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All Blacks squad named for remaining tests; NZ Herald

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Sept 2014, 09:23
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16 Sept 2014, 09:23#1

The All Blacks will have to look to a third-string second-five for the Argentina leg of the Rugby Championship.

Ryan Crotty has been deemed unavailable for the match against Los Pumas in La Plata next weekend as he still recovers from his broken cheekbone.

He will instead play for Canterbury in the ITM Cup next week, before joining up with the All Blacks in South Africa. With Ma' Nonu also out, it means coach Steve Hansen will need to find a second-five replacement, possibly Malakai Fekitoa.

Sam Whitelock, Liam Messam and Jerome Kaino have all been named to return from injury for the Argentina leg and Hansen said they'll have to decide how to re-introduce them.

"Heading back a little bit earlier than we expected, but that's a bonus and we'll see what state they are in when we get to Argentina.

"And whether they start or come off the bench, we'll work our way through that," Hansen said.

Daniel Carter will play for Canterbury next week while locks Dominic Bird and Patrick Tuipulotu will also make their returns through ITM Cup.

Hansen said they want him to have a couple of games for Canterbury first, likely against North Harbour.

"I think they've got a game Friday, he won't be involved in that one, but I think he may play in the next one or the one after that. It'll be up to the Canterbury guys."

Hansen said they're aiming for Carter to make his All Blacks return in the Bledisloe Cup game against the Wallabies in Brisbane in just over a month.

Hookers: Dane Coles, Nathan Harris and Keven Mealamu.
Props: Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Ben Franks, Owen Franks and Joe Moody.
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Jeremy Thrush and Sam Whitelock.
Loose forwards: Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Steven Luatua, Richie McCaw, Liam Messam and Kieran Read.
Halfbacks: Tawera Kerr-Barlow, TJ Perenara and Aaron Smith.
First five-eighths: Aaron Cruden, Beauden Barrett and Colin Slade.
Midfielders: Ryan Crotty, Conrad Smith and Malakai Fekitoa.
Outside backs: Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Charles Piutau, Julian Savea and Ben Smith.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Sept 2014, 09:27
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16 Sept 2014, 09:27#2
 Good to see Charles Piutau, Nathan Harris, Tawera Kerr-Barlow in the squad.We haven't heard much about Piutau lately & Harris needs to get some game time as an AB.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Sept 2014, 09:59
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16 Sept 2014, 09:59#3
 I rate Fekitoa highly and think he is a much better proposition than Ryan Crotty.    
I would have hoped Carter is back - do not really rate Cruden since he is good with ball in hand - but tends to go to pieces under pressure.  Slade is to my mind the best AB flyhalf after Carter - under pressure situations.  
Whitelock at lock would be a welcome return - I stillr rate him as a lock - even though Retallick has shownsome improvement - Whitelock is still the key lock for the AB's.
Looking forward to the AB-Springbok test - provided Meyr does not bugger up the team selection - as a regularly does - by including Hougaard and Alberts in the Springbok team - and thinking carefully about the center combination.         
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
16 Sept 2014, 13:39
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16 Sept 2014, 13:39#4
 Feikitoa is a much better linebreaker (and that's the easiest to notice) but he's not a better proposition than Crotty and even less at 12 where Crotty has experience and knows his job.
Didn't you watch the second game against the aussies? this has been the best game of the AB and obviously all the merit cannot go to Crotty but he contributed a lot. His decision making was outstanding, always choosing the best option, and the way he created gaps and space for his teammates is something Feikitoa is not yet able to do.
For playing atm at 12 I would choose Crotty over feikitoa every day of the week. Luckily he'll be back for the match against boks.

I would probably play against the argies with:

9. A. Smith  10. Cruden

12. B. Smith   13. C, Smith

11. Savea   14. Piutau   15. Dagg

last sat B. Smith did a good job at 12, better than his last year's appearances at 13.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Sept 2014, 13:53
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16 Sept 2014, 13:53#5
ABasque, you make some valid points and the one thing no-one can argue is that Ben Smith is an incredibly versatile utility player who can play in just about any position in the backline.

Hard to say what Ben Smith's best position might be but he's one slippery customer who will break the line consistently. Wish we had one like him.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
16 Sept 2014, 14:21
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16 Sept 2014, 14:21#6
 yeah, rooinek, there's no oher player IMO in the world with such versatility and who has such an impact in every position.
He's probably the best FB, one of the best wings and sure that if he had some continuity at 12 or 13 he would be one of the bests.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Sept 2014, 15:50
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16 Sept 2014, 15:50#7

Crotty is a much more well rounded rugby player - Fekitoa is more one dimensional and has to grow. At this stage I would want Crotty to start & if there is room have Fekitoa on the bench but he is not versatile enough so he may not make the bench.

 

In short I agree with ABasquefan.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Sept 2014, 16:02
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16 Sept 2014, 16:02#8
Now if only the Boks could select along those lines instead of the crap Meyer dishes out  
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WardadPro6,663 posts
17 Sept 2014, 06:38
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17 Sept 2014, 06:38#9
 I see that redneks BFF big boy crush Wee Wully Skelton has been axed ......and I thought he was going to be bigger than sliced bread ? Early days I suppose but not an auspicious start ,maybe he beat Fatty Mackenzie to all the pies eh ?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
17 Sept 2014, 06:48
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17 Sept 2014, 06:48#10
I heard that Rian Snotty is not going to be available in Argentina. If so, perhaps not in SA. This would be a unique situation for the ABS to have change within the inside backs. 
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