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A video review of Garces

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:05
#1
23 Sept 2019, 21:05#1




PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:14
#2
23 Sept 2019, 21:14#2

Gonna be sooo good watching the whistle turn on them in the semis.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:22
#3
23 Sept 2019, 21:22#3
The worst referees in the world are French ones. The others have good and bad games, just like the players, but the French are terrible referees. 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:24
#4
23 Sept 2019, 21:24#4

They missed the off the ball laundry line tackle on PSDT by Kierang Read...turning into a cheap shot merchant. Disgraceful officiating...too much to be just human error.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:41
#5
23 Sept 2019, 21:41#5

Here is a small fact.

If this video was of the Boks getting advantageous calls, most Bok fans would be of the same opinion in terms of how shyte the ref was.

That's the difference. That's the very inconveniently disturbing difference between us + the rest of the world...And the kiwis. 

Remember when the Lions got the high penalty count at Ellis Park this year? 

We all said it was obviously not fair.

It's shameful.

NZ  = Ego>Country>Rugby

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:44
#6
23 Sept 2019, 21:44#6

Nope Plum, not all Saffas said it wash fishy, but there were a few, not only denials or ignoring the obvious. 

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Sept 2019, 21:53
#7
23 Sept 2019, 21:53#7

The French are too emotional ....... rather give me that 'happy' lil Welshman.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Sept 2019, 22:04
#8
23 Sept 2019, 22:04#8
"The worst referees in the world are French ones."
Interesting.
Of course, it doesn't explain why 4 of the 12 elite refs at this RWC are French . . . more than any other nation. Maybe you should write a very strongly-worded letter to World Rugby?
The panel of refs for RWC has been known for some months now. I can't help but notice there hasn't been a single peep from anyone about terrible French refs in all that time and now suddenly after the Springboks lose a game reffed by a Frenchman everyone is bleating about naughty French refs and how bad they are.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Sept 2019, 22:07
#9
23 Sept 2019, 22:07#9

Draad, find the thread if you can.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
23 Sept 2019, 22:08
#10
23 Sept 2019, 22:08#10

This link shows conversations about French Refees by people from SA and New Zealand here on the Ruckersforum. If you search through, my former comments will be found.
French Referees -Ruckers Forum
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Sept 2019, 23:34
#11
23 Sept 2019, 23:34#11

Lol

Do have a read of CC the raging homo's performance on that thread...

What confused homo-erectile-disfunction he is. 

Here's a sneak preview...my my, looks like the poor sod just have up. Hence the confused weirdo we see today...


Posted by: CleanCut (8484 posts)

Jul 11, 2017, 12:20

 
"Just another "win" for them with the aid of the ref.

It too produced a strutt and a lot of self adoration.

They prefer it when the contest is taken out of a match."

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 Sept 2019, 00:05
#12
24 Sept 2019, 00:05#12

Oh...And looks like WD was right about CC

Posted by: Wardad (6619 posts)

Jul 11, 2017, 22:31

 Hey JW about CC ,was it peeking out of the closet eh ? 

You know what they say about the g ay bashers and their inner desires hahahaha!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Sept 2019, 00:09
#13
24 Sept 2019, 00:09#13
So in every one of those scrums Malherbe's right knee hits the deck before Moody's elbow...Moody was dragged down by Malherbe's abnormally low body position. We were lucky Malherbe wasn't penalized. I agree Moody's shoulder charge on Marx was foul play and I agree that Vermeulen's one steal was a penalty....which went the other way and led to 3points. Some of this is wrong....the penalty against Dud Toit for holding on was obvious, he was poleaxed and fell with the ball on the wrong side. And we haven't seen the calls from a NZ perspective. The commentators were pretty convinced Mapimpi would be carded. And much as the incident with a player around Stephanie's neck looks bad.....Stephanie himself attacked the neck at about minute 10.00. Overall there are some close calls, but I see none of the systematic bias that characterized Bryce Lawrence.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
24 Sept 2019, 01:47
#14
24 Sept 2019, 01:47#14
Mozart, that is a good point. Flab Malherbe has his knee on the ground before Moody had this hand on the ground
https://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=19&language=EN

  1. Dangerous play in a scrum includes:
    1. A front-row charging against the opposition.
    2. Pulling an opponent.
    3. Intentionally lifting an opponent off their feet or forcing them upwards out of the scrum.
    4. Intentionally collapsing a scrum.
    5. Intentionally falling or kneeling.
CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
24 Sept 2019, 01:54
#15
24 Sept 2019, 01:54#15

Looks like everyone has decided that they cant beat the All Blacks fair and square so now to try to influence the refs through the press with a biased view.

As Mozart points out you are only looking at one side of the coin, there was plenty that the Boks got away with so don't go trying to tell me its a one way street.

