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All Blacks: Savea the sole change as Hansen backs his men;NZ Herald

Started by Just_win8 REPLIES167 VIEWS· 11 Jun 2014, 21:39
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jun 2014, 21:39
#1
11 Jun 2014, 21:39#1

Coach resists drastic alterations to line-up as All Blacks look to win series down south. True to form, All Black coach Steve Hansen has resisted personnel change as a means to lift performance in Dunedin, opting to make just one injury-enforced amendment to the starting XV.

Israel Dagg, who has been plagued by minor thigh and knee complaints in recent weeks, has been rested to allow Ben Smith to switch to his preferred fullback role and Julian Savea comes in on the left wing.

The temptation to introduce Kieran Read has been resisted on the grounds he needs to spend this week regaining some of the aerobic conditioning he's lost as a result of his prolonged battle with concussion.

His continued absence means Jerome Kaino will wear No 8 again and win his 50th cap.

Any thoughts of tinkering elsewhere were never seriously contemplated by a selection panel that has consistently taken the view that if players are worth picking once, they are worth picking twice.

Besides, despite the subdued and self-critical response to the Eden Park test, the All Blacks were victorious and not quite as shambolic as some have suggested in recent days.

Without the foundation of slick pass and catch they weren't able to build the phases, generate momentum and play at a tempo they fancy will trouble England.

"We have worked hard on our skillsets, attitude and the detail in our game, which wasn't up to All Blacks standard last week," said Hansen.

"Our mindset this week has been all about improvement, taking ownership and responsibility for our individual roles with the aim of delivering a team performance we can all be proud of.

"We have a strong belief in what we are trying to do and I assume the English do as well. So come 7.35 on Saturday night, it's game on once again. That's what test rugby is all about and that's why we can't wait for Saturday night to arrive."

While no one within the All Black camp has made the assumption they will automatically improve that core part of their game in the second test, they haven't been panicked by their failings.

Confronted with wet and wild conditions on Tuesday, the All Blacks were happy to train outside, knowing that kind of weather sharpens the focus on secure handling and accurate passing. To an extent, they feel if they fix the basics, they will fix their game, hence the lack of interest in making personnel changes.

But fixing the basics is not quite the full remedy. The All Black scrum, after a relatively promising first half, disintegrated in the second.

If England recall Dylan Hartley at hooker, they will most likely become more powerful again and be confident they can win kickable penalties. England's lineout was also impeccable in Auckland.

They didn't lose a throw and didn't look likely too either. Their timing, lifting, jumping and throwing were all perfect and the All Blacks weren't able to even get a sniff of making a steal.

The back three will also be determined to make amends for their poor kick and chase work last week. Their counter attack game wasn't seen as they weren't able to secure possession cleanly from England's contestable kicks.

All three of Jane, Savea and Smith have likely been peppered with bombs at training this week as the All Blacks are anxious to turn what was a strength for England in Auckland into a weakness.

All Blacks v England
Dunedin, 7.35pm Saturday
15 Ben Smith
14 Cory Jane
13 Conrad Smith
12 Ma'a Nonu
11 Julian Savea
10 Aaron Cruden
9 Aaron Smith
8 Jerome Kaino
7 Richie McCaw (c)
6 Liam Messam
5 Sam Whitelock
4 Brodie Retallick
3 Owen Franks
2 Dane Coles
1 Tony Woodcock

NZ Herald

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Jun 2014, 21:42
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11 Jun 2014, 21:42#2
Glad Kieran Read gets one more week to recover/get back into shape.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
11 Jun 2014, 22:18
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11 Jun 2014, 22:18#3
 Great team, with very few changes as always. But this time Hansen &co could have broken a little bit this custom and introduc e Barret in the starting XV, IMO he deserves a chance an is now one step forward Cruden.
Anyway, great team to achieve a big win on saturday
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
12 Jun 2014, 19:31
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12 Jun 2014, 19:31#4
agree that barret is one step forward of crudz (has been all year easy IMO), but its more important that crudz gets the second test starting 10 as that is the ultimate vote of confidence, confidence which players always return with interest.
with the RC/4nats just around the corner, an all cylinders firing crudz to back up carter is going to be important.

