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ACKERMANN TO 'TRUST HIS GUT' ON SELECTION POSERS; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jul 2016, 12:47
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11 Jul 2016, 12:47#1

REACTION: LIONS COACH JOHAN ACKERMANN SAYS HE WILL 'TRUST HIS GUT' WHEN HE DECIDES ON THE SQUAD TO TRAVEL TO BUENOS AIRES THIS WEEK.

Ackermann is caught between a rock and a hard place - having to decide if he will rest some key players for the play-offs, or send his A-team to Argentina.

The table-topping Lions will face a vastly-improved Jaguares side in the final match of the league phase of the Super Rugby competition and they will, before kick-off next Saturday, know exactly what is required to ensure they finish top of the competition's totem pole.

However, with four New Zealand teams within four points (a win) of the Lions on the standings, it is likely only victory will suffice for the men from Johannesburg.

The Lions (on 52 points) are being pursued by the Chiefs (51 points), Crusaders (50), Highlanders (48) and Hurricanes (48).

However, those four teams are scheduled to meet each other earlier in the day - which will eliminate at least two from the Lions' equation.

The seven-time champion Crusaders are at home to the Hurricanes, while the defending champion Highlanders host the Chiefs.

Long before Saturday's dramatic final round can play itself out, Ackermann must make a call on who will travel to Buenos Aires for what the Lions coach described as a 'must-win' game, as they want to finish first on the log.

While he will be following his gut, Ackermann said he must "trust all his players".

"I have to trust that [players like] Ross [Cronje], Akker [Armand] van der Merwe and Corné Fourie can do the job," the coach said, when quizzed about the selection poser.

"Somewhere Lourens Erasmus must be entrusted to play in his role."

The players most in need of a break include the Springbok halfback combination of Elton Jantjies (No.10) and Francois de Klerk (No.9), flank and current captain Jaco Kriel, lock Franco Mostert and prop Julian Redelinghuys.

One or two other key players - new Bok wing Ruan Combrinck, centre Lionel Mapoe and hooker Malcolm Marx - could also benefit from avoiding the arduous trip to Argentina.

Bulls coach Nollis Marais, fresh from his own team's demise at the hands of the Jaguares in Buenos Aires just over a week ago, said the travel factor is the biggest challenge.

He felt that the Lions have more depth in their squad than the Bulls do and could probably get away with resting some key players.

"The problem with Buenos Aires is that the travel there [including a five-hour stop-over in Brazil] is 26 hours," Marais said.

"Then you must hope it doesn't rain," he said of the monsoon-like conditions the Bulls experienced during their 11-29 loss in Buenos Aires just over a week ago.

"It is also difficult to travel back and play," the Bulls mentor said, adding: "The [South African] teams only arrive back on the Monday and then the team's preparation only starts on the Tuesday.

"The Jaguares remain a difficult side to beat in Buenos Aires."

Ackermann will announce his tour squad on Wednesday, when the team departs for Argentina will also be revealed.

@rugby365com

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jul 2016, 13:13
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11 Jul 2016, 13:13#2
Glad at least one SA team is top drawer. Kiwi teams are beating the crap out of Oz & SA needs the Lions badly. 
What a disappointment both SA & OZ teams have been in this comp. Stormers are high up the table but I'm not convinced. They are top of the SA 1 conference & third overall given the "weighed" system used. They have 46 points which sees them ahead of the Saders who have 50, Highlanders 48, Canes 48. It is good to see Kiwi teams using a similar approach to the game across the board, i.e. tough & aggressive defense with a high risk high reward attack. They have the skills to pull it off. This similarity in the way they play the game has to help the ABs.
Their attack stats are mediocre: 11th in tries scored & the other attack stats are much the same. They are better on defence: 4th in tackles success but 10th in line- out success & near the bottom in scrum success. One ray of hope is they are 4th in turnover success.
We will see how the finals go but clearly the Lions are SA's best hope. 
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
11 Jul 2016, 14:09
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11 Jul 2016, 14:09#3
 very risky to rest players next weekend,....... jaguares are a dangerous side,...... can beat any team in their day,...... and lions need the victory to be first in the feeding order,..... home advantage is fundamental

