20 Nov 2014, 06:14#1
1. Wyatt Crockett 2. Dane Coles 3. Owen Franks 4. Brodie Retilluck 5. Sam Whitelock 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Richie Mccaw (c) 8. Keiran Read 9. Aaron Smith 10. Beaudan Barratt 11. Julian Savea 12. Sbw 13. Conrad Smith 14. Charles Piatau 15. Ben Smith
16. Keven Mealamu 17. Joe Moody 18. Charles Famuaina 19. Patrick Tuipolutu 20. Liam Messam 21. Tj Peranara 22. Colin Slade 23. Ryan Crotty
20 Nov 2014, 06:17#2
Awesome team. Picking Abs by 13+. Good to see Beudan get a start. Potentially world class
With the solid Slade as cover. DC needs game time. But they made the right decision. Barratt deserves it.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2014, 06:43#5
3ku1
I am a bit surprised by the no 10 situation. Carter seems to be not ready for test level rugby. He actually looked poor on Saturday and that against the Scottish team -so I cn underrstand why he was not included.
But what about Cruden? Is he injured or just out of favour?
I must admit that neither the All Blacks nor the Springboks look really convincing enough on their EOYT and obviously also not the Wallabies. The Springboks lost against Ireland and looked better against England, but on the whole made a mess of their EOYT by losing badly to Ireland.
20 Nov 2014, 07:23#6
True mike. But maybe its a reflection of the end of a long season. And NH teams improoving. All Three SH teams need to make a statement this WE. As for Cruden it may just be rotation. But I think Barrats a talent and deserves the chance. Carters a long way off his best, needs a super rugby season under his belt. Cruden if not starting is not very good off the bench. Tbh elder of started Slade, he looks the goods, reliable goal kicker too. But see how Barratt goes.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Nov 2014, 07:40#7
3ku1
You know I am a Slade admirer - the most underrated flyhalf in NZ. Barrett looks good in certain mactches and barely adequate in others. To my mind he really is an impact player.
As to Carter - the quaetion is whether he will get through Super 15 without a serious injury. I may be wrong - but I think the spirit may be there in his case - but the body took such a battering through the years - that it may be letting him down.
From what I have seen in his latest few matches - Carter has become more of a kicking and passing flyhalf incapable of really imposing himself in a match. He used to be a very good attacking player himself- but there has been no signs of that recently. His kicking is pin-point accurate - but is that all that is required for an international flyhalf? Great as he always was - I think his international career may not survive until the WC next year.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2014, 08:11#8
ou maaaike get a grip man we dominated Ireland as all the stats show and messed up with handling.Against England we were actually 20 points better.All this with the Bok side missing a number of players due to injury and poor selections.
The wee abs are try ing to bolster their pap backline as having a pap pack and a pap backline spells big trouble. Only a ref error allowed them to beat England B.
Carter is a fading star and wee mcaaaw a disastar. Bent read is falling apart against tough packs and the abs scrum is soft as well. Whitelock barely features etc etc.
Go Wales.Wonder if ou rooitwti will still support his beloved abs against WALES?
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Nov 2014, 08:11#9
Boks & ABs experimented a lot on this tour so it is no surprise that the Boks lost & the ABs looked scratchy against Scotland.
A really good team picked this weekend - I agree 3ku1 ! Looking forward to seeing them play: SBW, Barrett; Slade, our starting locks... I could go on & on. ABs should be convincing in this game - they are not taking Wales lightly.
On Cruden, if he doesn't start he doesn't make the team. The reason is he only plays in one position. This makes him vulnerable for the RWC. IMO they should try and get him up to speed as cover for other positions or else they will invest more in Carter, Barrett, Slade as each of them can cover multiple positions and this is what is needed at the RWC.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2014, 08:16#10
JW lets just get the Crude to cover one position first. Apart from scrummie I cant imaginge him ever being able to play elsewhere. He is possibly the frailist wee flyh alf around. Forever on the lookout for Vermuelen etc.
20 Nov 2014, 08:45#11
Oh Beeno your the only one who thinks the way you do. Your also the only who thinks Richies past it. Or abs only wan because of the ref lol. Mate your becoming a clichie. Got anything else to offer other then your nonsensical, ramblings? Statisticalally you cant proove Richies over the hill. Statistically your wrong, statistically Richies never been better. Widely regarded as the best 7 in the world this year. Lets be real you have a serious anti biast towards NZ. All this scrap about Eng B etc. Is utter Bs. It was English full stop. You cant even accept Ireland monstered you. Its pretty easy 28-15 speaks for it self. Nz are well ahead as #1 side in world rugby. Just supeior skill set, particular fitness lvls. I just dont understand the crap you keep spilling out, when you cant bk it up. Anyway All Blacks by 15.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
20 Nov 2014, 08:46#12
Yes, Beeno we are spoiled for choice at most positions. There is no vicious debate among AB supporters about the 10 position or any other. There is no angst, hand-wringing or whinging either. This is because we have a coach and a system that develops players.
We do not dump a player into any position like you guys did to wee Pollard & those before him (too many to list). How many times have we heard about the latest savior only to see the ill prepared chap get injured and/or suffer a loss of coincidence?
At least the wee Lamb is back & looking good & if Meyer manages his time & Pollard's time you might be on the right track with one position. Lock? Loose forward (other than 8?) Outside backs? A lot of question marks Beeno & time is running out.
Please don't let us down again with a sub-standard wimpy performance. Rugby needs the Boks to be their best
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Nov 2014, 09:30#13
Study Beeno's commets kbbs and LEARN.W hat delusional oaks the kbbs are!
If it wasnt for Beeno enlightening they would be without hope!
21 Nov 2014, 09:56#16
Hasbeeno, how come the ABs played England B but only a week later the Boks played England? Explain please without rambling...
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Nov 2014, 12:56#17
Claydog please make that green and gold!
Mooo la it was the tour scheduling- nothing more. No silly con spiracy theories please.Man you guys had the easist tour schedule of all.