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All Black Or All Kak?

Started by Augenöffner17 REPLIES1,165 VIEWS· 10 Aug 2019, 14:30
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Aug 2019, 14:30
#1
10 Aug 2019, 14:30#1

There appears to have been a turning point for this All Black team, it began with that two point loss in Wellington last year. Ever since that time, die Schwazewelle have hit the rocks. It would be naive to rule out a World Cup comeback, they were afterall jaded and horribly out of sorts in 2015's abbreviated Rugby Championship, but something is clearly amiss . This team doesn't possess the steady leadership and poise of many of those legendary All Blacks. McCaw, Nonu, Kaino, Smith et al. The unstoppable machine of 2016 and 2017 has been surrounded by nations who have caught up in the rugby arms race, ready to storm their fortress. 

Results since Bok win in Wellington

  1. NZL (34) vs RSA (36
  2. ARG (17) vs NZL (35)
  3. RSA (30) vs NZL (32)
  4. AUS (20) vs NZL (37)
  5. JAP (31) vs NZL (69)
  6. ENG (15) vs NZL (16)
  7. IRE (16) vs NZL (09)
  8. ITA (03) vs NZL (66)
  9. ARG (16) vs NZL (20)
  10. NZL (16) vs RSA (16)
  11. AUS (26) vs AUS (47)

New Zealand were outscored by England and Ireland for tries. The Wallaby loss is the first time New Zealand have been outscored by more than one try since Jake's Boks beat them 40-26 at Ellis Park in 2004, by 5 tries to 2. Quite an achievement, but a worrying occurrence in the present. This team appears to be losing its nerve, with too many questions hanging over the team. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Aug 2019, 15:12
#2
10 Aug 2019, 15:12#2

Can only wonder how our kiwi friends will spin it! The Red wi ll loom large!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Aug 2019, 15:33
#3
10 Aug 2019, 15:33#3

Sure there are some problems in the  AB team and those relates to some of their older players who showed negative signs as to performance,  Read is an example - but Whitelock, Frank and ev en their scrummies seems to have problems.  Ben Smith is another candidate of the over-the-hill category players.  

 The red card of Barrett - a player who is not a test standard lock anyway - cost the AB's dearly.  

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Aug 2019, 15:36
#4
10 Aug 2019, 15:36#4

Fred Flintstone is proving he is no Henry. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,250 posts
10 Aug 2019, 15:38
#5
10 Aug 2019, 15:38#5
All Blacks will need to enter their first rebuilding phase in about 16 years. After the world cup, they will need to reblood the team with youth
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Aug 2019, 15:42
#6
10 Aug 2019, 15:42#6

Kierang braai uit...unsporting attitude takes it's toll...the rub of the green is somehow not always going in their favor no more...and it started at Newlands in 2017 alteady...Great match!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Aug 2019, 18:10
#7
10 Aug 2019, 18:10#7
I guess they never got out of first gear!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Aug 2019, 18:31
#8
10 Aug 2019, 18:31#8

Mozart

That is very funny, LMAO  

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Aug 2019, 18:54
#9
10 Aug 2019, 18:54#9

Maybe we will have to ask our kiwi friends about this .......





...... when they reappear in a week or two... or three.

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
10 Aug 2019, 22:39
#10
10 Aug 2019, 22:39#10
25 year unbeaten run at Eden Park now on the line....
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
11 Aug 2019, 00:33
#11
11 Aug 2019, 00:33#11

Ben Smith should have retired.Too many knocks,he was a great player.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2019, 00:52
#12
11 Aug 2019, 00:52#12
Tend to agree.
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
11 Aug 2019, 04:02
#13
11 Aug 2019, 04:02#13

I think the culture of the ABs is waning. SBW, Mounga and Savea to name a few players with egos bigger than their ability.

I thinkplaying the best 5/8 in the world at FB clearly is tinkering - mounga was shown up as 2nd rate again last night.

Be interesting to watch if AB stick with their experiments for return match in Auckland. They will be desperate to stop the bleeding... and... frankly gonna to be miraculous if Aussies came with 12pts at eden park.

On saying this I think there are a few players that are approaching their use by date... the newer generation seem to lack the fundamentals that make team culture.

Anyway haahahahhahaha will take the record breaking FLOGGING just handed to them lst night... they are whinging about the red card??? seriously mate go and look at a bit of history in the last 3-5yrs - barrett will be sitting on the sidelines for at least another 6wks...

LOLOLOL  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Aug 2019, 04:32
#14
11 Aug 2019, 04:32#14

How's that saying go..."One swallow doesn't make it summer."

There's still a lot of pride in the jersey, a winning culture and the skill and talent to be competitive....... let's just wait and see if the Wallabies can frank their win with another, a week later.

Barrett switching back to 5/8th will make a world of difference.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Aug 2019, 05:40
#15
11 Aug 2019, 05:40#15
Hear, hear Denny, well said. Ps. Correction made to spelling in line with grammar police requirements, lol
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Aug 2019, 06:30
#16
11 Aug 2019, 06:30#16
Here here......is there a dog on this Board?
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Aug 2019, 08:32
#17
11 Aug 2019, 08:32#17

Oubaas se honne!

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
11 Aug 2019, 16:46
#18
11 Aug 2019, 16:46#18

I think it was Brendan Venter who said the All Blacks no longer do the fundamentals as well as they used to, or better than other nations. In his opinion, that was their edge. It certainly looks that way. 

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