Besides, players like Jaco Kriel barely played in June (20 min.),.... Redelinghuys played 15,20 and 30 minutes,...... Marx played 30 and 60 minutes with SA-A (resting one week before and one after these 2 games) ,...... Mostert played 12 and 7 minutes,..... doesn't seem they need to rest

backline players are not so much affected by the game-stockpiling,........ anyway, Mapoe seems the only one who could have problems in this sense having played all the 3 bok matches and all the lions' games since the 3rd round,...... the rest have had their rests
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
11 Jul 2016, 14:20
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11 Jul 2016, 14:20#4
 We must secure top spot. 
It makes winning this thing so much easier.
Who knows whether such an opportunity will come a knocking again. 
Take advantage of it. 
Go Lionsssss!!
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
12 Jul 2016, 10:28
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12 Jul 2016, 10:28#5
ABasque is right...a high risk venture...a double-edged sword. I'd rather think Ackermann should take each step as it comes...bear in mind it's best to get this one done and finished...I suspect the Jags will be dangerous and treat this one as their only accolade in what has been a learning curve in their first introduction to super rugby and their adaption to this new style of competition but will regard this one as a sort of international test...their focus could well be different to what has been disappointing introduction for them...next year they could well be different and better prepared.

Ackermann should make sure to get this under his belt first and worry about the next step afterwards. Sending a weaker side could well interfere with the Lions ongoing momentum...this is a must win and this is where the competition will be toughest.


CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Jul 2016, 11:49
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12 Jul 2016, 11:49#6
 I believe the Lions are mentally prepared for the coming match. They know what's at stake and will give it their all to secure top spot.
Go Lions!!!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jul 2016, 12:10
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12 Jul 2016, 12:10#7
 CC - I po sted the team - what do you think about it? 
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
12 Jul 2016, 12:51
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12 Jul 2016, 12:51#8
 Uauh!!!!!    

didn't expect this,.... lions are going to rest all the incumbents and play with a B-side (or C).


Lions

15 Sylvian Mahuza, 14 Koch Marx, 13 Stokkies Hanekom, 12 Howard Mnisi, 11 Anthony Volmink, 10 Jaco van der Walt, 9 Ross Cronje (c), 8 Cyle Brink, 7 Robert Kruger, 6 Stef de Witt, 5 Lourens Erasmus, 4 Martin Muller, 3 Jacques van Rooyen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Corné Fourie

Replacements (two to be omitted) :

16 Ramone Samuels, 17 Clinton Theron, 18 Pieter Scholtz, 19 Fabian Booysen, 20 Ruaan Lerm, 21 Dillon Smit, 22 Jacques Nel, 23 Shaun Reynolds, 24 Bobby de Wee, 25 Ashlon Davids



I believe Ackerman is facing this wrongly,...... this side will lose against the Jaguares which means they are not going to top the log,..... and they are going to face a kiwi team in QF instead of the sharks,........ very risky IMO
I would prefer to face the sharks even with a more tired squad than to face a kiwi team with the sqad rested



