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ABs team to face Ireland named

Started by Brycy10 REPLIES204 VIEWS· 03 Nov 2016, 18:09
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2016, 18:09
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03 Nov 2016, 18:09#1
...ALL BLACKS: Ben Smith, Waisake Naholo, George Moala, Ryan Crotty, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (captain), Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Jerome Kaino, Patrick Tuipulotu, Owen Franks, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
 Reserves: Codie Taylor, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden, Malakai Fekitoa.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2016, 18:18
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03 Nov 2016, 18:18#2
...Shorn of Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick because of injury, and with Luke Romano on bereavement leave, Steve Hansen has turned to 75-test veteran Kaino to provide ballast in the unfamiliar environment of the second row for the All Blacks' test against Ireland in Chicago on Satruday (Sunday morning NZT).

Operating in the guts of the scrum isn't totally foreign to Kaino, but he is best known as one of the most intimidating blindside flankers in the world - when picked there.

Aaron Smith returns to the All Blacks side for the test against Ireland.
Although the match at Soldier Field will be his first start at lock, where he will partner Patrick Tuipulotu, he has previously, on rare occasions, been responsible for providing cover for that position when no specialists have been listed on the bench 
All Blacks coach Hansen could have rushed the uncapped Scott Barrett in to start, and has also had Vaea Fifita on standby in Chicago, but Kaino's experience couldn't be ignored.

The reshuffle results in Liam Squire being asked to start at No 6 for just the second time.

"Jerome is very comfortable in the position, and we just thought it was a big ask for a young fellow," Hansen said in reference to the decision to place inexperienced specialist lock Barrett on the bench.

"There is a lot to take in, so we try to make it as simple as possible for him (Barrett). But we are very confident he will do very well when he comes on. He is a very sharp cookie. He has impressed us."

Tom Franklin, who is in Chicago with the NZ Maori side and joined the All Blacks as injury cover in June, could have been asked to switch teams but Hansen had to consider whether that would disrupt the Maori team's preparations for their game against the United States.

In the end it was Kaino's experience and reliability that convinced the selectors he would provide the right balance. The fact he trained as lock cover during the World Cup, when just three specialists were taken to Britain, last year also offered Hansen some comfort.

If Ireland's giant lock Devon Toner, who stands 2.10m, is involved in this match he is likely to be under strict instructions to do all he can to disrupt Dane Coles' lineout throws, although the New Zealanders have often survived onslaughts from tall opponents in the past by reverting to short lineouts or using explosive jumpers at the front.

Kaino stands 1.96m, while Tuipulotu is 2cm taller.

"All we are missing is a little bit of height, which is one of those things," Hansen added. "We have plenty of jumpers to pick from. We have two locks and three loosies that can jump, so we have got choices."

Hansen also said captain and No 8 Kieran Read could be asked to shift into lock if required, although that seems unlikely.

Seven changes have been made to the side that set a tier-one world record of 18 consecutive wins by beating Australia 37-10 in Auckland on October 22.

Tuipulotu had to get a starter's number because of the dearth of fit locks, and Sam Cane replaces Matt Todd at openside flanker.

Halfback Aaron Smith returns after being stood down from the previous tests against the Aussies and South Africa, a legacy of the fallout that followed an incident in a toilet in Christchurch Airport in September.

George Moala comes in at centre because Anton Lienert-Brown was starting to tire from a heavy schedule, and Waisake Naholo starts on the right wing.

Hansen said he had no qualms about selecting Smith after the recent controversy.

"Aaron Smith is the best halfback in the world, so why wouldn't you play him? He has served his penance. More than probably most, I would say.".
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2016, 18:44
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03 Nov 2016, 18:44#3
 "Jerome is very comfortable in the position, and we just thought it was a big ask for a young fellow," Hansen said in reference to the decision to place inexperienced specialist lock Barrett on the bench.

"There is a lot to take in, so we try to make it as simple as possible for him (Barrett). But we are very confident he will do very well when he comes on. He is a very sharp cookie. He has impressed us."


