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All Black Try 1 - discussion

Started by Pakie7 REPLIES666 VIEWS· 21 Sept 2019, 18:44
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Sept 2019, 18:44
#1
21 Sept 2019, 18:44#1

Something for the pundits to discuss. We've already seen PSDT making some strange decisions on defense, and AB try 1 is another example. I realize it is a near impossible situation to defend due to numbers, but Steph's action here still strikes me as strange.

This is for discussion, not a fight. No one is trying the get anyone. I'm interested in hearing opinions about this.

Frame 1: Below

As the ball leaves the ruck the ABs have two dummy runners heading inside, one visible on this shot, one just outside.



Frame 2: Above

Steph shoots out of line, heading somewhere in the direction of Mo'unga. It is a strange decision - he is never going to get there, nor will he get to the guy waiting deep on the left edge of the screen. Dummy runner two is already in front of the passer and can't get the ball. Steph ends up nowhere pressuring no one.

Frame 3: Below

Rushing the circled guy or any of the blokes heading inside makes little sense - he won't get there and we are well stacked on the inside, while we are thin on the outside. If there was any cutting off to do, it was to the outside. Prime target: Barrett, who was more reachable for a spot tackle or for cutting off a pass outside than anyone else from where Steph started. As it happens, Steph runs into the second dummy runner, achieving nothing.



Frame 4: Above

That leaves a big gap for Barrett to run through, offload to Bridge, easy try.

My take: put pressure on Barrett with the rush instead, you maybe force a slow skip pass, you maybe get him ball and all, you maybe cut off the pass wide. Near impossible situation to defend, but made so much easier with a nothing rush opening a barn sized gap.


What say the pundits? Could this try have been stopped in any way or was it over skedovers from the moment the ball left the ruck?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2019, 18:54
#2
21 Sept 2019, 18:54#2

Duplica te

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2019, 18:54
#3
21 Sept 2019, 18:54#3

I have had enough shit for a day Comey.   Fact is that Mostert missed a crucial tackle - end of story,  I knew you and Strzok will come up with another fable.   

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2019, 18:54
#4
21 Sept 2019, 18:54#4

Duplicate

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Sept 2019, 21:16
#5
21 Sept 2019, 21:16#5

Pakie pretending to be objective. Hahahahaha you fool nobody Pakster you one eyed case. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Sept 2019, 22:38
#6
21 Sept 2019, 22:38#6

The NZ commentators mentioned Du Toit's vokop straight away mentioning it before the replay was shown. Stef's a good keen man but he gets beaten far too often.

Great match commentary Pakie.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Sept 2019, 22:44
#7
21 Sept 2019, 22:44#7

Du Toit was doubtless second only to Cheslin as the best Bok. Immence defence and work rate. Best 7 in world rugby. 

Stick with Beeno and Mallett the ones who know! 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Sept 2019, 22:56
#8
21 Sept 2019, 22:56#8

Thanks Blob, had English commentary on my end. Glad to know it was picked up.

Mike, Mostert missed Lienert-Brown in the leadup to the second try, not this one.

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