be Russia trying to cancel out Ukraine's culture.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
24 Apr 2022, 02:28
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24 Apr 2022, 02:28#16



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Apr 2022, 11:20
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24 Apr 2022, 11:20#17

There is no way Russia wants to incorporate Ukraine into Russia - they are trying to ensure protection of the Russian Speaking residents in area where there are more Russians than Ukrainians residents.    The fact is the Ukrainians after the coup in 2014 continued with a civil war  despite the Minsk accord and in the process over  18 000  people died.  Of those 80% of the deaths were Russian speaking civilians and the rest soldiers.   Russian speaking people got fined w hen they speak Russian in public and Russian was banned  in schools - why Russian speaking members of Parliament were arrested and all opposition parties were banned - all indicated a situations where the oppression of Russian residents were total and continued attacks on civilians was a fact of life, while reporting of it in the EU and USA media was never undertaken.    .   

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SebPro2,680 posts
24 Apr 2022, 13:01
#18
24 Apr 2022, 13:01#18

I've never seen such an embarrassing spectacle...of approximately a country of 350 million people they chose this as a leader and they say the world is sane ??

https://youtu.be/V0vEYrDBdvQ

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Apr 2022, 16:51
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24 Apr 2022, 16:51#19

The difference is Biden is constrained by institutions, critical evaluation, processes, laws and the rights of the States. Not perfectly, but the constraints are real. Putin is virtually unconstrained.

And nobody on this Board thinks Biden is  a competent president. But a small cadre of you, primarily you and silly Mike think Putin is a great leader. Which is a puzzle. 

I understand your loyalty to your wife and her culture.I actually admire Russia in the sciences and the arts. But this man represents none of that. Since Stalin nobody has done more to reinforce Russia’s image as a rogue nation.

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SebPro2,680 posts
25 Apr 2022, 00:23
#20
25 Apr 2022, 00:23#20

All I want to add is lying, hypocrisy, deceit, manipulation and interference in others business has bad results eventually. What ever you sow in life you ultimately reap, that's one you can be absolutely certain of.

Speculating on what media is presented to propagate certain mind control is foolish, I prefer to be patient. We will sooner or later find out. The sad thing is that it often causes denial in weaker men.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 01:13
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25 Apr 2022, 01:13#21

"...I prefer to be patient".......really? ...seems like a strange kind of patience after telling this forum for years that your Russian wife and her Russian friends tells you what to think. I get it.......those who disagree with you, those who believe Putin is a weak man,  a bully and a warmonger have and are being brainwashed by the western media. You in turn are being brainwashed by your Russian wife and her friends. And  to you that's acceptable. Frankly I'd be embarrassed if I were you. Wouldn't it be fair to say that being Russian  they'd be suffering just a wee bit of bias?.....wait on....I'm being sarcastic.......I'm saying a wee bit. 

Get my drift? I doubt it.

What manner of man are you? For years you've used this platform to expound on your religious beliefs but yet now you dismiss the misery, hardship, death and destruction of innocents young and old under the banner of "war is an ugly business." Is that what Jesus Christ is telling you? Not once in all of your posts on this very subject have you popped a single nerve to show any sympathy and empathy for the victims of this unjustified war.

You're a sick man.......you and your cadres. 

And Mike, I'm just a little tired of your BS .....I regard you and BongBoy as one of SubstantialFool's cadres.

Tx to those of you who bring sanity and decency to the subject.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Apr 2022, 01:52
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25 Apr 2022, 01:52#22
Imagine being an unsophisticated girl with an axe to grind…imagine being Tante. Tante, be honest now, how many times did your head see the inside of a toilet bowl during your school days? Can you still hear the laughter and does it still confuse you?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 02:19
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25 Apr 2022, 02:19#23

"And nobody on this Board thinks Biden is  a competent president.'

True.

"Since Stalin nobody has done more to reinforce Russia’s image as a rogue nation."