Would be interesting if someone with the know how did a video on the Boks to see how it really stacks up

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
24 Sept 2019, 01:54
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24 Sept 2019, 01:54#16


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2019, 06:17
#17
24 Sept 2019, 06:17#17

Strzok 

One has to accept  that lies and distortions are always the reason why you earn the  Strzok designation in full,   I looked at the scrums and their is no indication that Malherbe's knee  was on the ground as claimed by you.   The same thing always happens when it comes to your distorted claims and that is a fact of life in your case.   The way the scrum is going the fact is the knee was NOT on the ground and Moody lost his bind as well.

If Malherbe's knee was on the ground he should have been penalized - but it was clear it was not. Another physical impossibility is cooked up by you again.   Get real for a change and not deserve  the further designation - the nightmare caused by Labuschagne for you to you very real distort ion tactics.               

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
24 Sept 2019, 07:22
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24 Sept 2019, 07:22#18
Mike you can’t be that blind so you must be just stupid! You can clearly see Malherbe’s knee hit the deck so stop denying it! I know you hate everything Moz but Sharkbok backs this up as well. Get real!
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Sept 2019, 07:33
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24 Sept 2019, 07:33#19

I looked at the scrums and their is no indication that Malherbe's knee  was on the ground as claimed by you

Are you serious, Mike? Really?

Here are the three scrums in a row. Scrum 3 the knee and elbow looks simultaneous to me though, it's hard to see when exactly it hits the ground due to Steph's position. On the first two the knee is definitely down first.

Who knows who is pulling who down though, scrums are a mystery to me.


AO
Admit OneClub Pro389 posts
24 Sept 2019, 07:46
#20
24 Sept 2019, 07:46#20

https://ibb.co/SQT2MtF

RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
24 Sept 2019, 08:06
#21
24 Sept 2019, 08:06#21

Funny as article above re drinking game... be like having a shot every time the Aussie's drop the ball after 3phases...

Or... having a shot every time the kiwis get preferential treatment from the ref... 

Now that would be real alcohol poisoning...

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2019, 08:14
#22
24 Sept 2019, 08:14#22

Strzok and Comey - Liars personified

For Malherbe's action to be considered as kneeling and to be contravening the law  and be penalized for kneeling his knee had to be bent  and it was straight in that case,  Do you two ever think before you write BS on site or must you always manufacture BS to make any point to be considered as being  of value?    

Tu'umgafasi and Moody did exactly what Moody did in scrums on Saturday and was blown up 4 times for that in the RC.  Idiotic twisters I have ever seen coming up with such BS again and again. 

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Sept 2019, 08:21
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24 Sept 2019, 08:21#23

his knee had to be bent  and it was straight in that case

Oh dear lord  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2019, 08:35
#24
24 Sept 2019, 08:35#24

Your photos is as per normal not worth anything dofdoos.  Look at what happened in real game s and not use unclear photos to try your distortions BSter,    Did you not notice that the knee in your first photo DID NOT touch the ground and the subsequent photos indicated that it did because Moody was already going down after loosing his bind. the knee in the first pho to was lightly bend -- which is always the case while any scrum is forming in all matches by all props.  Oh dear Lord.  .     

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Sept 2019, 09:06
#25
24 Sept 2019, 09:06#25

Looked in high res again:

Scrum 1: Malherbe's knee down immediately on engage, then back up. Then elbow down, followed by knee.

Scrum 2: Knee down, then elbow down, then knee up, then elbow up, then elbow down, then knee down.

Scrum 3: Knee, then elbow.

As I said, I'm not commenting on who pulls down who, scrums are not my area. Point is there is a knee and elbow on the ground in all three scrums - neither is legal. The scrum experts can sort out who is at fault.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Sept 2019, 09:25
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24 Sept 2019, 09:25#26

"And much as the incident with a player around Stephanie's neck looks bad.....Stephanie himself attacked the neck at about minute 10.00"

The difference being that PSDT was tackled high to prevent him from getting to the ball carrier.  Deliberately taking  out the defender with a bigh tackle to boot. Extremely cynical professional  foul play. Should have been carded or cited...., but IMO the officials looked the other way because the were too gutless to card the Allblack captain.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2019, 10:32
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24 Sept 2019, 10:32#27

Strzok - the nightmare Labuschagne caused for you is back again 

What had the two incidents involving Du Toit to do with each other?   As per normal you are on a BS lying and distortion campaign.   The story about what Read did was a real issue - the Du Toit tackle was maybe penalizable since the tackle was on the high side - the Read issue was a totally dangerous and illegal on three counts.  

Please do not go on in your normal idiotic and prejudiced mode.   If  Etzebeth or the useless Mostert was involved and not Du Toit you would have screamed blue murder.   So better shut up moron. 

