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A new candidate for the worst coach?

Started by Mozart30 REPLIES2,005 VIEWS· 14 Dec 2024, 20:24
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Dec 2024, 20:24
#1
14 Dec 2024, 20:24#1

Following the logic of our two Jake bashers. 56 to 17….Guppies! Mountain Momma indeed.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
14 Dec 2024, 22:16
#2
14 Dec 2024, 22:16#2
Geez what a clobbering….the Sharks were bullied in the tight stuff. Mchunu can’t scrum to save his life ! What a game pollard had and scoring a try. Masuku is a prospect, but he was outclassed tonight . He needs a lot more work, if he wants to play for the Boks… Overall a embarrassing outing for the sharks, with Ethan Hooker the only man playing noteworthy Rugby.
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
14 Dec 2024, 22:37
#3
14 Dec 2024, 22:37#3
Stormers playing shit to….down 34-9, 20 mins to go….whats wrong with our so called top sides ?? Lions winning at-least….
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Dec 2024, 23:01
#4
14 Dec 2024, 23:01#4

Pollard had a classy game. Shows what he can do in a more creative environment.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Dec 2024, 23:10
#5
14 Dec 2024, 23:10#5

Mozart

I wrote that I do not understand how that team of the Stormer were selected.   The team consisted of players I have never  heard about before,          

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 Dec 2024, 05:22
#6
15 Dec 2024, 05:22#6
"Following the logic of our two Jake bashers. 56 to 17….Guppies!"
Sometimes I get a bit embarrassed reading comments like this. I mean, to think I'm contributing to a rugby board that has noobs like this on it. What do visiting rugby fans think of our board when they see comments like this?
As if there's any kind of comparison. Just to explain some basic concepts to the noobs that any real rugby contributor would know . . .
Firstly, the Bulls were home at Loftus against a touring team while the Sharks were in another hemisphere. Noobs may not know how much home ground advantage is increased when the visitors are travelling from another country but real rugby followers know this . . . and even noobs with a modicum of intelligence should be able to look at past results and work this out for themselves.
Secondly, the Bulls were at full strength with 9 Springboks in the starting XV while the Sharks were effectively a B team without the likes of Springboks Ox Nche, Bongi Mbonambi, Thomas du Toit, Eben Etzebeth, Siya Kolisi, Grant Williams, Andre Esterhuizen, Lukhanyo Am, Makazole Mapimpi and Aphelele Fassi. Again, people who know something about rugby are probably nodding their heads while noobs like Moffie and Emp are wondering who those missing players are.
I mean, really. How little do you have to know about rugby to make a comment like the one above, let alone start a thread about it.
LMAO!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Dec 2024, 05:58
#7
15 Dec 2024, 05:58#7

So home field advantage is 6 points. That means you think the Sharks A/B team is 33 points worse than their A team. Now there’s a rugby noob idea. You’re right I’d be worried if some real fans read your original post.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
15 Dec 2024, 08:51
#8
15 Dec 2024, 08:51#8
Awe...the poor pathetic twerp RooiBalls crawled out of his burrow to make yet another shitty, boring, meaningless post. Is there a more clearly frustrated poster on this board, or any other board, anywhere on the interwebs. What a truly pathetic individual.
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 Dec 2024, 10:22
#9
15 Dec 2024, 10:22#9
Not only pathetic but scared and insecure to…Notice how he always has to lash out or insult other posters?! Only a Noob would think that a class franchise like the sharks or the Stormers would not be able to do better with there replacement players. But no this noob really thinks that only the A list players can effect the win. Whatever happened to building depth and making sure that your second best players can also be competitive and pull it thru??
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AJHPro3,183 posts
15 Dec 2024, 15:24
#10
15 Dec 2024, 15:24#10

Well all I can say is that the Stormers game was without their top man in the fly-half position.

Manie sure was missed with his attacking play and exceptional goal kicking. 

Plus that (outstanding) Stormers Springbok lock had yet another one of his standard weak performances.








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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 12:01
#11
16 Dec 2024, 12:01#11
Difference is the Sharks put out a B side whereas the Bulls were at full strength Huge difference - not playing Ox, Bongi, Koch, Eben, Kolisi, Vincent Tsituka, Williams, Esterhuizen, Am, Mapimpi and Fassi is huge
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Dec 2024, 15:58
#12
16 Dec 2024, 15:58#12

Agreed Dave re the S harks. 

Also the Stormers had a number of players out. 

It makes a big difference. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Dec 2024, 16:25
#13
16 Dec 2024, 16:25#13

Not a 39 point difference…get real.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 17:12
#14
16 Dec 2024, 17:12#14
Huge difference between the Sharks A vs B side It’s Boks vs provincial players
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
16 Dec 2024, 17:45
#15
16 Dec 2024, 17:45#15
1. Ntuthuko Mchunu 2. Dylan Richardson 3.Trevor Nyakane 4.Jason Jenkins 5.Emile van Heerden 6.Phepsi Buthelezi (C) 7.Lappies Labuschagne 8.Manu Tshituka 9.Jaden Hendrikse 10.Siya Masuku 11.Yaw Penxe 12.Francois Venter 13.Ethan Hooker 14.Eduan Keyter 15.Jordan Hendrikse Not a completely useless team , surely they should have done better?? After all these are there second best team. Same counts for stormers who completely folded with there second best team. Surely the skill level and how these second best players perform, should not be that far apart from the A Listers. The chasm is to big between these players and it’s impossible to always play your best players. If we can only rely on our A Listers to drag a win thru, South African Rugby is in major trouble!!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 18:07
#16
16 Dec 2024, 18:07#16
Oh what shit - that completely disrespects the quality of the opposition saying our B sides should be competing with English clubs best sides Damn right a club/ provincial A side should be thumping an opposition B side
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
16 Dec 2024, 18:26
#17
16 Dec 2024, 18:26#17
Nonsense if one of your best players gets injured another of similar calibre should be able to slot in and be just as competitive. How do you explain the boks setup then? Even a Moeras or a van Staden that is not even close as good as Eben, Mostert or Kwagga?! But they still manage to pull thru a win and be competitive. You can’t always play your best players and your substitutes must be close to the level of your best so that you still effect a win….Fact.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 18:41
#18
16 Dec 2024, 18:41#18
Fuck me stop being thick - a whole side of B team players is not the same as one B team player slotting into the A side in the case of an injury Fuck me Bok set up vs provincial is vastly different A Bok B team player is a provincial A team player This is like explaining to a 10 year old
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:03
#19
16 Dec 2024, 19:03#19