Well said.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
25 Apr 2022, 09:01
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25 Apr 2022, 09:01#24

Well said Moz for once we are in agreement. 

It astounds me that many on here think Biden sits in the oval office making policy and dictating the course of the nation.

You do know that most leaders are more figure heads (trump included, as if that fool has the brain power to run a country let alone a toilet block.

The difference with putin is he has none of the constraints placed on western leaders. He obviously  can dictate whatever he wants and no one can object without disappearing to a gulag or getting murdered.

Anyone that supports the Ukraine  invasion and mass murder of innocent people has no moral consciousness 

When will we learn that war is not the answer

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SebPro2,680 posts
25 Apr 2022, 13:00
#25
25 Apr 2022, 13:00#25

Nobody of sane mind enjoys war, conflict and suffering, period.

But conflicts come when terms are breached and ignored, conflicts come too when there is no understanding, no respect or reasonableness, fairness too. Conflicts come when motives and agendas are hidden in darkness and no trust. Conflicts come from lack of true discernment and blindness and lack of understanding or knowledge of history and traditions.

We are all different and have different insights and values.

The major problem in all these things lie deep-rooted in all human beings, every single one of us, we all guilty to a lesser or greater degree. We don't own up and come clean, we hang on to bitterness, hatred, the wrong type of pride (self centred), we are hypocrites every one of us.

There is NOT a perfect man or woman, we are are all guilty of sin before a perfect God, we all fail to pass. That's precisely what is the real deep-rooted problem. There is only one solution and that is genuine repentance of our sins (turning away from what we know is wrong) and have the courage, honesty and humility to recognise it, own up before a God who readily forgives us, when He became flesh and died in our place (and the whole world's iniquities) at the cross at Golgotha. This is God's gift of salvation, but like all gift's it only only becomes ours if we accept it. there are always choices in life, free choice, we have them, no God never forces you to believe...it's your choice. To die without God's freely given grace is to spend eternity without Him...no that's not tripe or a fairy tale...it makes just good common sense.

The war is bad, but it did NOT start in February this year...it has been going on for 8 years and would have continued and continued until the ROOT cause has been erased.

And the truth is Neo Nazism is very real, it is alive and well you better believe it.

It is rooted in very dark cult of hatred...hatred of true Jews, Russians, Asians, dark skinned nations...it kills people en masse, it does not matter whether babies, women and men.

It is not human, cannot love, show mercy or forgive...it is ruthless in it's hatred. Pure evil, Satanic, anti- Christ.

Hypocrisy is Iraq War (no weapons of mass destruction, it was a shocking lie ) approx. 600, 000 civilians kllled by a greedy Hegemonic country, bombing, indiscriminately Belgrade by Nato and Bill Clinton govt for no reason whatsoever...etc etc. A country that rips and aborts babies by the millions. A country that dropped 2 atomic bombs on 2 large cities of Japan...hundreds of thousands of civilians died instantly and many more later of horrible cancers.

I ask you please not to raise this subject again. It is too sensitive for me and like you all, don't have ALL the answers and understanding, so do I.

Rugby, cricket and sport, entertainment is good for soul...these subjects are not.





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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2022, 13:48
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25 Apr 2022, 13:48#26
"I ask you please not to raise this subject again. It is too sensitive for me . . ."
Tit, I think I speak for all the other posters when I say that we'll raise whatever topics we feel like raising especially if they're topical and relevant . . . and if you're too sensitive then rather keep your trap shut and stop clicking on topics that make you burst into tears.
It's not like anyone is going to miss your self-righteous bible-bashing anyway.
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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
25 Apr 2022, 13:54
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25 Apr 2022, 13:54#27

Substantial Fool, So God instructed Putin to create Satan2?

If mankind does or does not end in nuclear war, it will be entirely our own doing, not an omnipresent God.

Satan2 is probably named on a religious basis to represent the West. It is God's will to kill Satan...