Read the following comments from Proudfoot about the scrum issue - maybe you will learn something about a game where  you know nothing about and where your prejudice leads to venemous BS comment on site:-

"In an opening 20-minute period the Springboks looked to have the upper hand over the New Zealand front row as three scrums collapsed and on a fourth, the All Black pack was sent backward, popping up as the scrum disintegrated. The refs turned a blind eye, however, allowing play to continue every time without going to the whistle.

When questioned whether South Africa will speak with match officials about the scrum penalties, Proudfoot said he is ‘sure’ Rassie will bring various issues forward."

The latter also applies to  Comey as well.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
24 Sept 2019, 13:58
#28
24 Sept 2019, 13:58#28

There is no doubt flab Malherbe was using his knee to prop himself up. 

Flab Malherbe was trying to do his belly-flop routine, and Moody was holding him up and preventing a scrum collapse. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2019, 14:19
#29
24 Sept 2019, 14:19#29

SB

Read what Proudfoot said and stop your lying BS please.  Mozazart start with this BS in 2013 and lied his arse off as per normal and you followed him like a licker of what he writes.   Get he message?   LOL   

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Sept 2019, 16:07
#30
24 Sept 2019, 16:07#30
Actually I thought Garces reffed the scrums pretty well. There are always scrumming niggles that lead to incessant resets and kill the game....not so much in this game. The scrum where the Boks had the upper hand, NZ managed to produce the ball before the scrum totally broke up.....that negated the penalty. I have seen Vermeulen do the same thing for the Boks. Guys we didn't lose this game because of the ref, claiming that undercuts other instances where that was true, Bryce Lawrence at WC 2011 being the prime example.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2019, 16:33
#31
24 Sept 2019, 16:33#31

No Strzok - your nightmare caused by Labuschagne is back in full force.

Go to the item on refereeing started by Rooinek  and see what World Rugby thinks of the refereeing thus far.   Always 100% wrong in everything - is it not time that you stop your BS?  So World Rugby is wrong and you are right?  LMAO

By the way World Rugby put Lawrence on leave after the test you referred to - will the same be done to Garces?  

LMAO  

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
24 Sept 2019, 16:40
#32
24 Sept 2019, 16:40#32

Well on another note, I dispute the three Bok "knock-ons" below.

41:08 Steph - clearly backwards

72:55 Pollard - clearly backwards

80:53 Mapimpi - straight at worst, Willie actually catches the ball behind Mapimpi as it bounces out of the latter's hands without it hitting the ground. If that was a pass from Mapimpi to Willie there was no way you would call it forward, so why is it ruled a knock?

BL
BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
24 Sept 2019, 16:48
#33
24 Sept 2019, 16:48#33
Finally Mozart a man who knows his rugby shit.............you good at piano too?? Need someone to compose an aria or something for whinging pussies...........lots of meooow notes permissible ..........
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
25 Sept 2019, 01:20
#34
25 Sept 2019, 01:20#34

If Flab Malherbe put on a bit more weight he could balance on his gut, instead of using his knee to prop himself up each scrum. Poor Moody got the blame, but it was clear he was holding the scrum by carrying the weight of Malherbe.

Maybe Clever Duplicate could mention this to the parents of Flab, and maybe check up on what Meyer Bosman's mother says?



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
25 Sept 2019, 01:20
#35
25 Sept 2019, 01:20#35

Clever Duplicate


buy now

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2019, 06:44
#36
25 Sept 2019, 06:44#36

Listen shitbrain - nobody needs your moronic personal attacks on site.   

I would rather listen to what Proudfoot said on the issue of the scrumming than what you invented,   I would add to that -  read the statement of World Rugby and remember what Proudfoot said on the issue and it is clear that things went badly wrong in the AB game.

It is clear that unlike the whimpering Meyer did previously - Erasmus took the matter up with World Rugby and that they publicly reacted on the issue.   

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2019, 06:44
#37
25 Sept 2019, 06:44#37

Duplicate  

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
25 Sept 2019, 12:18
#38
25 Sept 2019, 12:18#38

Another duplicate CleverTrever , you need to think about reducing your posts, not increasing the BS. Although, the duplicate post that is blank is perhaps your most objective contributions. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2019, 20:50
#39
25 Sept 2019, 20:50#39
Muck it's painfully obvious WR was forced to speak out because of the outrage surrounding the missed high tackle by Hodge. There is absolutely nothing in what they say that bears on the scrumming revisionism we heard from Proudfat.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Sept 2019, 19:57
#40
26 Sept 2019, 19:57#40
There you go Dave.....pics are clear....Malherbe's knee is on the ground Moody's elbow 6 inches off the ground .. . Case closed.
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