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All Blacks searching for their identity; NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Sept 2017, 01:12
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03 Sept 2017, 01:12#1

The next two weeks will be about the All Blacks trying to put one hand on the Rugby Championship trophy.

 

Two wins against Argentina and South Africa and they will be in control of the tournament, knowing that if they can follow that with a victory in Buenos Aires later this month, they will, other results depending, be in a commanding position to claim their fifth title in six years.

 

There's a bit more to their thinking than that, though. This current All Blacks side need to further establish their playing identity.

 

The word they are using internally is re-establish: they feel they have to deliver more of the best parts of last year and build a rhythm and style that is unquestionably theirs.

 

What gets easily missed is the relative lack of leadership experience within the team. In the 2012-2015 period when Richie McCaw was captain, Kieran Read was his able and highly involved deputy. But the bulk of the wider leadership team of that period has moved on.

 

Dane Coles, Brodie Retallick and Sam Cane are the only surviving leaders of that previous era. The All Blacks coaches know their new leadership team needs more exposure to tough football.

 

They need game time together, need to be on the park, under pressure and forced to learn their craft the only way that works - by experience.

 

It was experience that built McCaw and the likes of Dan Carter, Keven Mealamu, Conrad Smith and Ma'a Nonu. That leadership group had to be developed, forced to endure adversity and learn from their mistakes.

 

By 2012 the All Blacks had a hugely experienced group of leaders,which was largely why they could play so well for so long, but no one should forget life wasn't always like that.

 

McCaw and his team made mistakes along the way. They lost games between 2008 and 2011 they probably shouldn't have because their decision-making let them down, their composure under pressure wasn't where it needed to be.

 

This current group of leaders are in that same early stage of their development. While the likes of Sam Whitelock, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith and Sonny Bill Williams have ample playing experience, they are new to the leadership business.

 

So while there will be some temptation to change the make up of the side to play Argentina this Saturday in New Plymouth, it's unlikely it will be on a major scale.

 

The All Blacks have made it clear they will approach this year slightly differently - aware that in the last few years they have come out of the Rugby Championship and run out of gas once they have reached Europe.

 

They will look to actively manage workloads to prevent burnout as they come down the home straight and will strategise their selections with a deliberate plan.

 

But it is probable that they will begin that process of managing workloads at the end of the month when they have to play Argentina, South Africa and Australia away from home in a four-week blast.

 

There is plenty of rugby ahead in which they can have a proper look at the likes of Nathan Harris, Scott Barrett, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Ngane Laumape and Waisake Naholo.

 

These players will no doubt win ample game time, but this week and next, it is probable the plan will be to ask mostly the same players who were involved against Australia build and adapt their game to tame on Argentina and South Africa.

 

There will be some enforced change in the back three because of Ben Smith's sabbatical, but that might simply see Israel Dagg start on the right wing, to play that same mentoring, steadying role as Smith, and guide Damian McKenzie and Rieko Ioane through the test.

 

Clearly Williams didn't have a great test in Dunedin but he and Crotty would benefit from more time together in the midfield as the selectors have signalled they are the preferred pairing.

 

They haven't quite gelled yet and presumably the plan will be to give them another 50-plus minutes against the Pumas.

 

Perhaps Laumape will be the midfield bench option instead of Anton Lienert-Brown, but again the Hurricanes midfielder may have to wait until Buenos Aires until he's involved.

 

What also has to be remembered is that the Springboks are flying up the rankings by playing high quality rugby.

 

They have settled into a style that suits them and the All Blacks would be taking a huge risk to experiment with their selections this week, knowing they will be putting their strongest team on the park in Albany the following week.

 

Continuity would be the more sensible approach and the variation to their approach brought by a change of tactical application rather than a change of personnel.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Sept 2017, 01:17
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03 Sept 2017, 01:17#2
 Headline is wrong IMO, ABs are evolving their game as they have for years now. Sure the leadership group is relatively inexperienced but they (in most cases) have been phasing them in for several seasons so that's not a matter of searching for their identity.
I think the author is right about ABs not making too many changes at this point as they need to get more continuity. Others will get their shot gradually.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Sept 2017, 09:31
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03 Sept 2017, 09:31#3
 
Yes ... they do have an identity crisis currently.

Chopping and changing their backline constantly is a clear indication of that.

They seem happy enough with their pack ... even though I don't rate Cane as much of an opensider ... at least they're sticking with him. Can't for the life of me understand why they'd leave such a dynamic player as Savea out of the starting 15.

Their half back pairing seems sorted ... but everything from their to 15 is a mess. Playing midgets at 15 and full backs at wing ... and then the dead average at 13 and an arrogant showboat at 12 who made a right mess of things the last time round.

Boggles the mind.

I wonder ... has Hansen been spending time with Coetzee? They're starting to sound the same ... confused ... lost.





JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Sept 2017, 12:40
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03 Sept 2017, 12:40#4
 CC, Cane is considered to be a solid and necessary component of the back 3 as he does the tough stuff (hard tackles and a lot of them). Savea is a different type of 7, (high octane and flashy). While Savea is rated by most fans over Cane the AB selectors see both of them as critical in their current roles. In fact if Cane is injured the tendency is to bring in Todd to replace him (he's injured right now though) in the same Cane like role. So the ABs have a clear sense of identity on this aspect.
On the backs, changes have been forced by injury and a red card not loss of identity. ABs have made the most of a bad situation by trying out McKenzie and that's good as B. Smith is going on sabbatical anyway. When the regulars become available we will see more stability and building combinations. We will then also see some other younger players getting a shot, e.g. Laumape, Jordie Barrett (once he recovers from shoulder surgery). The selectors have to see what he can do at test level and they need to develop younger players for depth. Standard practice for good coaches. So no loss of identity just good coaching.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
03 Sept 2017, 13:44
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03 Sept 2017, 13:44#5
 I wonder ... has Hansen been spending time with Coetzee? They're starting to sound the same ... confused ... lost.

If Hansen is lost, pity us if he finds himself......AB's are not scrubbing up too shabby if they're lost yet the team is still firmly #1

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Sept 2017, 14:11
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03 Sept 2017, 14:11#6
 I don' t think the wee abs have an identity crises! They have always been and always will be Bok wannabees! Bwahahhahahahahaha
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