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A great cricket test match .....ruined

Started by Mozart20 REPLIES486 VIEWS· 22 Dec 2013, 20:53
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Dec 2013, 20:53
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22 Dec 2013, 20:53#1

The Indians batted beautifully in the second innings, albeit against a reduced attack and set the Proteas an impossible task.



But then the openers got off smartly. The first twist was Smith taking a run ....when the only issue was if the fielder dead on, could hit the stumps. Next the Amla near suicidal duck.


But after that things went better and Kallas with a few pluperfect  cover drives looked to be taking charge, only to be incorrectly given out.



That was just the appetizer. We then had a brilliant stand between AB  and Faf.  Enough to ensure the win. But when AB went Duminy showed his lack of nerve. Still we get back to a winning position and then Faf runs himself out! Stunning!


 Was this a great test or what. Well it was for all but the last three overs when both sides played for a draw. How desperately disappointing. Why did Philander not take the fifth ball single and have a go in the lat over. Orders from the changing room? Who knows, but it was a sad cop out.

AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
22 Dec 2013, 21:02
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22 Dec 2013, 21:02#2
Faders in my book.  
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Dec 2013, 21:03
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22 Dec 2013, 21:03#3
 Too much to lose Moz. Faf didnt lose his nerve though just got run out with a direct hit.
They did play themselves into a good position. No doubt had kallis not been given out we woyld have won.Duminy is worrying he just doesnt seem up to it. We are also looking for a spinner.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Dec 2013, 23:14
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22 Dec 2013, 23:14#4
Certainly after the fine rear guard action, nobody wanted to lose. But how about taking a 5 per cent chance of losing, for  a 50 per cent chance of winning. A few singles in the second and third last overs....a crack at a few fours in the last. Even if you lost Philander on the first ball of the last over, the chances of two more wickets if the guys were defending we're slight.
Great and in fact excessive caution. One wouldn't have felt as robbed if they tried in the last over....even if 15 runs was unlikely.
And of course all the commentators were politically correct....where was Geoff Boycott when we needed a bit of honesty.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
23 Dec 2013, 05:12
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23 Dec 2013, 05:12#5
 Its the Saffa way innit ,like your coaching and selections in rugger safety first 
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Dec 2013, 05:29
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23 Dec 2013, 05:29#6
Nah, just heard Smith onna radio say that 'twas entirely the decision of the two batsmen & their decision has to be respected & there's a test to win at the Indians home base in Zululand .
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
23 Dec 2013, 06:08
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23 Dec 2013, 06:08#7

 Another "if only and we would've won" Hasbeeno? Sounds vaguely familiar?

What a bunch of girls the Proteas are!! 9 down, maybe go for the draw, but they were only 7 down!! The Indians must be laughing their heads off.

 

What a shame, they could've had a world record but bottled it.......I'd be livid if I was a Proteas' fan!

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Dec 2013, 09:54
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23 Dec 2013, 09:54#8
 We were basically 9 down. Morkel is injured and Tahir doesn't know which end of the bat to hold. 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Dec 2013, 10:15
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23 Dec 2013, 10:15#9
 Thanks draad but you will of course be confusing mooooo la with the facts. It was a cold calcalated decision. Armchair batsmen may have other views.Given how they would have been lynched had they lost one has to question the role played by fickle fans in the decision.The toys would have disappeared out of the kott for sure.can you imagine ou rooitwit wailing away!No we were saved all that possible embarassment by closing out the draw.
I am however detecting some serious green eyed behaviour from the kbbs!!
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
23 Dec 2013, 12:47
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23 Dec 2013, 12:47#10
A cold chicken-hearted decision Hasbeeno! Can't envy a team that bottles out of making history.....what a disgrace!!And Smith reckons it was the batsmen's decision out in the middle??????? Come on now, who's running the show??Good ol' take the safe option just like the Boks....instead of having a go let's get Morne to boot it far down field and hope the ABs knock it on....yeah right!!  
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Dec 2013, 13:09
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23 Dec 2013, 13:09#11
 DbDraad 
We were basically 9 down. Morkel is injured and Tahir doesn't know which end of the bat to hold.

Thanks DbD & thank f@#$% we never lost to the Indians, that would've destroyed me day ....
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Dec 2013, 16:13
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23 Dec 2013, 16:13#12
Agreed, we messed that up by not going for the win. There was history to be made and be bottled it with conservatism.
Beenkop, you are speaking crap, watching Morkel being put through his paces showed he was more than ready to bat.
We should have gone for the win. All that brilliant work was left out to dry.
What an anti climax


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Dec 2013, 17:08
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23 Dec 2013, 17:08#13

The Aussies would not have put up the shutters with 16 runs to get in three overs and with 3 wickets in hand. Never....and that's why you still have to bet on them if it gets close. It's not heart surgery, where the price of failure is really bad.....it's a cricket match for heaven sake.

