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All Blacks leaving NZ to play Club Rugby after 2019 WC

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2019, 11:42
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08 Jan 2019, 11:42#1

The following from News24: -


"All Blacks captain Kieran Read and midfielder Ryan Crotty are off to Japanese clubs after the 2019 Rugby World Cup and Aaron Smith and Dane Coles could follow, according to European media reports.

According to the Stuff website, France's daily sports newspaper L'Equipe reported on Monday that Read would not be joining Paris club Racing 92 for the 2019/20 season and was now likely to join a Japanese club.

France's Rugby Rama website said Read, 33, was being linked to the Toyota Verblitz club while Crotty, 30, was set to sign for the Kubota Spears in a deal to be announced this week by New Zealand Rugby.

Rugby Rama also claimed Read and Crotty would be followed by Smith, 30, and Coles, 32.

The All Blacks have traditionally lost senior players after Rugby World Cup campaigns, but the moves to Japan represent a new trend.

Five members of the All Blacks' last World Cup winning squad - Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Charlie Faumuina, Victor Vito and Colin Slade  - joined French clubs after the 2015 tournament, and five more - Aaron Cruden, Malakai Fekitoa, Julian Savea, Jerome Kaino, Liam Messam and Tawera Kerr-Barlow have since followed the path to France.

Nehe Milner-Skudder has also agreed a three-year deal with Toulon after the 2019 World Cup.

New Zealand, like England, but in contrast to South Africa's policy, do not select overseas-based players for their national team.

If Read does join Toyota Verblitz, he will play under South Africa's 2007 Rugby World Cup winning coach Jake White.

Crotty would be coached by another South African, Frans Ludeke, at Kubota Spears."


The above is no real surprise - some of the potential departures have been discussed on site before, eg Read and Crotty,   The player not mentioned above is Ben Smith - those mentioned includes Coles and Aaron Smith,      Fact is other than Ben Smith the other 4 players mentioned were past their best playing for the AB's this year and thir departure to collect money for their pensions is no surprise at all. 


Not all players departing for the purpose of pension fund build-up to Europe have been all that successful.    I think that Cruden, Fekitoa and Sopoaga were three of the less successful players for their clubs.    Nonu asked for his contract with Toulon to be terminated and he has gone back or is going back to NZ.         

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
08 Jan 2019, 14:37
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08 Jan 2019, 14:37#2
Mikey, it is going to look a lot worse for us post WC! I still can't get my head around the money involved in rugby in Europe and Japan. They have these tiny stadiums that are half empty . One would have to assume that trend carries on with the folks watching at home. Therefore there should be very little advertising revenue. So where doe the money come from? I just don't get it. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Jan 2019, 15:26
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08 Jan 2019, 15:26#3

BB

There is a serious financial problem  in SA Rugby and it centers around the ownership of franchises,    Professional Rugby in SA should - like in Europe and Japan - be privately owned and that would bring in more money into the set-up,  

Sell the shareholding in Franchises off and let SARU manage amateur rugby and not the professional sport other than on test level.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
11 Jan 2019, 08:57
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11 Jan 2019, 08:57#4

The players are in it for the money ... and so they'll follow the mighty dollar wherever it goes.

We don't have what it takes to compete with these countries.

Besides that ... rewarding incompetence is the order of the day here ... our talented players know this ... and that there is no future for them here ... 

I'm all for their exodus ...


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bluebokPro3,977 posts
11 Jan 2019, 12:40
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11 Jan 2019, 12:40#5
CC, I am not arguing that, because if I were are professional rugby player, I'd be doing the same. My question is, where one earth is the money coming from in Europe? It can't just be down to the exchange rate, because then Aus and NZ would be able to compete (more a less). I can't see it coming from advertising, because the stadiums are tiny and they still can't fill em. As Mike says, maybe it has something to do with the fact that the franchises are privately owned, but as far as I can see, ours are also basically privately owned. I mean each major union is run as a separate business, and if that is done well, they are financially v iable. It just does not make sense to me.   
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Jan 2019, 12:51
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11 Jan 2019, 12:51#6

Blue, how many people live in Europe and what kind of buying power do they represent opposed to Aus and NZ?  It's all about the potential markets that can be reached by advertisers.

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