MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jul 2019, 16:02#2
A very narrow view, there is this interesting new development:
'The latest development and preferred method for timing racing pigeons is the Electronic Timing System. The bird's arrival is recorded automatically. When using an electronic system, the pigeon fancier does not even have to be at the loft to clock the birds as they return.[8] Birds are fitted with a band that has a tiny RFID chip in it which can be read when the bird comes home. At the home loft the electronic scanning records the pigeons arrival. The pad or antenna is placed at the entry point to the loft entrance and as the pigeon crosses it the electronic band is scanned. The clock is attached to the antennas. The serial number of the transponder ring is recorded along with the time of arrival. This is very similar to transponder timing systems used in human races.'
Denny I see the possible new developments we were discussing are actually a reality.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jul 2019, 22:09#3
Have watched this bog ordinary stage now, Impey saw off some kid after the peloton miscalculated. And Creeper rates that ahead of one of the great Wimbledon finals and the most dramatic cricket WC final ever..
And in Stage 10 today, the Imp finished number 126. Parochial doesn't begin to capture this sports noob's emotional twaddle.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2019, 09:37#4
"And in Stage 10 today, the Imp finished number 126."
Wehe . . . the levels of ignorance are truly astounding . . . even for a stupid person.
Where does one start? I mean seriously, where do I start . . . do I try explain to Moffie the difference between a flat stage and a mountain stage? Do I try explain to him that in any Grand Tour there are only a handful of riders who care what position they finish in . . . and only a handful of very different type of riders who care how much time they lose on each stage? Do I try explain how the Green Jersey scoring works? Do I try explain how the General Classification works? Do I try explain that when the great Peter Sagan finished stone last on a stage a few days ago that it was no big deal and it doesn't mean he's a bad rider . . . or even had a bad day? Likewise if Geraint Thomas had to roll in stone last on a bunch sprint stage but finished in the pelo ton and didn't lose even a second to his GC rivals, would he care?
Where does one start?
I don't have a problem with anyone being ignorant of how cycling Grand Tours work . . . it's not everyone's cup of tea and I'm sure there are plenty of people who care as much about cycling Grand Tours as I care about Womens Doubles tennis . . . but why opine about a sport when you are clearly so massively iognorant about it? That's when it upgrades from ignorance to rank stupidity.
"And in Stage 10 today, the Imp finished number 126."
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!
As for where to start, I think I'll just answer my own question and say it's not worth starting at all. Moffie should stick to watching pigeons.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2019, 09:53#5
It's a rest day today but we'll start seeing the GC contenders coming to the fore from Thursday onwards. Tomorrow should be another day for the sprinters (or the breakaway) but Thursday is the first of the Pyrenean stages followed on Friday by the individual time trial and then more climbs in the Pyrenees on Saturday before they head off towards the Alps and the key GC stages of this year's Tour that will determine the winner of the Maillot Jaune.
As predicted, Peter Sagan is cleaning up in the Green Jersey comp and doesn't look to have any serious challengers.
Meanwhile the Polka Dot jersey is completely up in the air and the rider I tipped to win it - Julian Alaphilippe - has had a major distraction to his King of the Mountains ambitions in the form of the Yellow Jersey which he has now worn for 3 out the last 5 days . . . interrupted by another Polka Dot Jersey candidate in Giulio Ciccone who wore it for 2 days. I suspect both riders will slip out of the GC rankings when the really big climbs start and they'll focus more on King of the Mountains points . . . but Alaphilippe is already some distance behind the two Belgians from the Lotto Soudal team Tim Wellens (43 pts) and Thomas de Gendt (37 pts) . . . so he will literally have a mountain to climb!
Egan Bernal took over the White Jersey from Ciccone after yesterday's stage when the pelo ton split up because of the wind and I don't see him losing it from here on in.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2019, 15:11#7
Team Sunweb had the numbers entering the final kilometre, but they were soon swamped when the pure sprinters opened for the line. This appeared to catch Matthews out, with the Australian seemingly looking for wheels rather than clear air, but there was no uncertainty for Van Aert. The young Belgian has taken the WorldTour by storm, but the last few weeks have been something else, even by his standards. A time trial win and a sprint stage at the Dauphine have now been topped by a Tour de France stage win.
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'When the pure sprinters opened for the line'.....except one sprinter who finished 126. Obviously not ingesting enough contaminated gel caps. Waaaaaaaaaaah.....game, set and match.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2019, 15:17#8
Back to the more interesting racing.....the pigeons. Even though the electronic timing is undoubtedly more efficient, it takes away a skill.....getting the bird down and the ring in the clock. To me that takes away so much of the tension. Not much point looking for high birds, keeping an ear for that rapid beating of the wings.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2019, 15:24#9
My goodness you are an ignorant dolt. The peloton split into pieces yesterday due to the crosswinds. The fastest sprinter at this year's Tour is Dylan Groenewegen who ended up in the 3rd group and finished nowhere. How much of a noob do you have to be to think he's now a poor rider? Thibaut Pinot was in 3rd place in the GC and he also missed the front pelo ton and lost over a minute in the GC.
Oh and Darryl Impey is not a pure sprinter. His role in the team is twofold . . . to lead out Matteo Trentin and to try and win stages. He's already won his stage . . . only the second South African after Robbie Hunter to do so . . . so even if he had to abandon the Tour it will go down as a huge success.