OI
oimateyPro1,870 posts
12 Jul 2016, 15:41
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12 Jul 2016, 15:41#9
Yep - better believe the Jaguares would love to spoil the Lions party and sending this team to their place is going to make it a whole lot easier.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Jul 2016, 16:06
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12 Jul 2016, 16:06#10
 I'm worried, Mike!!
I expected a few changes but not the entire touring side. 
Ackerman is risking a lot here. 
It's not what I would have done. 
Your comments?
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
12 Jul 2016, 18:06
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12 Jul 2016, 18:06#11
 Stupid VFS Ackers. You don't give away a guaranteed top spot. Yes, whoever the new top spot might be, might not make it to the end, but why gamble now, after a whole season of hard work? I hope they stay on top, but this is stupid.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Jul 2016, 19:53
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12 Jul 2016, 19:53#12
 When I saw the team it was clear it was not even the "B"- team.   Some CC players in there and that is worrisome.   If the Lions loose - the play-off opponent is not at all clear - but I think Ackerman may believe that he has the ammo to beat any comers.  Must say - I would not have taken a chance like that.   However, the opponent is likely to be a NZ team - so Ackerman may think with a rested team he could make hay against a team that has a hard game this Round and have to travel as well.   May be some method in his madness.    
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
12 Jul 2016, 19:58
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12 Jul 2016, 19:58#13
I don't agree with his choices but must bow my head to a man who "trusts his gut". It is an attitude that comes from men with deeper knowledge and insight than the non- thinking and ignorant herd...certainly a man of courage and vision who takes a calculated risk...I think I understand his stance, risky yes but being a man who sees the bigger picture is prepared to place risk in as a well known factor in achievement.

Ackermann is different to the run of the mill Saffa coaches who sees strength in a team of committed players...not the individual, the individual yes is important but has lesser qualities to a combined unit...men that work in unision and yes he is taking a chance, a a calculated risk but he believes in his lads and what's even more important that he seems to have the ability to impart this in his players...so different from the rest of Saffa coaches and I believe we have a visionary here despite our rascist selections...Ackers could well be a saviour of the little good that's left in SA rugby.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Jul 2016, 02:22
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13 Jul 2016, 02:22#14
 NZ Herald article on resting players

Why the Lions naming a weak team is both good and bad for NZ sides, NZ Herald


Lions coach Johan Ackermann has named a second string side for Sunday's Super Rugby match against the Jaguares in Buenos Aires.

Ackermann has made 15 changes to rest his first string side ahead of the playoffs.

It opens up the possibility of the New Zealand conference winner securing top spot on the overall log and home advantage for the playoffs.

In the scenario of the Lions losing they would still host a quarter-final and a semifinal before travelling potentially for the final.

Nigel Yalden: Super Rugby Team of the Week

It also means two New Zealand sides will likely have to play their quarter-finals in South Africa next week against the Stormers and Lions.


"It opens up the possibility of the New Zealand conference winner securing top spot on the overall log and home advantage for the playoffs.

In the scenario of the Lions losing they would still host a quarter-final and a semifinal before travelling potentially for the final."

My comment : So it is a calculated gamble but it makes more sense to me now.


BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
13 Jul 2016, 09:11
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13 Jul 2016, 09:11#15
 Imo. its a big mistake ............... hope that I'm wrong but I can't see that team of nevillenobodies beating the Jaggies at home (or at EllisPark) .
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Jul 2016, 10:28
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13 Jul 2016, 10:28#16
I think this decision is based more on not risking injuring players, than it is on not having them play too much. Can you imagine where the Lions would be if the lost one of, or any combination of Jantjies, Mapoe, Combrink, Redelinghuis, Kriel, De Klerk etc etc? It is a risk, make sure you make the playoffs with all your best players, or make sure you top the rankings? Tough choice, but I would have gone with the "guaranteed win" against the Jag's, and top the rankings. 
We'll know soon enough if his gamble pays off. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
13 Jul 2016, 22:24
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13 Jul 2016, 22:24#17
Number one position in the log is the only way for the Lions to win the tournament. They are not going to travel to New Zealand and win a semi or final. 
Now the Lions will have to hope that the opposition slips up
I am sure this is a mistake. Some of the players could have rested during the quarter-final. 

However, the Lions could surprise us. A sign of a well coached team is new players slotting into the systems seamlessly- so hopefully the Lions win.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Jul 2016, 00:40
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14 Jul 2016, 00:40#18
 Toothless Lions try to emulate Jamie Joseph Link to article
It worked for the Landers last year so the decision to rest his best players is not entirely new & could work. He's taking a calculated risk, will the fickle fans stand behind him if it backfires?
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