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 14:15
#28
25 Apr 2022, 14:15#28

I reckon he's been dopping.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
25 Apr 2022, 14:27
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25 Apr 2022, 14:27#29

He asks everyone not to mention the subject, but he has created more posts about the topic than anyone else. 

If someone criticiz es his master Putin, Substantial Fool cries.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 14:35
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25 Apr 2022, 14:35#30

Oh boy, he sure has some likes......there's Putin and Trump and then there's the dop, somewhere in between is God......

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
25 Apr 2022, 14:38
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25 Apr 2022, 14:38#31

His God is clearly the worm at the bottom of the Tequila bottle. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 14:46
#32
25 Apr 2022, 14:46#32

It won't be Tequila...nope ....the missus won't allow that......it would have to be Vodka by the case load

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Apr 2022, 14:56
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25 Apr 2022, 14:56#33

On a serious note I suspect the invasion is going to backfire on Putrid. There's just one too many of the Oligarchs who's bank accounts have been burnt. Money speaks and moves mountains, something has to give, it won't happen overnite but give and take a couple of years and I reckon he'll lose the endgame.

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sharkbokCaptain23,202 posts
25 Apr 2022, 15:43
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25 Apr 2022, 15:43#34
The Ruckersforum "Voice of Putin" has been silenced...
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SebPro2,680 posts
25 Apr 2022, 15:55
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25 Apr 2022, 15:55#35
More speculated untruths, no I'm certainly not drunk and seldom have no more than a glass or two of wine on some evenings and yes war I've been in and not sensitive about it but how I try to look after my wife's sensitivities and yes I've seen comrades die in Angola and in Rhodesia. I doubt if Denny, Rooinek and Shark ever have been in the forces...they are clearly shit-scared cowards on how they portray themselves here.

There is going to mountains of egg with some on this forum, covered from head to toe...we'll see.Just hope the scornful will have a drop of humility to admit it when it comes...but what is apparent from past history, I doubt it...it will be swept under the forum's already pungent carpet. ...as I said too much lying propaganda on this particular topic and past u nadmitted and denials of errors on several other topics in the past and deceit which you sad souls swallow without question.

Know exactly who those are...they will pop up as they cannot restrain themselves.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
26 Apr 2022, 15:34
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26 Apr 2022, 15:34#36
". . . and seldom have no more than a glass or two of wine . . ."
Hmmm . . . if it's seldom that Tit has no more than a glass or two . . . then I guess it's usual that he has a lot more than that. 
Certainly explains the quality of his posts!
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Apr 2022, 02:31
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27 Apr 2022, 02:31#37

Scroll through any of SebstantialFools posts and see if you can find one, just one post where he criticizes Putin for the horror he's caused in the Ukraine.......I'll be very surprised if there is one. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Apr 2022, 03:50
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27 Apr 2022, 03:50#38

Lets put this straight - I do not support  actions by Putin - he is the  Russian leader though and not a dictator in the normal sense of he word.   He has constitutional restraints - but I do not like the Russian Parliament giving him an exception from the two term maximum he can serve.  Putin is not a lunatic - neither is he an idiot.

I despise Biden - he pretended to be a democratically-minded President - but in the process he is desperate to destroy Democracy in the USA.    He has been issuing strings of mandates and the Democratically controlled House supports him all out - while two members of he Senate does not support his lunatic and dementia-ridden idiocies.    Fact is that everything the Biden Administration touched has turned into shit.     He has done more damage as a front for the lunatics actually ruining  the country - he is not even allowed to answer questions in public.   The latest example  was when the Eater Bunny told him not to answer questions - since when he does he creates chaos.   

As Mozart said - there are constraints in the USA - but that is outside of the Democratic Party.    The Supreme Court  and other courts have ruled against many of his mandates - but his puppet-masters  tend to ignore rulings and tries to get around them.    The objective now is to pack the Supreme Court with Democrat judges to ensure whatever the lunatics ruining the USA  would decide would  not  be restrained by  the US Constitution - thus destroying the Constitution  itself and consequently human rights of US citizens.   .    

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