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Alister Coetzee's Vision for the Boks

Started by sharkbok11 REPLIES1,511 VIEWS· 01 May 2018, 00:34
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
01 May 2018, 00:34
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01 May 2018, 00:34#1

Year One: 

Coetzee talks a good game about how he wants to play. 

A disaster from the outset, and should probably have lost the home series to the Irish. More embarrassment and the Boks were slammed by the All Blacks with ease.

The Indabas brought a renewed sense of purpose- at least for some. "Everyone" was pulling in the same direction for once. Alister Coetzee promises to resign if results do not improve. 

Year 2: 

BrendanVenter brought a little extra energy to the Boks, but that soon evaporated. Venter calculated his exit strategy to get out before the Sh$t hit the fan. 

Coetzee then lost the first test on the EOYT against the Irish, and it was clear now more than ever that we had a moron as a coach. Someone that should maybe a coach of a pub team at best.

He blamed SARU for everything and anything that went wrong, including having to travel economy class on the flight to Europe and share rooms due to performance. SARU found some else to employ Coetzee in Japan - while he was in a tour on Europe. 


The saga to get rid of Coetzee continues. Coetzee claims he is a better Coach than Rassie Erasmus, and insulted to take a token role. 

He produces a manuscript that proves that everything that happened was due to SARU. He breaks the confidentiality agreement with his employer.



Coetzee seeing hailing a taxi catches a one-way flight to Japan after being thrown under the Springbok Bus. Surprising that anyone would actually want to employ this person. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2018, 01:40
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01 May 2018, 01:40#2
Yep it's not pretty.....let's hope Rassie is better and perseveres when the setbacks come. His history is simply to move on....these coaching jobs are marathons, not sprints. That said the Poms appear to be be shrinking before our eyes....Kruis and Daley now in doubt. Looks like we might be playing a Pom B team.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 May 2018, 02:18
#3
01 May 2018, 02:18#3

What history Mozart?   The one you concocted?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2018, 05:02
#4
01 May 2018, 05:02#4
Concoctions? Ah like the Allende didn't obstruct concoction.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 May 2018, 12:11
#5
01 May 2018, 12:11#5

Mozart

The question was about Erasmuis and to you refuse to answer that.   And the so-called obstruction story was clarified by Pakie - and it was clear that you were talking your normal BS in the case.

Why did you not watch the try scored by De Allende - you ignored that totally.   That was a serious case of BS on the brains as is normal with you.

And Hodge is a seriously defective defender whether you like it or not.   Bad news that one - but you refuse to admit it.  Same as your four favourite centers being the slowest centers in rugby - Fat Fransie, Basteraud, Kerevi and Kuridrani.   But according to you your pet hate centers are slow.   What a farce.    

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2018, 14:15
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01 May 2018, 14:15#6
Why would I answer the question of a liar who when clearly presented with facts....like Allende never "broke through" the line in the Viljoen try, in fact he never even touched the ball....simply refuses to acknowledge his error.
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
01 May 2018, 14:52
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01 May 2018, 14:52#7

And the so-called obstruction story was clarified by Pakie - and it was clear that you were talking your normal BS in the case.

Haha! Well, that's certainly an, uhm, interesting conclusion given the facts presented.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 May 2018, 15:10
#8
01 May 2018, 15:10#8
Would you say my facts were correct Pakie?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 May 2018, 15:26
#9
01 May 2018, 15:26#9

The "you"  referred to the Mozart BS first spread after the thread was started.  His normal attack on De Allende was false as per normal.   What the BSter does not want to admit is that Hodge - a poor defender at best - had space to go for Viljoen with crashing into De Allende.   

What was worse - h refused to admit that De Allende scored a good try beating three defenders in the process - according the thick idiot at never happened.   When challenged on that he was as devious as he normally is.  

Problem is because of his pert hates he cannot assess player performances objectively.   That makes him the most ignorant member on site with a tendency to lie outright routinely on what happened om the field op play.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
01 May 2018, 15:51
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01 May 2018, 15:51#10

Would you say my facts were correct Pakie?

Pretty much.

What the BSter does not want to admit is that Hodge - a poor defender at best - had space to go for Viljoen with crashing into De Allende.  

Not really. De Allende ran right into the line Hodge had to run to reach Viljoen. Hodge's defensive capability is beside the point. A non-carrier made contact with a defender in a position to influence play. Penalty.

Anyway, I'm done with this particular incident now. It's bog standard obstruction, hardly worth pages of discussion.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 May 2018, 16:11
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01 May 2018, 16:11#11

As was the first one mentioned by me?   There was no way that a full back did not have the space to pass De Allende and go for the defense against Viljoen  - there was ample space netween te goal line and De Allende - as well as behind De Allende for Hodge to use.  

However, I agree the matter should be left there and it will nor be worthwhile to continue the discussion on the issue.    

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
02 May 2018, 22:24
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02 May 2018, 22:24#12
I am convinced Rassie will be better than Coetzee. There is some quality talent from all races to put together a team that is competitive on merit. 
The backline has more depth in players of colours than the forwards, so that is a big area for Rassie to work on. 
Willemse and Bosch are both players that could have long international careers for the Boks. Gelant is better than Coetzee.


There are more black players than ever, and the Lions wing duo looks the real deal. Fast, big, good step, and skills. 
AM is probably around the same as Jessica Kriel.

Nykana is underrated and looks fit having finally lost his baby fat. He contribution outside the scrum is solid - and he is one of the few scrummagers that is competent on both sides of the scrum. 
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