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A lesson we should have learnt early about the Rugby Championship

Started by clevermike9 REPLIES84 VIEWS· 04 Oct 2014, 19:37
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2014, 19:37
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04 Oct 2014, 19:37#1

The Springboks had as it is a very good chance to win the RC if they did not bugger up the Aussie game.   If they won that one they would have won the trophy.   So why did they lose the game in Perth.   It was easy - they had Morne Steyn who would regulalry bugger up games completey ad managed to do that one with distinction.


Today Matfield tried to copy the Morne Steyn example.  Against the All Blacks in Wellington he fumbled a ball in a line-out near the end of the game - the idea was to form a driving maul - Matfield put pay to that one.


Today he lost a line out throw near the end of the game that puts the Springboks under massive pressure.   That type of thing cost teams victory and this geriatric nearly managed  to let us loose the match.


Meyer did SA a favour in going for Pollard and Lambie as flyhalfs and forget about the useless Morne Steyn.   It is really time for Meyer to wake up and get rid of the geriatrics in the team.   Jannie du Plessis, Matfield and  Bakkies Botha are old and tired men and does not last long enough in games to produce good performances.   


I do not think there is anything amiss with De Villiers and Habana - but I have serious reservations about JP Pietersen.   He came on and just was not good enough.   I also have serious reservations about Hendriks defense - it never was his stong point - today he was very weak.  


 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Oct 2014, 19:42
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04 Oct 2014, 19:42#2
 You just cannot help yourself can you? Stupid doos.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2014, 19:43
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04 Oct 2014, 19:43#3
 Mike Meyer must put the young guns in now. Let them grow and be ready for RWC.
However I must ask you ansd ou snapster who won the match. Even if we are not at our best we still won. We were shafted in Oz and thus are the true winners of the RC. 

We should also have beaten the wee abs in nz.
If we get our side right and tactics we should win the RWC.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2014, 19:43
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04 Oct 2014, 19:43#4
Are you still on here fool?
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manceRookie63 posts
04 Oct 2014, 19:45
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04 Oct 2014, 19:45#5
 Your team just beat the world no. 1 in yet another Ellis Park epic, yet all you can do is bitch and moan. Your are quite pathetic and an embarrassment to Bok supporters.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
04 Oct 2014, 19:46
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04 Oct 2014, 19:46#6
Overall the Bok lineout was much better than the All Black lineout, especially in the first half. Matfield did lose one critical lineout, but he won much more clean takes at the lineout than anyone in the All Blacks lineout. 
Matfield organises the lineout and makes the calls. He is not just one of the jumpers. He is still the best lineout player in world rugby, and his kickoff takes are also solid which allow driving mauls to form from the kickoffs as well.

Pretty much all of the All Blacks lineouts in the 1st half were very sloppy wins that put the Scrumhalf under massive pressure. 
The quality of ball from the Springbok lineout was much better than the quality of ball from the All Black lineout. Anyone that disputes that the All Black lineout was better is crazy.Australia and the All Blacks will allways try take quick throws when Matfield is in the lineout- even with the likes of Sam Whitelock in their lineout
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2014, 20:05
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04 Oct 2014, 20:05#7
Added to which the lineouts we lost were after Strauss came on, in Matfield's case he was way higher but the ball was short. Changing hookers is always a lineout gamble.  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Oct 2014, 20:25
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04 Oct 2014, 20:25#8
 Looking forward to when Meyer fields a tight five. Hope Steph Du Toit comes back strong! Steph is strong and mobile and agressive. Just what we need.
I believe our best loose trio is Coetzee/Louw Vermuelen and Schalk at 7.
Time for Marcel/ Malherbe to start at 3. 
Will Du Toit be ready for RWC. Take him on tour and find out? 
Hougaard has been very good. Like to see how Reinach goes. Also want to see a Jan/ Allende pairing. Cobus Van Wyk of the Stormers is looking very good on the wing.
Meyer take a tip from Beeno and look to your youth now. Have older guys on bench.I think we can safely dispatch victor and bakkies at the very least. Guys like Jean and Jannie can play off the bench. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2014, 20:47
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04 Oct 2014, 20:47#9
Mozart
You are the idiot here -  Jannie was a major problem today - we wwere attacking and he made the stupidist of stupid mistakes.  
Matfield buggered up in the line outin Wellington when Bismarck as feeding the line-out. He buggered up a line out today and now the hokker is to blame.   The fact is he is frail and no good anymore.   Here is Matfield's stats for th game today:-
 Matfield0/000/4/4200019/05/010/0 Virtually no ball carries - took five line outs and losttwo to the opposition.  Hand over possession once and gave away a penalty -  tell me what makes him an essential in the Springbok team with those kind o performnce indicators.
No lets go on -   Bakkies was on the field of play for 18 minutes and here is his tats as well:-
Botha0/000/0/2000003/00/000/0
What was he worth on the field of play - near to zero to tie in with all the zeros indicated.
Now for dear Jannie - here is his stats:-
JN du Plessis0/000/1/3600005/20/010/0
Since his scrumming ws at best average - why should he be in the team? 
We all know you are geriatrics-adduicted and consequently the Board fool - but at least you have made a bigger fool of yourself every time you write something.   Fransie was your choice at flyhalf - the worst choice you could possibly have suggested.    Then there was the screams for Morne Steyn who was the saviour of the Argentine game.   The you added Cilliers as a prop - the list of Mozart idiocies grows every time you write something.
You were critical of Lambie to the point of sying he is a dud - di he save the game for us today?    Not a word about that one and there won't be one - because you are too stupid to discuss things logically.   



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2014, 20:51
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04 Oct 2014, 20:51#10
Look OOm you confidently predicted Bok losses against Oz last week and this week against NZ. You were positively gleeful telling us the Boks had no chance. You are a fool and major turncoat...have the decency to be embarrassed. 
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