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Started by Rooinek11 REPLIES1,009 VIEWS· 09 Jun 2020, 17:54
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
09 Jun 2020, 17:54
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09 Jun 2020, 17:54#1

Check out this clip of a 75 year old man being shoved to the ground by Buffalo police . . . 




And here's Bozo's tweet regarding the incident . . .

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrumpBuffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?2:34 PM · Jun 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone


Can you believe this? The 75 year old man "fell harder than was pushed" . . . after he hit his head and started bleeding? And Bozo thinks it's a "set up"?

Hard to believe.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jun 2020, 18:07
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09 Jun 2020, 18:07#2

Tragic, and totally unnecessary, but WTH was he thinking?


PS...yet again a Dem-run City. Peculiar pattern is clear for all, including the blind to see.

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sharkbokCaptain23,198 posts
09 Jun 2020, 18:17
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09 Jun 2020, 18:17#3
Either that was a very old person that just did not realise where he was, or he was a protestor looking to get attention.

It depends on the situation.  If it was already violent, then the military or police should be holding their area and preventing people from getting into this. 
In terms of protocol, it just depends if this was right for this situation. If so the police are following orders. 

However, if there had not been any violence before this, then it does seem very out of place to push an old man to the floor for no reason. 
Their needs to be more investigation of who this old man was - and what his background was. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jun 2020, 18:46
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09 Jun 2020, 18:46#4

"However, if there had not been any violence before this, then it does seem very out of place to push an old man to the floor for no reason. "

Police have been attacked, run over by cars, set on fire, etc. He was obviously confronting them in an aggressive way...stupid. What was he holding in his hand. T he cop had a split second to assess the situation and react...he did, and made a mistake...who can blame him? Who have been in the same situation? 

If he was acting bona fide, he would not have behaved the way that he did. I'm sorry he got hurt, but he put himself in harms way....behaving like an idiot.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
09 Jun 2020, 19:54
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09 Jun 2020, 19:54#5

It's a sad incident, I also saw it. But as many have mentioned, you have to pretty damn stupid to approach a squad of riot police who are already on edge, even after they repeatedly tell you to move out of the way. Not an excuse as I feel the police behaved callously, but it is just dumb to do that given what's been going on, what's been happening to police. It's just asking for trouble, especially if you get in their face and close down their personal space, because then you become a potential threat, 75 years old or not.

One thing I want to remind everyone of: us armchair critics have no idea what pressures police officers work under. It is easy to criticize from the sidelines. They've been under immense pressure and they've been targeted with deliberate physical attacks. They don't have the luxury that we have of assessing situations like this from the safe and stress-free environment of our homes.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2020, 20:09
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09 Jun 2020, 20:09#6

If that push was the standard for police violence there were a hundred thousand incidents of violence in Hong Kong. If you fall over when you are pushed you shouldn’t be in the middle of a riot.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
09 Jun 2020, 20:24
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09 Jun 2020, 20:24#7

And in the meantime the Democrats fake virtue signalling have backfired on them spectacularly.

They forgot the clown noses, see.

Oh what a circus, Murica.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
09 Jun 2020, 20:27
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09 Jun 2020, 20:27#8

Pakie, no-one is disputing the cops have a tough time of it in many situations but if you're one of about 50 cops who are wearing full protective helmets and bulletproof vests, carrying batons and goodness knows what other weapons . . . and you feel under "immense pressure" because you're coming under "deliberate physical attack" from a single frail-looking unarmed 75 year old man . . . then you probably shouldn't be a cop.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jun 2020, 20:38
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09 Jun 2020, 20:38#9
So here are the lies in the audio.
1 The cop just pushed him out of the way, he never pushed him to the ground... frankly I think he tripped over his own feet.
2 Secondly they never just left him there....one cop stops, and a second cop with a communication device tells him to move on....no doubt calling for medical help.
Nothing here to get worked up about.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jun 2020, 20:44
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09 Jun 2020, 20:44#10

Meng jou met die semels en die varke vreet jou...

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
09 Jun 2020, 21:10
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09 Jun 2020, 21:10#11

then you probably shouldn't be a cop

Uh huh. Ever lose your head for a moment on a bad day? Kick the dog, shout at your kid, maybe gave him a hiding he didn't really deserve because he was getting the fuck on your nerves? And that was just because a few benign things went wrong in your day.

Now these guys have heard or seen or experienced themselves and their colleagues being stoned, shot at, mowed down by vehicles, murdered and here is another fucker getting in their faces when they're just trying to do their jobs.

Police are human. They should and perhaps could have shown more restraint, but I think they only wanted to get him out of the way, shove him backwards to get him moving and probably didn't realize how feeble he was.

By the same token though, a 75 year old that can be blown over by a medium sized fart should not deliberately be inviting a confrontation with riot police while defying a curfew. Unless he wants to get hurt.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Jun 2020, 21:22
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09 Jun 2020, 21:22#12

I saw this video a few days ago already, and did not think much of it.  In the lock down situation this guy was supposed to be at home.    

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