A Bok Pack that is effective at the breakdown

If the Boks were in a world cup right now with all players fit - my team starting team would include players that are effective at the breakdown- along with a few that are strong in other areas.

1. Beast/ Kitshoff

2. Bismark - 

if he is still international standard. 

He is/was very effective at the breakdown- better than most loosies at the breakdown

Bongi on the bench or starting.

3. Coenie. 

Very effective at the breakdown.  

Backup or starting- Nykani- can scrum on both sides of the scrum. He can also have an effect at the breakdown 

4. Eztebeth  - backup Snyman

5. Mostert-  effective at the breakdown

Steph Du Toit as backup- and can cover lots of positions

6.  Marx - 

He makes more steals than specialist fetchers. He is also mobile. 

Kolisi as backup

7. Vermeulen- / a Donkey twin

effective at the breakdown. Also good in the lineout, so he should be able to cover the number7 position with ease- especially when compared to the likes of the donkey twins.

8. Whitely. Not great on the ground, but he is a good linking player between forwards and backs. Brings pace to the back row. 

When you say "effective at the breakdown" ... what do you mean?

Beast does not play to the ground ... nor does Kitshoff, Nyakane, Etzebeth, Bongi, Coenie, Pieter Steff Du Toit, Mostert, Whiteley or Kolisi.

If they did then we wouldn't have so many issues at turning ball over to the opposition.

Is this just another attempt at vindicating the quota?

Thought you'd throw a few white faxes into the mix, huh?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaa!!!

Good thing there's an edit button.

?"" few that are strong in other areas."  (e.g Speed in the back row, power in the front row etc)

@Cleancut, my guess is that you have never played rugby- or understood it when you did play in the 6t h team.

I see ... so it has nothing to do with the "breakdown" ...

It's just a list of your favourites you'd like in the Bok mix ... right?

Power up front? Nyakane? Really?? Perhaps if you turned the rugby ball into a cheeseburger ... he'd fight all comers off to get at it.

Bismarck? Oh please?? Done and dusted.

Bongi? Power?? Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaa!!!

I see Kolisi the useless makes your side.

I have a question for you, Shark? What race are you? Your constant demand to see useless quotas in the mix leads me to believe that you are a black man.

A desperate black man at that ... who's only concern is getting the colour mix right.

Please confirm!!

SB

It would be much better to forget about Bismarck - he is over-the-hill and there is no poroof that he is not.

Marx is NOT a loosie and wanting to urn him into one is really funny.   Aside from being losing all perspective as to what Marx mean in the scrumming set-up - you will lose a major contributor to scrumming by moving him to loosie.   

As to your other loosie selections they are flawed as well.  We need a real breakdown ball protection and recover amongst the loosies and I am not sure that Vermeulen will be useable in future.   All the players listed by you is just not suitable.       

The benchmark specialists for breakdowns could be Pocock, Hooper, CJ Stander (who failed this weekend against Pocock) and Richie McCaw.

Jaco Kriel, Philip van der Walt (Sharks) and Lappies Labuschagne are IMHO the only true fetchers in SA, but none of them are anywhere close to the Springbok team.

It is my overwhelming opinion that if a team does not have a specialist fetcher, the same will happen like it did this weekend to us against England where we lost the turnover battle with 9 - 4.

Bismarck (as backup to Malcolm Marx) should not get close to the Bok squad ... far to much of a  magnet for penalties or yellow cards.