very happy to see julian savea, and its a right royal samoan battle royal as NZ born samoan julian savea takes on samoan born englishman manusamoa tuilagi.
manu is also building up a quite a rep vs the All Blacks, in his two tests against us hes been a superstar in all of them, o_O

ben smith at fullback ensures nothing is lost in terms of effectiveness and quality, only flavour.
cant wait to see what ben smith does at fullback, regardless we know it will be better then what he can do at center, lolz,

is ben franks injured??? that is the only good excuse for not having him in the 23, IMO hes is currently the All Blacks best prop, with the added bonus of being proficient at both sides, something none of the 4 above are.

i also think that owen franks needs to pull his finger, much ado about nothing has been his performances and im not only talking about last weekend, im talking about his whole 2014 and large patches of 2013.

faumuina is all right at the tight stuff and set peices, but hes weak in all other areas, IMO ben taumafuina is a much better prospect.

but the highlanders duo of king and hames IMO have been in some superb form, not just with their props to do list, but on defence, ball in hand and linkwork.

if all fit, my front row and bench would be,,,
1 b franks, 2 d coles, 3 c king
16 k mealamu, 17 k hames, 18 o franks

messam is another who prob breathed a sigh of happy relief when he found out that read wasnt playing, his first test of the year was non existent.
all the All Blacks bar kaino and ben smith were bad, but messam IMO has that rap of not turning up to important games. only in the irish test last year did he step up when he came of the bench, and i was very pleased he did.

hopefully messam will turn things around this test, cos vito and kaino are making all the right noise that will soon have hansens attention looking only at them.

should be a good game, and im picking the All Blacks to win by 15,
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
12 Jun 2014, 21:27
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12 Jun 2014, 21:27#5
 Will Barrett also be on the bench against South Africa for you Sasuke? Or not? He does seem to play well against us.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
12 Jun 2014, 21:54
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12 Jun 2014, 21:54#6
@shazza,

yeah barret would be on the bench still against the Boks.
my NZ flyhalf top 3 pecking order is,,'
1 carter
2 crudz
3 barret

if all three were available, i would select carter to start vs the Boks and bench barret and leave crudz out.
but if all three were available and crudz started, i would still leave barret on the bench,  but prob look for some clever rugby accounting to have both carter and barret on the bench.
this is something which can be easily achieved thanks to barrests utility factor.

like u said, barret seems to plays really really well against the Boks who seem to bring that extra something out of him.
coupled with his 2014 spXV form which IMO has easily made him the best 10 in the comp, it would be almost reckless to leave him out against yr boys.

if all players were fit with no injury issues, my backline vs the Boks would be,,,
9 a smith, 10 d carter, 11 j savea, 12 m nonu, 13 c smith, 14 b smith, 15 i dagg
21 t kerr barlow, 22 b barret, 23 c piutau
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Jun 2014, 22:01
#7
12 Jun 2014, 22:01#7
Shezza, I will bite, lol Here are some video clips of Barrett & a few might suggest that he doesn't do too badly as a third string 10 against the Boks 
 Click on this link: Barrett
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
13 Jun 2014, 01:11
#8
13 Jun 2014, 01:11#8
  Fair enough Sasuke, dropping Carter completely out of the equation?
Nonu didn't impress against the English and hasn't impressed me in the few games I've watched against SA opposition in the Super 15.
If Barrett improved his kicking he could reach Carter level, maybe not quite Carter but enough to sit on his table per say.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
13 Jun 2014, 01:52
#9
13 Jun 2014, 01:52#9
 What about Barett at 10, with Carter at 12. Carter is a bit small for an inside center, but he used to play at 12 for the Crusaders many moons ago when Mehtrens was first choice.
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