If you weren't a complete Tour noob you'd also know that neither Trentin or Impey would have been particularly interested in yesterday's satge as it was too flat. Trentin excels when it's a more difficult finish with a few hills. Even without the splits in the peleton, only the massively ignorant would have expected Trentin or Impey to feature.
Let me know if you need more schooling, dumbo . . . otherwise stick to watching pigeons.
LMAO!
PS Glad to see I've got you following this year's Tour, Moffie. I'm guessing this is the keenest you've ever followed the event . . . but good luck trying to hold your own in any discussions because it's blindingly obvious that you're a complete noob. There are some topics where you have a clear edge on me . . . like boy-scout camps, bankrupting companies, concrete gargoyles and bragging . . . but Grand Tours is not one of them. Keep trying though, it's funny to see you reading up on articles and then making a gigantic fool of yourself trying to put that very limited knowledge into context. It's even funnier than your rugby "insights"!
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2019, 15:47#10
Missed this one . . .
"Impey saw off some kid after the peloton miscalculated. "
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!
I've seen the peleton miscalculate by a few seconds where the breakaway rider/s hold on by a few seconds but I don't think that I or anyone else has ever seen the peleton "miscalculate" by . . . ummmm . . . 16 minutes!
Hilarious that some buffoon might think the peleton "miscalculated" to that extent.
When the breakaway wins by more than a minute or two, it's because there was no-one in the breakaway group threatening the GC so the peleton would have sat back and let them fight out the finish. This is all covered in Tour de France 101 . . . but keep sharing your wisdom Moffie, I'm literally laughing out loud!
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2019, 17:18#11
Moffie, use your imagination and paint us a scenario where the peloton would have "miscalculated" to the extent that the breakaway won by over 16 minutes.
Here's my effort . . . picture the scene . . . there's 90km to go and the breakaway is still 9 minutes ahead. The leaders of the GC and sprint teams are having a discussion at the head of the pelo ton.
Scenario 1
Geraint: Hey Jakob, Peter and Caleb, you guys want to reel this breakaway in, right?
Peter: Yes, but I can't remember if it's 1 minute we gain every 10km if we push it or if it's 5 minutes we gain every 10km?
Caleb: I think it's 1 minute . . . my minds gone a bit blank . . . Jakob?
Jakob: I'm pretty sure it's 5 minutes every 10km so we can relax.
Geraint: Cool . . . take it easy everyone, we'll speed it up in another 40km or so.
Scenario 2
Geraint: Hey Jakob, Peter and Caleb, you guys want to reel this breakaway in, right?
Peter: Yes, we may need to speed up. So what is 90 divided by 10?
Caleb: I think it's 9 but I'm not sure . . . Jakob?
Jakob: No, 90 divided by 10 is 15 so we can relax, we've got plenty of time.
Geraint: Cool, take it easy everyone, we'll speed it up in another 40km or so.
LMAO!
Come on then Moffie, your turn!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2019, 21:23#13
Hahahaha .....what's the fishing expression, hook, line and sinker.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Jul 2019, 22:14#14
Wehe . . . his pathetic arselicking little Servile Gimp gives him a life-raft to clutch onto and Moffie grabs it gratefully!
Your Servile Gimp might believe that you were fishing but you and I both know that you got an enormous load of egg all over your fat stupid face again, don't we Moffie?
Still waiting for your scenario of how the pelo ton might "miscalculate" by 16 minutes!
LMAO!
That is a keeper!
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jul 2019, 23:25#15
Number 126......for your hero....there's your keeper. The poor chap is averaging around 56th place.That and thinking the Imp's win was more noteworthy than the CWC final and Fed vs the Joker.
Peeper struggling to shift the debate....while being played for the gullible fool he is. Waaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha!
Reminds me a bit of the Zedone and Dusted debacle.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Jul 2019, 01:28#17
Speaking about training, I used my pocket money to buy our first pigeon from the local pet shop. He was put in a brown paper bag and I carried him home. On the way I decided to call him Ace.
My father's reactions to Ace were similar to my reactions to Impey's 124th placing....not very enthusiastic. He mused that Ace might not even be a homing pigeon. Discouraging, but I set about homing the lad, although truth to tell Ace really didn't seem like he wanted to fly very much.
Finally the day came for our first training flight.....a short 5 mile flip from the next village. All the birds were back in a trice.....all the birds except Ace. After many hours as the light was fading, when we had given up hope, Ace finally arrived looking thoroughly bushed.
So that was it, we never had the heart to send him out again....and he spent the rest of his life comfortably living out his days in the loft and taking very short afternoon flights for exercise.
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
17 Jul 2019, 10:33#21
"Now where were we before we were rudely interrupted, Moz?"
Hmmm . . . let's see . . . Moffie was getting egg all over his fat stupid face, Draadtrekker was trying to shove his entire head up Moffie's arse, I was posting about the Tour de France and you were spitefully and childishly doing your best to change the subject that I started into a discussion on pigeons.
Think that covers everyone involved on this thread . . . carry on. No need to thank me, I live to give.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Jul 2019, 15:49#23
Ah the mating season......I like your pigeon version of Shakespeare's seven ages of man Denny. After the dull molting season, the mystery and dare I say science of the mating season. The quest for the perfect bird.