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A reminder re some guys playing overseas

Started by Beeno16 REPLIES284 VIEWS· 16 Dec 2013, 13:14
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Dec 2013, 13:14
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16 Dec 2013, 13:14#1

Now if these players were all at home how much better would our super 15 sides be?

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Zane Kirchner's Leinster were stunned by a resurgent performance from the Northampton Saints in the Heineken Cup on Saturday.

Having hammered the English side away from home the week before, Leinster went down 18-9 at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin.

Juan Smith was on the winning side as Toulon rediscovered their groove with a bonus-point win over Exeter Chiefs, with Bakkies Botha, Danie Roussouw and Bryan Habana all out injured. The champions remain top of Pool 2.

Schalk Brits, Alastair Hargreaves, Ernst Joubert and Neil de Kock were all on the bench for Saracens in their nine-try rout of Zebre, with Jacques Burger starting at openside flanker and scoring in the 64-3 victory.

Schalk Ferreira started at loosehead prop for Toulouse as they gained revenge over Irish side Connacht for their shock defeat in Round 3, with Chilliboy Rallepelle and Gurthrö Steenkamp appearing off the bench.

George Earle and Jo Snyman were on the losing side for the Scarlets against Clermont, while Ruan Pienaar started at scrumhalf for Ulster with Johann Muller in the second row in their 35-3 win over Treviso. The Irish side are currently top of Pool 5 ahead of Leicester.

The Tigers took down Wynand Olivier's Montpellier in France to set up a key battle between themselves and Ulster in Round 6.

BJ Botha's Munster squeaked home thanks to a late try against Perpignan, while Juandre Kruger was on the bench for Racing Métro's 17-3 loss to Harlequins.

Rory Kockott kicked four penalties as Castres slumped to a 21-12 loss to the Ospreys in Wales, leaving the Top 14 champions third in Pool 1.

Tyrone Holmes and Josh Strauss ended up on the losing side for Glasgow in a drab 7-9 loss to Cardiff Blues, but there were better fortunes for the other Scottish side, Edinburgh.

Cornell du Preez, Izak Van Der Westhuizen, WP Nel and Wicus Blaauw all started in the pack as Alan Solomons' team won 16-10 at Gloucester.

In the Challenge Cup, former Sharks and Tuks lock Mike Williams started for Worcester as their dire season continued with a 33-25 loss to Biarritz.

Kevin Buys' Bordeaux had a 20-9 win over Bucuresti, who featured lock Johan van Heerden, while Christoffell Johannes du Plessis and Joubert Prinsloo Horn were both on the losing side for Viadana against Dewald Senekal and JC Van Rensburg's Bayonne, who scored 12 tries in an 80-19 win.

Finally Michael van Vuuren was one of four try-scorers for Stade Français against London Irish, with Meyer Bosman and Gerhard Mostert starting and with Anton van Zyl and Morné Steyn on the bench.


This surely is not a complete list - where is CJ Stander for example.



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Dec 2013, 13:40
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16 Dec 2013, 13:40#2
 Stander is not making the Munster side at the moment. He played for Munster "A" against Plymouth this weekend. Seems like he is a far cry away from playing for Ireland like he said he was aiming to do when he left SA.

Seems like everybody in Ireland, bar Munster's Kiwi coach, are huge CJ fans. He has only had five starts for the province since 2012.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Dec 2013, 13:49
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16 Dec 2013, 13:49#3
 Great news that windpomp as maybe the lad will head back home. 
Come home CJ and think about living down in the beautiful Cape. Living in Pretoria must have been depressing but Ireland is surely worse. Cape Town is where you need to be.
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BuzzClub Pro175 posts
16 Dec 2013, 17:40
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16 Dec 2013, 17:40#4
This thread gives no insight to the performances of the players , got anything with some real meat on it ?  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Dec 2013, 23:49
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16 Dec 2013, 23:49#5
 Buzzard real meat is in short supply my end!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2013, 01:08
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17 Dec 2013, 01:08#6

Beeno


What I fail to understand is -


*   why the Springboks and ex-Springboks are virtually all on the bench for their various clubs; while


*   they are the choice starting line-up players for the Springboks.


Something tells me it show how bad the selection of foreign-based club players really are and why they make limited contribution or bugger up when they play for the Springboks.


Maybe the foreign clubs have found out something Meyer has still not found out - that the relevant playe rs are past their best and not worth playing in their starting line-ups.    

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
17 Dec 2013, 01:11
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17 Dec 2013, 01:11#7
 Mike, they've played a full year with Super rugby and test matches (Zane, Morne etc)
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