Don't waste too much time on the rugby noobs Saffex.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:04
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16 Dec 2024, 19:04#20
I hear you Rooi Rugby basics here Geez
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:05
#21
16 Dec 2024, 19:05#21
Well its higher than provincial level, talk about thick….Currie cup is provincial level … These players that play in the URC and champions league is the players that get chosen for the Boks after all! So keep on shouting like a lunatic, but fact is that the players that are the replacements, play together with the best ones. They are supposed to be of the same calibre to seamlessly slot in and be competitive and win! How stupid can you be to think that only the A Listers will win a game?! Then you might as well throw in the towel now, because news flash players get injured and if you can’t rely on your substitutes to get the job done, then you fucked! And what a insult saying that our top franchises is not even close to Bok standard. They follow the same principles as the Boks. Besides that Erasmus is always in communication with our Franchise coaches. That’s a fact. So obviously he will give advise where it’s needed.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:16
#22
16 Dec 2024, 19:16#22

Of course they should have done better….Dave and Peeper simply can’t admit it because it contradicts their 20year old anti Jake narrative.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:32
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16 Dec 2024, 19:32#23
Huh so provincial is CC and the Stormers are not a provincial side? Mpower are you really this thick
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:40
#24
16 Dec 2024, 19:40#24
Moz what I’m saying is that the Bulls in the last two games have been shocking Their coach is Jake, so where does the blame lie Against Saracens they seemed devoid of any direction when it came to playing in the wind and rain Against the Saints they were just plain shocking and nothing changed after halftime - they were clearly the better side but continuously failed to turn things around They look like an unhappy side devoid of direction Your mate Jake needs to get his shit together and stop fucking moaning all the time - the latest being the need to stop for a hot chocolate break instead of a water one up north It’s not even cold here - it was 12 degrees yesterday
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
16 Dec 2024, 19:50
#25
16 Dec 2024, 19:50#25
Yet again you trying to compare URC with Currie cup?? Does Currie cup teams play Leinster, Munster etc.?? No they don’t!! They play the griffons or the Griquas. It’s a totally different level of competition!! Honestly talk about thick :)
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 20:02
#26
16 Dec 2024, 20:02#26
I never mentioned Currie Cup for fuck sake - wake up We don’t have clubs in SA we have provincial sides. The Sharks are a provincial side The Sharks A side should be competing in the Champions Cup and the majority of the URC, with the B side competing in the other URC and the CC games. So if we are going to be sending our B side to play the Quins A side then I expect our B side to get thumped If we send our A side with the off B team player to cover for injury then I still expect our A side to win The Bok squad is made up of our provincial A sides along with clubs A sides abroad No provincial B side player features for the Boks Do you get these obvious facts huh?

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
16 Dec 2024, 20:23
#27
16 Dec 2024, 20:23#27
The sharks team was a mixture of A, s and B,s as you call them…so we should have done better. That swampie Swiegers was a B candidate, but he was picked for the boks by Rassie on standby…. Ok he never played, but still the B,s can be chosen. Libbok for example was a Big Bbbb until Rassie picked him. Moeras is a total B Knob and he get’s to play with the A,ssss??? So how now Brown cow ??
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becsPro4,378 posts
16 Dec 2024, 20:31
#28
16 Dec 2024, 20:31#28

Saffolk is right……it’s not cold here at the moment. Temperatures are in the teens. 


But it was hot for Northampton in Pretoria…..

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 20:49
#29
16 Dec 2024, 20:49#29
Swiegers never smelt the Bok side and yes there have over the years been the odd exception to the rule where a player from a minor union gets a Bok call up - hardly the norm now is it That Swiegers call was a Daan Human one but Rassie never bought it Moerat is not B team, he is a good player, so stop speaking shit That was not a mix of A and B for the Sharks Ox, Bongi, Koch, Eben, Grobelaar, Kolisi, Vincent Tsituka, Williams, Esterhuizen, Am, Mapimpi and Fassi were missing - that’s 12 players
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
16 Dec 2024, 21:02
#30
16 Dec 2024, 21:02#30
Mchunu, Hendrikse brothers, one of your Favourites and you always rave what a class act he is, Jason Jenkins and Trevor are Boks. Then players like masuku, tshituka, Hooker, lappies, Rahl , Hanro and Francois venter, are surely A listers?! Even Emile V Heerden who got baby Bok colours? Fact is they should have played much much better !
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Dec 2024, 21:24
#31
16 Dec 2024, 21:24#31
Mchunu is good but not for sex Jayden Hendrikse is disappointing of late Jordan is very good Jenkins needs to up his game, he has not replicated his Leinster form yet Nyakane is past it Lappies is not A and Frans Venter is another hasbeen Yes they should have done better but they are not the A side Of that side only Jenkins, Manu Tsituka and Masuku or Jordan would start - with possibly Grobelaar ahead of Jenkins
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