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Liarmike permanent lying thread 2

Started by Mozart21 REPLIES838 VIEWS· 27 Oct 2018, 23:08
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Oct 2018, 23:08
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27 Oct 2018, 23:08#1
The old thread was hijacked, so it's time to start a new permanent thread....just. Pure Tokkie lies please. Here's the first one on the new string posted today: 'Players like Louw, Vermeulen, Burger and Alberts never made more than 10 to 12 tackles a game. For that reason you invented the mystery term "process tackles" in a n effort to cover up for the deficiencies of your favoured players'
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Oct 2018, 23:24
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27 Oct 2018, 23:24#2
Just one rebuttal Burger at the 2015 WC......16 tackles/1 miss vs Wales....13 tackles/1 miss against NZ. Burger in particular was a tackling machine.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Oct 2018, 00:29
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28 Oct 2018, 00:29#3

2015, Australia. Burger 20/1. Too bad, such an heroic effort couldn't compensate for the Highwayman. 

The following week against New Zealand, again 13/1. This was in the abbreviated RC. Brussow had 14/1, just out of interest.

Samoa: Burger 9/1, Louw 8/0. It was a low tackling game for the Boks as Samoa only had 39% possession. Victor was 8/0 and stopped a breakout try after a poor Willie chip earlier in the first half when they were threatening more. So, three of our maligned players were doing the bulk of the defending, a considerable amount of tackles considering how few attacks Samoa carried out. 

Scotland: Another WC fixture. Burger 14/3, Louw 10/0. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2018, 00:51
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28 Oct 2018, 00:51#4
Point made Augie.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 11:57
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28 Oct 2018, 11:57#5

So the WC is the norm - playing 4 games against weak teams set the norm.   Use the RC since 2012 if you want to prove anything.   I looked at Louw in the RC this year and  that was enough.

One has to be careful to write anything on site - since the deceivers will always try to distort it to prove some disconnected point.    Biggest liar ever was Mozart - proven a thousand times over.    Ask Rooinek as well, he can give a long list of constant l;ies y Mozart.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2018, 15:57
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28 Oct 2018, 15:57#6
The amusing thing is, I have never lied, never posted under a false name and never edited a post win an argument. That would make the game boring. But in the last few days Rooinek edited his post on Trump's supposed NK involvement and you came up with this easily debunked lie. And we all know some of the many false identities Urinal has adopted. Never in 18 years vs a constant stream of lies, false identities and now dishonest edits. What's wrong with you chaps......if you have no honour on a site like this, one shudders to think of what your dealings are like in the real world. Dishonesty is a human trait that brings down the quality of life for all. But you will be exposed for the fraud you are on here...so think about changing your MO.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 16:20
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28 Oct 2018, 16:20#7

You have never lied - coming from the biggest liar I have come across that is rich.

You started fraudulent threads and is a proven mathematical abuser - just look at the stunts you tried to get at the present Springboks compared to the 2014 player performances. 

You make lying claims about players and when caught out you suddenly say it is your opinion.   That is not good enough.  

Aside from that you constantly brag on site about meeting with people and your constant attacks on others are always based on disinformation.   Your HR is shot and I wonder how you manage ever to get and hold onto jobs with the vicious characteristics you display.

Lastly - you are prejudiced against  a long list of rugby players and the lies you "discover"  about them has been exposed time and again.

I have tried recently not to attack you and others personally on site - and all I get in return is vicious continuous attacks.   Sorry - I respected you a lot initially - but you have turned into a vicious and rabid  mongrel.         

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2018, 16:35
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28 Oct 2018, 16:35#8
Saying somebody is a poor tackler is an opinion.....some opinions are right, some turn out to be wrong. Saying somebody never makes more than 12 tackles in a match, when one can easily verify he does, is a lie. Stop lying or accept the consequences. Oh and if you can find one lie I have told, post it.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 16:48
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28 Oct 2018, 16:48#9

Mozart

Just a string of lies about me personally is enough to fill 20 books.   

I can start about the weekly reports on injuries to Goosen  you posted when he was still playing for the Cheetahs is enough - especially since he was never injured when you claimed he was.  I can go on about the lies you wrote week after week about Du Toit - the story about a long neck, thin shoulders and thin wrists are so far removed from fact that is unbelievable.

Then there was the recent claims that you, AO and Pakie are such good analysts that you see some things nobody else see or commented on - normally so distorted that it must be lies.  



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2018, 17:33
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28 Oct 2018, 17:33#10
Not lies look at any Bok photograph ....you will find them for every game on Genslin Springbok rugby. The point of Stephanie's shoulder.....the point of rotation......is a good 2 inches below big locks like Etzebeth and Snyman and more in line with the loosies.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 17:43
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28 Oct 2018, 17:43#11

Mozart

Looking at what photographs?   Was it a photo of Mafield with the head of Du Tooit interposed on it?

