It was quite poor.
I was watching only part of the game and what I have seen indicated problems at present and in future for the AB's - I gave my comments on that elsewhere,
By the way White's Bull team struggled to beat the Griquas on Saturday - so to die not look good for now. I would rather have Erasmus's opinion on rugby issues than that of White,
Rassie? He'll hit Naber with a text asking for an response for you. José Middle-Man Erasmus.
NZ were awarded a try that should not have stood....Savea, I believe it was, put his foot clearly into touch but the try was given.
They also should have been penalised in extra time at the end of the match, right in front of the posts. They weren’t and the game ended in a draw.
Much like the 2011 WC, where rightful champions France, should have been awarded any one of two penalties at the death.
CM pleased to see that you are back.
Unfortunately Rugby finds itself in this position all too often. The outcome of this match has ultimately been decided not by the merits of the players but by the abilities of the man with the whistle (and his assistants).
Watching the game....dubious penalty for holding on against Oz a metre out.....I doubt the player was released in the tackle.
Savea playing at number8 showing why he is the best blindsider extant with his tackle busting runs
Ardie Savea 9 runs 45metres....5 defenders beaten. Numbers Dud Toit can only dream about. When last did Dud beat 5 tackles....would you believe never?
Cane missing White off the side of the scrum was reminiscent of the Welsh try in the WC semis, but at least unlike Dud Cane got back to make the tackle.
The Ioane non try was a major screw up by the centre but he did back up the break.....if that was Dud Allende he would never have made the effort to catch up with Mo’unga’s break and even if he did, he would have been lost for pace.
Oz should be way up at the half.
I have to agree with Saffex, not all loosies should be judged on meters alone. Also, any good coach would tell you not to run away from your support. What is the point streaking 20 m down the field only to go into to touch, tackled or being turned over.
PSDT covers a lot of ground, makes a lot of tackles and draws in a lot of defenders which in return creates space.
We use to criticise Alberts too, but some players are there to do a job and play what the coach has asked.
I can't believe some on here are criticising our world player of the year!!
Steph is a poor defender, poor reader of play, slow and stodgy carrier and has average hands by lock standards (which is what he is). Not a world class player, not a great test player. 17th ranked flank in Super rugby 2019. Averaged 1.7m per stodgy carry contributing to Stormers and Bok dreary and predictable phase play.
Agree....the man is a process tackler. Energetic....yes. Skilled no. He is too clumsy and slow off the mark to play flank. You used to believe that Dave, but changed your mind based on 2 games where the Bok pack was dominant.
I take your point Corn....but as the designated ball carrier if you can’t make open metres, you have to be able to break tackles like Alberts....or offload like Schalk did late in his career.
Stephanie does neither....he is a 1 metre per run dead end,
Dave look at the turnover Savea produced after the Hodge kick hit the poles.....brilliant game saving stuff. I prefer that to plodding energy. So Savea and Matera are blindsides in the RC who can break tackles....we need a ball carrier, not a recycler.
Dud needs to play lock, especially now as he c loses in on 30....but to me he is about our third best number 5.
Matera "up there"? Matera is several levels above Steph. We could only dream of a player like him in our back row. Steph would never make it playing for Los Pumas.
17th best flank if 2019. 1.7m per carry, taking 28th of all SA ball carriers for the 2019 season, has high missed tackle rate, has exceedingly poor distribution rate, routinely flubs defence in the interior - which alarmingly doesn't show up in stats, which makes his high miss rate even worse. Ja boet, case closed
AO
Are you the bottom of the class when it comes to knowledge of rugby - I am sure you are. I asked you amongst others a simple question - which in your dislike of Erasmus you totally ignore.
You apparently admire Meyer and spoke highly of Coetzee - but after them coaching the Boks both of them were fired for gross incompetence by the NH Clubs they coached, Please explain how two coaches who flopped on club level will be acceptable as coaches of the Springboks. I am really looking forward to your explanation on that issue - we are a bit shoirt of humor on site and that would be a really laughable one.
Mozart
You indeed are a nutcase too. Knowledge of rugby is not your strong point. You attacked Du Toit a number of times for being on the outside and getting the ball in the wing position - but when Savea does exactly that - you praise him for his bsll carries in that case.
Let me give you a bit of advice too - village idiot. The AB's are struggling up front and I would rather play Ioane ahead of Savea at 8. Hansen who knows a lot more about rugby at one stage used Savea very sparingly - amongst others because his contribution to forward play is seemingly not what it should be - he is way to often doing what Matfield specialized in - standing around in the backline for spectacular carries - and that will count against him as a loosie.
I still think Savea's best position is at openside flank anyway, He is a light weight 6'2' (1,88) player where you used to prefer to the slow and very heavy Alberts as a loosie, What happened here now? Is it your desperation to try and use Savea in your continuous attacks on Du Toit as an example? I still prefer Akira Ioane at 8. .
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Wanker.....prove Hansen used Savea sparingly.
Hansem did not constantly use Savea when Read and Cane was available and he rarely used him as blindsider as well and seemingly prefer stronger and bigger loosies to strengthen th,e forwards, What about the rest of what I wrote to deal with your drivel
Up to 2018 Hansen used Savea selected SA for the AB squads abd ge okayed as follows:-
Start - 15 tests
Bench - 26 tesis
It was only in 2019 that Savea started in all bar one test.
Get the mesaage non- thinker.
I am not interested in your stats at all - because they do not tell the full story. Up to 2019 Savea only started in tests -
* when other AB's such as Read, Cane and other loosies has injuries, had injuries; and
* when the AB's played tests against minor teams.
In 2019 Savea played in all tests - but the AB forward pack was weakened by him being in the team. His contribution to line out play, ball protection and recovery and similar activities expected from a loosie is and never was up to standard. Get that into your thick skull please.
The problem is that the light weight Savea is a loosie that is not really top class in forward play and more playing outside of that - in other words he is playing a completely different game to Du Toit who is a contributing forward and tight 5 player s well. You are therefore too stupid to realize the difference and concentrate only on ball carries.
In any event Savea played for the All Blacks and they were the top team in the world since 2011 coached by a top coach - Du Toit played for he Springboks - up to 2018 coached by two duds who were fired by their clubs for gross incompetence so your comments again showed gross stupidity,. Meyer and Coetzee even managed to lose games against Japan and Italy = remember that, If you rave about test tries scored - look against which teams Savea scored the majorit iof hius tries and you will find Fiji, Samoa, Japan. Italy et al amongst those.
Savea is a good player - but lacks in some respects as to what is expected from a loosie, So wake up to facts for a change stooge. That is what the 8 experts saw when considering him for the player of the year award in 2019 as well - but then you believe that they are fools considering your ravings about the issue.