This is what our fans just don't get.....young players need experience around them and a proper introduction to test rugby.


That said having a cobbled together second row provides Ireland something to attack....in the scrums, mauls  and lineouts. It might keep things a bit closer, at least for 60 minutes.

The weather in Chicago is beautiful today, crisp fall weather with clear skies.....Can't wait to see Barrett, Smith, and Ardie Savea in particular. Of course it was on Soldiers Field Savea was caught from behind by his E agles opposite when seemingly away....perhaps he will set the record straight in Chicago.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2016, 18:57
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03 Nov 2016, 18:57#4
 ...does'nt look like the ABs have lost any strike power at all losing Whitelock and Retallick given the quality of their replacements...pretty dangerous looking backline to boot and a solid bench, what could go wrong?..
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2016, 19:15
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03 Nov 2016, 19:15#5
Well you are up against the famed Stampkar, the man who nobbled Lambie.....perhaps Barrett should keep a weather eye for flying Irishmen.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
03 Nov 2016, 19:22
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03 Nov 2016, 19:22#6
 ...You have to look fairly hard to see that the ABs have in fact made seven changes...the forums i've read have some of the Irish smacking their lips given the injuries to a few ABs players but they might be in for a bit of shock and awe...seriously who are the x factor players in the Irish backline that we need to worry about?..
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Nov 2016, 19:44
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03 Nov 2016, 19:44#7
Some folks think Sexton is x factor, Cant see it myself. BOD was the last Irish back great in my view....and he was terrific particularly in the.Lions series against Ireland.
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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Nov 2016, 21:57
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03 Nov 2016, 21:57#8
What happened to Dagg? 
The ABs have selected two power runners on the wing so they will lose Dagg's boot and his ability under the high ball. They will miss ALB; I haven't seen Scott Barrett play so will be interested in how that goes.
ABs should be all right but I will be interested to see how the forwards go. Hansen is prepared to experiment as we have seen before.
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
03 Nov 2016, 23:36
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03 Nov 2016, 23:36#9
 Ireland team named

Ireland:
15.Rob Kearney, 14.Andrew Trimble, 13.Jared Payne, 12.Robbie Henshaw, 11.Simon Zebo, 10.Johnny Sexton, 9.Conor Murray; 8.Jamie Heaslip, 7.Jordi Murphy, 6.CJ Stander, 5.Devin Toner, 4.Donnacha Ryan, 3.Tadhg Furlong, 2.Rory Best, 1.Jack McGrath.

Reserves: 16.Sean Cronin, 17.Cian Healy, 18.Finlay Bealham, 19.Ultan Dillane, 20.Josh van der Flier, 21.Kieran Marmion, 22.Joey Carbery, 23.Garry Ringrose.
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
04 Nov 2016, 08:22
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04 Nov 2016, 08:22#10
 Still a great side. Abs just have expereince around the young guys. Kaino should be okay at lock. Abs lacked physical presence againgst Ireland last time. Should be better this time around. Some different changes. Moala noticable. But every time he is picked for the abs, he has been great. So I am sure he well be again. No Dagg. Hmmm. But guess Abs well just have to employ a power game. Not so much the tactical stuff. 
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Nov 2016, 08:40
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04 Nov 2016, 08:40#11
 Having youngsters surrounded by experienced, on form players is one thing ... but it's entirely different when the "experienced" players are tired and lack the necessary drive to lead by example.
It is entirely different when the so called experienced players aren't on form and haven't seen any decent form for the last few seasons. 
They impart nothing of value and shouldn't have been in the mix to begin with. 
The All Blacks bring youngsters in to play along side guys who are in top form. The best in the world. They lead by example and inspire the youngsters to lift their game. 
The Goats give handouts to unmerited players and expect them to make giant strides along side the tired, the shot, the elderly, the hasbeens of a decade back. 
There in lies the difference between us.
That's what Mozart wanted to say ... but it must have slipped his mind.
  



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