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A pace deficiency in the AB backline starters?

Started by Mozart13 REPLIES784 VIEWS· 25 Aug 2018, 17:57
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2018, 17:57
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25 Aug 2018, 17:57#1
Another clinical team display by the ABs, but there were a few one on one situations that rather belied the superman image. The way Hodge sprinted away from Laumape and Goodhue's general play suggests the ABs sans Crotty are not that swift.....nor that fast, is there a slower pair in the top test teams? Brown is no speed merchant either. And then there's Jordie Barrett. Put away cleanly, Foley looked metres faster as chewed up the overlap. How can this guy be a better option than McKenzie. In fact apart from Beauden who did some brilliant things and Ben Smith, the whole backline looked carthorse-ish. But the initial turnover response and backing up is so clinical, the speed issue is negated. As things stand the Wallaby style is a non starter, it simply plays into the AB strengths. The only team to really challenge the ABs of late, Ireland, played a much tighter game. Much of what was positive for the ABs came from Beale mistakes.....missed tackles, dropped balls, kicks directly into touch.He is a lucky packet as ever, but mostly he comes up trumps for the opposition. The fourth Barrett try was a moment of magic, after being denied in exactly the same spot by a very iffy knock-on.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Aug 2018, 18:43
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25 Aug 2018, 18:43#2

Congratulations - you do take note of what I have written earlier this week - where I said tat they are physical - but rather slow pace-wise.  I omitted McKenzie and to a lesser extent Barrtt = who are faster in pace than the rest.  

Nothing really new here.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Aug 2018, 18:43
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25 Aug 2018, 18:43#3

Congratulations - you do take note of what I have written earlier this week - where I said tat they are physical - but rather slow pace-wise.  I omitted McKenzie and to a lesser extent Barrtt = who are faster in pace than the rest.  

Nothing really new here.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Aug 2018, 19:50
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25 Aug 2018, 19:50#4

The Boks have pace in the back three and stopping power inside. It'll be interesting how they fare against New Zealand. The Aussies were doing a great job stifling the All Blacks going wide. Then in the second half, the All Blacks attacked the fringes heavily. The Wallabies folded without resistance. It opened the game up for the All Blacks. I'm sure Rassie will have take note how the Wallabies suffered. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2018, 20:01
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25 Aug 2018, 20:01#5
Now that Allende is history I'm a lot more confident in our inside stopping power.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Aug 2018, 20:04
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25 Aug 2018, 20:04#6

Here's Kuri-cam from 2015 showing us how opponents see Damian. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Aug 2018, 20:10
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25 Aug 2018, 20:10#7
Hahahahaha.....ja, I can spot a small bump in that road.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
26 Aug 2018, 00:15
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26 Aug 2018, 00:15#8

....they don't call it the Bloodyslow ( Bledisloe) Cup for nothing...

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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
26 Aug 2018, 00:35
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26 Aug 2018, 00:35#9
In addition, to having been given a girls name, Jordie is living off his brother's family name. He looks like a fatter and slower version of Beauden Barrett.He bumbled that try by stepping on the line, something that his brother would have cantered. 

Brothers Scott BarrettKane BarrettBlake Barrett
SistersJordie Barrett
Zara BarrettElla BarrettJenna Barrett
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
26 Aug 2018, 00:50
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26 Aug 2018, 00:50#10

...Hansen has his favourites unfortunately...but as long as we keep winning then he will keep selecting the same players....risky business though when he is yr last line of defence....

...on the plus side Beaudy runs a great counter defence covering for his brother as if they're still playing back yard footy  - for most parts they seem to innately sense where each other is fortunately for us....comforting also to have Ben Smith in the back three as cover for Jordie although you can only do so much out on the wing..

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WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Aug 2018, 01:44
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26 Aug 2018, 01:44#11

I dunno ,they look faster than the Boks starting against the Argies eh ?

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2018, 01:58
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26 Aug 2018, 01:58#12
WD I'm not saying they are better rugby players....but Dyantyi, Mapimpi and Willie are probably quicker as a group.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Aug 2018, 06:55
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26 Aug 2018, 06:55#13

Yes Moz but running around like a mob of scared arse gazelle will make them all tired and meat on the table .

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
26 Aug 2018, 13:42
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26 Aug 2018, 13:42#14

The SA passion for tales. Plus that desire to feel as rivals to NZ rugby.


SA rugby has no unity.

It is better to have a fast player who knows he can run as fast he can because the team keeps moving as a unit than a faster player who knows he must manage his pace because the team around is not able to follow his pace and provide timely support and continuity.


SA rugby is poor, it can not bear improvisation and spontaneity. Everything must be wired two or three moves in advance. Which negates any benefit from fast players.

And when SA fast players act out from first set of mind, the moves end by being more dangerous for the SA team than the opponent.

SA rugby do not provide an adequate environment for fast players. They cant express themselves.

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