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All Blacks coach Steve Hansen hits out at TV replays

Started by hakwa9 REPLIES352 VIEWS· 09 Nov 2014, 06:09
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
09 Nov 2014, 06:09
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09 Nov 2014, 06:09#1

 frustrated Steve Hansen has questioned whether TV producers are influencing rugby games following several controversial incidents during the All Blacks' 24-21 win over England this morning.

Repeated replays on the big screen of Dane Coles lashing out with his boot, and also Charlie Faumuina scoring a try, incited the 82,000-strong crowd at Twickenham to roar their discontent and, as a consequence, referee Nigel Owens stopped the game to demand TMO Simon McDowell see what all the fuss was about.

Welshman Owens prevented Beauden Barrett from attempting a conversion of replacement prop Faumuina's try in the second half, calling for McDowell to inspect footage of the movement.

The TMO said the try should stand.

Repeat showings of prone All Blacks hooker Coles foolishly lashing out with his boot in the 56th minute, when he whacked England captain Chris Robshaw at the back of a ruck, whipped the crowd into a near-frenzy and eventually he was yellow carded.

Last month the All Blacks lost to the Springboks in Johannesburg when Liam Messam's high tackle on Schalk Burger was repeatedly screened at Ellis Park, resulting in the officials unexpectedly reviewing the incident and issuing a penalty that was kicked by Patrick Lambie.

Hansen also questioned whether visiting teams are being unfairly maligned by the TV crews.

"My biggest concern is that the TV producers are starting to have an influence on the game. It is not the away side [that are being advantaged] I might add.''

The crowd also howled with discontent when replays of Aaron Cruden's try were shown; although the All Blacks first five-eighth was adamant he scored, some angles were less convincing than others.

On that occasion Owens, who didn't even consult with the TMO and immediately gave the five pointer, refused to listen to the crowd's complaints.

Hansen suggested that rather the broadcaster's employees being allowed to influence the game, the power be placed in the hands of the coaches or captains.

"When something goes wrong we see a replay 10 times and the referee hasn't seen it, the touch judge hasn't seen it, the TMO hasn't seen it - then we need to bring in a challenge, so if a coach has seen it he can challenge for it or if a skipper has seen it he can challenge for it.''


      This, he emphasised, would be a much fairer outcome for both teams. Hansen also believed the human element of the game shouldn't be removed and people must accept mistakes will be made.

"If they don't see it we don't need a TV producer to replay something 100 times. That is not in the spirit of our game.   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
09 Nov 2014, 07:22
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09 Nov 2014, 07:22#2
It is becoming good entertainment, but the camera man should show both sides equally and not favour a home team.
It will be good at a worldcup with a neutral venu, other than the hosts. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Nov 2014, 07:32
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09 Nov 2014, 07:32#3
Somehow it reminds me of the Roman forum when the crowds influenced the emperor on his decision to let a gladiator live or die. The crowds would chant their opinion & the emperor would give thumbs up or down. Real audience participation, lol but in the case of rugby not necessarily the best decision making process.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Nov 2014, 07:38
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09 Nov 2014, 07:38#4
 kbbs please s top complaining that the truth is coming out and the wee abs are being pinged. The more that happens the better.
Beeno standing for a clean game
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Nov 2014, 08:49
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09 Nov 2014, 08:49#5
 A request to the rotund wee hansen - please stop complaining about refs using replays to get the right decisions. You clearly have no idea how this is perversion is perceived by honest rugby men. Further you are leading ou hacked waaugh astray as he thinks it a travesty the Boks got a penalty (Should have been a yellow at least ) re the disgraceful high tackle on Burger.
Thanks
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
09 Nov 2014, 11:08
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09 Nov 2014, 11:08#6
 Beeno, the crowd influenced the ref to have a look at the legal try he had already awarded the ABs. I blame TV SA for leading the way in this latest nonsense.

As usual it is up to NZ to show the rest of the world the boundaries between the role of referrees and TV.

If we want Stadium TV Producers to also act as referrees then there has to be a legal Doc ument  authorising it and Rules and Regulations adhered to about fair screening for both visiting and host Teams.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
09 Nov 2014, 12:19
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09 Nov 2014, 12:19#7
I agree with Hansen. If all the officials on the field misses something and don't refer it upstairs, let play continue. Biased broadcasting will turn this into an unfair advantage to one side. The Ellis Park incident warranted a penalty, but probably shouldn't have been one since none of the officials picked up on it.

Alternatively, give the captains each one, max two opportunities to call for a review of an incident in the game if they felt the officials missed something.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
09 Nov 2014, 12:23
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09 Nov 2014, 12:23#8
 Yes, allowing the producer to show plays over & over again from an angle that puts the refs call in question can only incite the crowd. It will be another way to undermine the ref. The home  field advantage will become too big a factor.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
09 Nov 2014, 12:46
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09 Nov 2014, 12:46#9
 Its all a jolly old wheeze till its your side on the end of it .I dont want to see any of our teams on the end of some tv producers decision making .It sucks big time for all .We dont want to see a Video Officiated Media Induced Try or V.O.M.I.T now do we ? or the closely related Video Originated Media Idiocy Try Usurping Scenario  or V.O.M.I.T.U.S 
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
09 Nov 2014, 14:57
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09 Nov 2014, 14:57#10
The answer is neutral cameramen producers and crowds. Will always be advantages to being the home side.
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