 

This is the same mentality that makes so many of our rugby tests so close, even when we open a lead ......fear of losing.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
24 Dec 2013, 12:27
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24 Dec 2013, 12:27#14

It will never make sense to have gone for the draw

 

All those singles or two's that could and should have been taken when Vernon was tapping into the deep, which Steyn refused.  And you could see Vernon wanted the win, but Steyn resolutely saying NO !!!!

 

Take the singles through the last 3 overs and bring it down to 6-7-8 off the last over and swing for the fences with 3 balls left to ensure that India needed a hat trick to win the test which would have been very unlikely.

 

What a shocker !!

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Dec 2013, 12:53
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24 Dec 2013, 12:53#15
 I can bet you if we had lost the arm chair critics here would have been on the rampage. The Proteas know this - where do you think any fear of losing, if there was one and this was not a calcualted professional assesment, might come from. All the gung ho fans who woudl like the Proteas to have gone for the win but would have howled their eyes out if they had lost. 
I salute the Proteas for a huge fight back and a calm calculated decision to save the matchIt was also said India didnt bowl to get a win. Smith mentioaned that and he is correct. Both sides knew it could go either way and would not take the chance of a loss. ie the professional viewpoint rather than the gung ho armchair cricket wantingb the glow of a win but ready to go ballistic if we had lost. Next the oaks want to quote stats. Of course there will be 65% maoaning we did nt go for the win. Thats human nature.
Two direct hit run outs and Kaliis getting a bad call were important events.  

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
27 Dec 2013, 11:51
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27 Dec 2013, 11:51#16

I agree the Indians were negative, but that's precisely why we should have attacked.

 

 

I understand that Morkel was injured and Tahir is not the best no 11, but when will we ever get the chance to do something as historic as this again.

 

 

My only concern here, is that Steyn should never have had the final say, that is ludicrous for many different reasons, firstly if he had gone for it, or not gone for it, it should never have been him to face the public which ever way the result went.

 

It should have been a team management / joint senior player decision, and they can then deal with the repurcussions afterwards.

 

Steyn will now be asked this question for the rest of his life, and it will come to the point where he wishes he had just gone for it. 

 

You cannot expect one player alone to determine the outcome of such an important game, and have to deal with the criticism afterwards.

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Dec 2013, 00:46
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28 Dec 2013, 00:46#17
Huge fight back....followed by a bottle out. And Steyn never made this decision on his own....Philander was equally involved.  My own guess is a strong suggestion from above communicated to both surviving bats.
BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
28 Dec 2013, 07:51
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28 Dec 2013, 07:51#18
 What an awesome thread..We have the kiwi pricks talking about cricket issues and what SA should have done..Yeah thanks for that Kiwi's but please, dont mind us if we take what you guys have to say on cricket with a pinch of salt. I mean, didnt you guys just lose a series to Bangladesh?
Cricket and Kiwi's just dont mesh...Now you will say, ah, look at our rugby but lets be honest guys. Springboks challenge the AB's and can win on any day against them. Black caps dont challenge the Proteas. Your golfers dont challenge our golfers..Even soccer these days I dont reckon you guys could keep up with SA. Rankings mean nothing. You guys were embarrassed by Mexico whilst we were beating Spain!
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
28 Dec 2013, 08:55
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28 Dec 2013, 08:55#19
 Glad to C u back. Go well.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
28 Dec 2013, 22:15
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28 Dec 2013, 22:15#20

End of third day and Faf is still to bat.

 

So that said we should brace ourselves for yet another thrilling draw. 

 

Any bets!

 

Cheers Denny on the bigger Island.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
30 Dec 2013, 10:38
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30 Dec 2013, 10:38#21
  mozart

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December 27, 2013, 22:46:55 Huge fight back....followed by a bottle out. And Steyn never made this decision on his own....Philander was equally involved. My own guess is a strong suggestion from above communicated to both surviving bats.


 

I agree with everything except the Philander suggestion.  He clearly wanted to go for it and Steyn, a few times, resolutely screamed NO !!, towards Philander

 

They showed it multiple times in slow mo as well, and Philander was clearly quite peeved at Steyn's decision to close shop.

 

AB has also come out and said he backed Steyn's decision to go for the draw

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