After Evan Roos's sacking

one is left to question the thinking of R&N. What is it about ordinary Jasper Weise that finds favour with them and disfavour with Roos.....the mind boggles. Poor Roos must be thinking what  he has to do to be part of the Bok squad. Jasper Weise is useless and dumb and if he were a POC he'd be regarded as a Quota. 

I'm afraid to say the combination of R&N has turned into a dead end, they have nothing further to offer instead they continue to blunder with a basic archaic gameplan on top of failing to add to a new generation of youth to the squad.

Whoever takes over from the two turkeys will have to start from scratch.

As for the upcoming test against the Wallabies, I wouldn't read too much into a Bok win, the Wallabies have lost several front line players including star playmaker and flyhalf Quade Cooper.

I read that he is being considered for the Argentinian games. Although it may also depend on the form of Vermeulen. 

What does it matter....is there another rugby nation who hogs players that are past their used by date.

.....geez I used to think the Thorn Bird Boks only had to contend with useless coaches, a primitive gameplan, quotas.....but now you also have to add geriatrics to the list.

The geriatrical XV. A new list for Saffex!

Duane Vermuelen is always one injury before retirement, but I suspect his form will improve. It can't get worse than last week. 

Frans Steyn has the rugby brains of a genius trapped in the body of a retired prop. He is still reasonably quick given his state. His rocket boot gains a lot of metres from the back. 

The old battle-experienced players returning from injury are always one game away from an embarrassment, but they often still play well. 

I don't know what you're complaining about, Stupid.

You like the dumb approach. We all know that.

De Lindy is after all the best 12 in the game today, right?

He doesn't put the talented 13 into space ... and takes the entire backline out of the match. Just the way you like it. 

So stop whining, Stupid.

Kolisi isn't able to make on field decisions without the aid of his fellow players. Is that thick enough for you?

You've told us all how much you admire this chump ... to the point of claiming him to be the best 6 in the game today.

Stop complaining, Stupid. They are playing to a plan you approve of.

He's had some kind of welcoming hasn't he?.......our most prodigious talent, that is......thrown in at the deep end against Wales then dropped from the squad like a lead balloon. The poor kid's confidence must be shattered thanks to the national coaches. That said the two clowns wouldn't know how to handle his amount of talent and skill.

It's nothing new, Denny.

This racist regime has been overlooking class acts for decades now.

Why do you think we've lost so many talented youngsters over the years?

We cannot afford to have an absolute wizard white player playing for the Boks. They would highlight the incompetence of the quotas around him ... make them look bad.

People like Stupid may suddenly wake up from his deep slumber and complain.

So ... we do away with the talented youngsters and select the sub standard players to make the quotas look better than they are.

Everyone is happy.

Especially the club that's contracted the young talent from South Africa. He's even offered a citizenship.  

Example ... everyone is raving about Gelant on this board.

The truth behind it all is that he's useless. 

He's probably better than the rest of the riff raff and so he qualifies for the word "merit"... but if we had the true talent still playing local rugby we would see Gelant for what he really is ... an average club player.

Sadly ... this chump is knocking on the door and the rest of you want to welcome him in. 

He was a chump years ago ...what has happened over the last 2 - 3 years that's turned this mediocre wannabe into a superstar?

Nothing!! That's what.

He is still the same chump today that he was yesterday.

Breaks my friggin heart.

The way they've handled the introduction of Roos and Louw to the international stage has been mindless.

Louw was good on debut. He seemed to get better the longer he was on the field.

 I don't think Roos made the best cameo, but was probably getting used to the Rasnaber System.

Well its basically a System that only allows for certain players and strictly the 1 Gameplan.....this is not a Rugby coach that accommodates all player styles, Roos is a example of this.....players that actually do fit in, are slowly but surely stripped of there innate Rugby Brain and transformed into R&N Zombies that think what they say and nothing else.....DDA is a perfect example of this.....together with Political transformation, it's a Fuck Up of note!!

Well, we have thrown 3 caps away on Vermeulen who is now 36, which should have gone to Roos or Louw. 

Agree on the Rassie system. Remember watching an interview with Francious Louw where he spoke about Rassie telling him off during training for trying an offload in the tackle. Told him never to do it again or he will get dropped. 