You are talking Kak as per normal.   Looking at the Bok photos and seeing the measurement between the level of the chin and the top of the jersey it is clear that Etzebeth has  longer neck than Du Toit and the fact is there is no photographic evidence which proofs that you are not lying about Du Toit. 

By the way what about "process tackles"?   Why do the players your dislike make  "process tackles" and the duds you support make "tackles".    There is not a player in the game of rugby who consistently make strong tackles even you may think so.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2018, 17:57
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28 Oct 2018, 17:57#12
Look at the Bok team photo vs the USA at the WC.....useful because there is a background line at the shoulder and another just below the top of the nut. Stephanie is exactly the same height as Vermeulen at the shoulder, but a good 2 inches higher at the top of the head.....all in his long neck. That said he is much closer to Vermeulen in size than to Lomp or Etzebeth.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 18:44
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28 Oct 2018, 18:44#13

Listen - if you do not realize that you are spreading shit you will never know.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 18:44
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28 Oct 2018, 18:44#14

Listen - if you do not realize that you are spreading shit you will never know.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Oct 2018, 19:30
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28 Oct 2018, 19:30#15

Is this how ridiculous the discussions are going to be? Mike. Seriously? The length of Steph's neck? I bet if Moz said he had two feet you'd find a contrary interpretation. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Oct 2018, 19:54
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28 Oct 2018, 19:54#16

No - I do not like maligning anybody based on make-believe BS made up by anybody with psychologically  sick intentions.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Oct 2018, 20:07
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28 Oct 2018, 20:07#17

Psychologically sick intentions? I think you are taking this way too far. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2018, 22:28
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28 Oct 2018, 22:28#18
http://www.genslin.us/bokke/RWC2015USA.jpg ....all the proof needed.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Oct 2018, 01:12
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29 Oct 2018, 01:12#19

Nutcase - your interpretation is as per normal BS.   Looking at the shoulders the tallest guy is DE Jager - with Etzebeth shoulder height is very little above De Toit's  - but he is taller than Du Toit.   The longer neck is there for anyone to see, Your interpretation of the height of the shoulders of Vermeulen is also out if the photo is taken into account. Du Toit is at ;east 2 inches taller at the start of the neck.

Anybody the neck length is total BS - an interpretation only you thrive in.   What is worse is the thin shoulders and thin wrists BS.  

Listen Mozart you lied about it based on a photo you misrepresented. totally.

Furhter - your constant demigrating of Du Toit is what one can only describe as sickness of your mind.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Oct 2018, 02:10
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29 Oct 2018, 02:10#20
You mean the fact that I pointed out that his first penalty put the test at risk....and the penalty to Koch when he failed to support his run was the nail in our coffin? Those 'demigrations'. Guilty and guilty of not buying into all the hype. That doesn't mean he never had a good game against NZ in Wellington. He did and I rated him accordingly. As for the photo look again....look at the top of Vermeulen's forehead, his hair is piled up, Stephanie's is tight to the scalp. The height difference is at least 5 cms, more like 7cms the official height difference. Now look at the top of the yellow collar at the base of the neck. Vermeulen's collar stops on the line...Stephanie's starts on the line. So the difference at the base of the neck is the height of Stephanie's collar....2 cms, max 3 cms. That's also the max difference at the point of the shoulder, probably less. So the difference in height should be 3 cms max, it's 7cms.....that's the neck difference 4cms probably 5. Stephanie is a tall loosie masquerading as lock. He is a much smaller man than Snyman, Lomp or Eben. So he needs to be a great lineout jumper. And he isn't. Oddly enough sitting down though in the later pics he is shorter than Kolisi and no taller than Pollard....so he must be a bit gangly in the legs, perhaps that contributes to his inability to change direction.... hahaha. This is resolving all sorts of questions....could this be a new science of performance prediction? That in a nutshell is why he is stuck somewhere between loosie and lock. Stuck there after 5years of being told he is the heir apparent at 5.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Oct 2018, 02:49
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29 Oct 2018, 02:49#21

Listen at least in one case above you are talking utter shit as per normal.  The Koch incident was normal and done 50 times per game in matches.  Du Touit was supporting his run and the idiocy to blame him for the penalty is your standard BS,

You are mad to base things entirely on one photo and then misinterpreted the whole scenario totally.

How childish can you become.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Oct 2018, 05:15
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29 Oct 2018, 05:15#22
So it's normal for the supporter to fall over his own feet and drag down the player he is supposed to clean out over....got it.
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