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All Blacks in trouble

Started by Beeno15 REPLIES124 VIEWS· 10 Jun 2014, 16:42
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jun 2014, 16:42
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10 Jun 2014, 16:42#1

Who will forget Beeno's seminal piece last year about the writing being on the wall for the wee abs. Of course there was wailing and nashing of the teeth by th kkbs and if it were possible poor Beeno would have been lynched and shot for expressing such outrageous views. 

The qualification was that the abs needed to renew their team - the outcome once this was done, if it was done, being uncertain.


Not surprsingly this year, a year later, rugby writers are picking up on what the sage Beeno had said.


Ex Sport 24


Cape Town - The All Blacks won't win this year's Rugby Championship - nor will the finish the year as the world's No 1-ranked side.

There, I said it.

The All Blacks were woeful at best in beating an England 'B' side 20-15 in the first of their three-Test series in Auckland on Saturday.

This England side only arrived in New Zealand during the week and were without players from the top 2 English clubs - Saracens and Northampton - who had contested the Aviva Premiership final the weekend prior.

In addition, they were playing at fortress Eden Park where the All Blacks haven't lost in 31 matches stretching back decades.

While the five New Zealand franchises have been impressive in Super Rugby this year, it's clear that for all their standout performances across the board, that doesn't translate into a formidable starting XV.

It's been belief of mine for some time now that the New Zealand teams lack 'size'. 

The Under-20 Baby Blacks have been monstered of late at the Junior World Cup, while the current All Blacks team lacks bulk. Think flanks Liam Messam and Richie McCaw, scrumhalf Aaron Smith, flyhalf Aaron Cruden, wings Cory Jane and Ben Smith and fullback Israel Dagg.

Sure, they are all talented individuals, but 'size matters' as we all know...(A lesson Dr Beeno has taught for so long yet Mozzzzz is still insisting matfiled is the greates lock ever!!!!)

Despite having at least 12 senior players unavailable, the England second-stringers finished ahead in the territory and possession stakes as well as the number of line-breaks and tackles broken. They also took the only clean lineout steal and only tighthead of the match.

Contrast New Zealand performance with that of Australia's and the Springboks against France and a World XV, respectively, and it's clear the once mighty All Blacks are a team on a downward spiral, which, from a SA point of view, is fantastic news with the 2015 Rugby World Cup a matter of 15 months away...


What say the kbbs is there any counter to such a view. Can the wee abs miraculously renew themsleves????

Please dont shoot the messeger!!! Remain calm and rational and then reply.







sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
10 Jun 2014, 17:15
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10 Jun 2014, 17:15#2
The rules do suit the All Blacks style of play having forwards that are more geared towards being fetchers than carriers. 
I think we are going to see allot of forward packs bully them this year. Need to keep it tight especially at the start of the game, and only go wide when their is overlaps. 
Break  the wee pack in the lineouts, scrums, mauls, and carries on the advantage line and tire them out by making them tackle over and over. Then they will be too tired to fetch and compete well at the rucks to slow down possession and get turnovers. Then the All Black defence will start to fall apart.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
10 Jun 2014, 17:28
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10 Jun 2014, 17:28#3
 Great thinking Sharkbok.
Now who or which team is going to perform this great feat.
Surely not the Boks with Stringbean Victor, Tireless Jannie, 40 minute Bakkies, Morne, Pienaar and Louw supported by Vermeulen.
Not to forget that most test the Boks are only at full strength about 75% of the time because of yellow cards.
I also live in hope but very much have my doubts.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Jun 2014, 17:54
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10 Jun 2014, 17:54#4

Ha ha; yes Beeno you predicted the ABs demise every year for how many years now?  lol

 

Yes, every game plan is designed to get the best from your players & exploit the weaknesses of your opponent. Knowing what to do is different from being able to execute it. Plus, you also need to be able to deal with the unexpected & have players that can adjust on the field during the game.

 

ABs have been able to do these things better than any other team.

 

Yes, we will see how the Mighty ABs do this year - same as we will for every other team.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jun 2014, 22:15
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10 Jun 2014, 22:15#5
 Beeno,  whoever wrote that article is an idiot. Some bold statements in there. The boks does not seem all that settled and not too much can be read into the Ozzie Frogs match. As for the Babyboks, we still need to beat NZ again just to get into the final, so although our boys did well, they haven't won any silverware yet. To start counting chickens before the eggs have been laid is begging for some of those eggs to end up on your face.Let's just get the Red Dragons from our doorstep and get the SR done and dusted before even thinking of the RC.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Jun 2014, 23:15
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10 Jun 2014, 23:15#6
 JW my seminal work regarding teh writing on the wall bit appeared last year. I predictedas the year we would burst forth.Unforunately Meyer has been hypnotised by victor again and its not yet clear whther he will get it right this year. I think his slection for the nations will be very revealing. But even if he gets it wrong he can still sift players for teh WC. The big question is wll the upward trend continue and will Meyer go the ight way.
Draad the wee abs are in trouble if they dont renew themselves. I never would have thought we would be in the same boat. However I am hoping Meyer is just looking at all his options and that rightly includes his older players. Hard test matches should tell him what he needs to do. Wales can do us a big favour by exposing wannabees. 
As for the Junior Boks I grant you nothing is cast in stone. However if they play to potential they should again beat the baby blacks. England will be hard to beat especially if we have this fowl kiwi weather!  
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