That is why Coetzee and Roos don't fit into their plan. Their tendency is to pop the ball up or run into space. Like Rassie said, he likes to take teams into the gutter. 

Not that I agree with that because we saw what inexperience fat boys can do when the match the boss in size and same weight. NZ matched our physicality, 

Matchups 

1. Ox 1.73 / 114kg (Caps 10) vs De Groot 1.90 / 122kg (Caps 6)
2. Dweeb 1.72 / 108kg (Caps 2) vs Sami Tauikei 1.83 / 115kg (Caps 13)
3. Frans 1.90 / 125kg (Caps 50) vs Tyrel Lomax 1.92 / 127 kg  Caps (16)
4. Eben 2.03 / 122kg (100) vs Whitelock 2.02 / 117 kg (136) 
5. Lood 2.06 / 125 kg (59) vs Barret 1.97 / 111 kg (52)
6. Kolisi 1.88 / 105 kg (66) vs Kane 1.89 / 106 kg (82)
7. Steph 2.00 / 120 kg (61) vs Frizzle  1.95 / 108 kg (19)
8. Thor 1.93 / 120 kg (61) vs Savea 1.88 / 102 kg (62) 

France has a really physical pack too and Ireland have the players, so does England. The bomb squad works when you get the timing right and your backline players don't get injured. But with no RG, Marx, Kitshoff, Turnip head etc it simply doesn't make sense to continue with this. Like NZ showed, just play with width, move the big forwards around and let them empty their tank early. NZ won the game in the last 2 minutes with quick tries using their backs and fresh legs from their bench to put pressure on. Our players were flat out on their feet. 

Rassie tries to pulverise teams where as other teams tries to stretch and tire you out. There is nothing wrong making a statement and getting the physical dominance. 

I have been watching a number of clips on MMA, not that I like the sport at all or find it enjoyable to watch. But you see these big strong guys that can strike well, but then you have a lighter guy just taking the punches, wearing them down and before you know it they take victory with a take down as the bigger fighter has no stamina left. 

Same applies to rugby, you stop the rampage, tire them out and the counter them with speed and endurance. 

2019 was also in way better condition to play this type of game. 

Like I said previously, you simply can't keep this intensity up every game. That is where Rassie falls flat, you can get away in a tournament environment, reduce the risk, wear teams down, multiple games in a short space of time. 

England played the game of their lives against NZ but just couldn't get the intensity right. Where as the boks had an easy run in, Japan, Wales and England even though they lost to NZ. Didn't help that Ireland imploded in the pool games. 

So my point being, any forward with handling skills immediately gets demoted. So until Roos become a basher only, will never see that many test matches under this regime. 

Heaven help us who may be our next coach. Probably Deon Davids or Stick 

This issue centers around Vermeulen.     Ge went AEL in the AB test and had to be replaced  in the first half.   Another disaster will end him being around and I am sure Roos will be back soon.  

Exactly, 30 min, so was dweeb, NZ just rolled out their front row around 55 min. Average for the modern game. Would be a different game if these players had to stay on all game. 

A player like Roos would have played the whole game with maxim effect 

What, 120 kg prop on a frame of 1.72. His body can't bear that weight and not designed. Reminds me of those Sumo wrestlers when the tried MMA. Their charging and slapping can be bone crunching, but they don't last more than 2 minutes. You expect dweeb and Ox to be able to play for 60 min. 

Exactly my point why they couldn't get pass 30 min

Yup ...a doozy of a height.

It's all Erasmus fault... never the shitty fat slobs you half pump a boner to. You fucks never learn a damn thing... new Zealand didn't match your physicality... they exceeded it in both games. Stupid yarpies can't see the forest for the trees. The genius Erasmus has created a game plan that is so good that you stand a bit of a chance of beating good teams despite being stupid, weaker, less skilled and less athletic. You fucks live with your heads I  your assholes... you haven't been the big bad bully boys since the 80s... always talking shit about the Wallabies but they man up every year and very rarely get out gunned for muscle. Always blabbing about your class scrum... but have had two good scrumming years in the pro era... always so fucking talented but can't make any kind of shit happen. Always the fucking losers with the big fucking heads. What a fucking laugh. 

Nice try Grootbek...regards to Kitchener...