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All Blacks team for Eden Park game against Ozzies

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
22 Aug 2018, 21:31
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22 Aug 2018, 21:31#1

ALL BLACKS: Jordie Barrett, Ben Smith, Jack Goodhue,  Ngani Laumape, Waisake Naholo,, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Liam Squire, Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody. Reserves: Nathan Harris, Karl Tu'inukuake, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Damian McKenzie, Anton Lienert-Brown


Jordie Barrett has be selected for Full back with B. Smith moving to the wing. ALB has been moved to the bench and Laumape starts ahead of him


Hansen is giving these two players more game time as he grows the team. Ozzies will put out a major effort but I pick the ABs to win by 13 plus.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
22 Aug 2018, 23:50
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22 Aug 2018, 23:50#2

I thought maybe Nehe MS might have got a run .Maybe against the Argies ?I dont know of any other team that would keep the likes of him out ,I see they have Laumape starting,must be going to hammer up the middle then inject ALB when the game opens up.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Aug 2018, 00:03
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23 Aug 2018, 00:03#3

Hi Wardad, I think Hansen is giving different blokes a go to keep the motivated and to build depth. I hope we haven't see the last of Crotty but concussions have now become an issue for him. 

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Aug 2018, 12:35
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23 Aug 2018, 12:35#4

hey people, long time,.... cannot see too many kiwi posters or AB news over here,... hope everybody is fine and enjoying life


this could be a very tricky game for the AB,... aussies use to improve in the second game,... if they can keep their defensive effort more than the 40 min. it last the first game, they can put the AB in serious problems

including Jordie and Laumape is not going to help,... Jordie Barrett has done nothing to deserve starting,... nothing at all,... he's a very promising young but he has still to develop,... it should have been:

10. Richie Mo'unga

15. Beauden Barrett

it's gonna cost dearly not to give gametime to the only real nº10,... the only flyhalf who, till the moment, has proved can handle the presssure of a rushing defense,... BB and DMac are FB who need space and time,... against a disastrous aussie team missing 41 tackles and losing 8 lineouts anyone can excel (remember the Rolls-Royce? everybody, AB coaching staff included, disregarding Mo'unga's masterclasses against the best teams of the comp, Canes and Lions ),... last sat second half was tantamount to playing the Sunwolves (or the Blues) at SR level,....

but against real teams with real defenses (till the moment only Ireland can be included, let see what Erasmus can do) BB and DMac are going to struggle,... and then not having a real nº10 with experience is going to cost dearly,... same goes for the WC where teams are going to increase the defensive pressure


having Laumape at second five instead of Crotty is not going to help BB,... Laumape is very unidimensional,... ALB is far more complete and rounded player
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Aug 2018, 13:32
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23 Aug 2018, 13:32#5
dup
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Aug 2018, 13:33
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23 Aug 2018, 13:33#6
Welcome back ABF.
Hansen is rolling the dice a bit here with these selections. I still think the ABs will win it by more than 10 points but the selections make it interesting.
I agree Richie is a talent but still needs more game time as we get closer to the RWC and he will get it. Barrett is immensely talented but he has his weaknesses, e.g. goal kicking not always as good as it could be. In really tough games I always have the feeling the wheels could fall off. For sure we need Richie as the backup 10 as I'm still not convinced McK is a good enough 10 at test level (in the really tight defensive games). Richie seems more stable but IMO he's not ready yet.
We will see, at least Hansen keeps it interesting and by developing McK and Richie he's strengthening the team.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Aug 2018, 13:55
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23 Aug 2018, 13:55#7

PS it will be interesting to see who get s game time at 10 as the backup.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Aug 2018, 13:55
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23 Aug 2018, 13:55#8

PS it will be interesting to see who get s game time at 10 as the backup.

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Aug 2018, 14:04
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23 Aug 2018, 14:04#9

I'm still busy reviewing the last game, so my comments are preliminary. Cane and Read were awesome on defence and at the breakdown. The Aussie lineout was shocking. They were rushing it, so I suppose they feel they are too transparent. Early on, Aussies cutting into 10 and 12. I know the All Blacks got better around the 40th minute mark, so I can't wait to see it.

So far, I saw nothing to convince me that Australia can beat New Zealand. This was supposed to be their moment of dominance in that game. I wasn't convinced. More a period where New Zealand were warming the engine. 

In the last 6 seasons, if New Zealand didn't put up 40+ points in the first game, they did it in the second. They have a good opportunity to extend that streak. 

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
24 Aug 2018, 11:46
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24 Aug 2018, 11:46#10

hi JW and cloudy,

sure Mo'unga needs gametime,... but I think he's ready for the big stage,... he has already played 4 finals (2 SR and 2 NPC) and been the best player and MoM in the 4,... his performances these last 2018 SR finals have been outstanding,.... and he was pressured by the opposite teams,... in the final against the Lions (the Bridesmaids, next year), saders had to play 2 thirds of the game in own territory with few possesion,... that's some kind of pressure and despite of it he controlled the game, gave a materclass and was the best man on the field


and this week everyone who was disregarding Mo'unga's performance with the Rolls-Royce nonsense (AB coaching staff included), is singing BB's praises who just took advantage in the second half of the countless mistakes the aussies made (41 tackles missed and 22 turnovers, schoolboy level),... amazing


and even the AB were dominant in the second half, BB never controlled the game,... 5 from the 6 AB tries came from aussies turnovers and the other one, the first one, was preceded by an easy tackle missed,... he struggles controlling games coz he's not a 10,... he's been excellent (2 Player of the year awards, though the last one quite debatable, IMO Reiko Ioane deserved more) but he needs a dominant AB (or very feeble opposition like last sat),.. each time he faced tight opposition or defense at test and SR level he struggled


still it's understandable the coaching staff want to keep him at the helm,... he's been managing the team this 4 years btwin WCs period since the last WC and has its logic they wanted him to finish this phase,... but it's a huge mistake IMO not to have Mo'unga on the bench and give him gametime to be the backup,... if a team can put a tight defense nulifying BB like the aussies did during the first half (they did it even without a rushing defense), then DMac is not the answer,... coz he's exactly the same kind of player (a FB playing 10 who needs space and time) but even more error-prone when pressured as we could see in the QFs,... and the very important games from now on are going to be tight,... the Irish game on november, the WC finals,.... these are the games that matters


and here's where mo'unga comes,... or should come IMO,... he could be the one who can solve this problem,... he's been the only one able to handle the defensive pressure, specially from a rushing defense,... but he needs gametime to, firstly, show that he really can do the job at test level and afterwards to acquire the experience needed,.... but from what the coaching staff is doing, seems they are going to stick with DMac as the nº10 backup keeping Mo'unga as the third option and not giving him too much gametime,.... 10 min against the argies,... another 10 min in the last bledisloe if it's alreday decided,...

and I'm writting too much,... enough




JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Aug 2018, 13:41
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24 Aug 2018, 13:41#11

Ha ha ABF, you should write more often and then you wouldn't need to write so much, lol

I can't disagree with anything you've said. I hope they do give Mo'unga more time, injuries are always a danger and this may give him more chances. For sure the ABs need all three 10s and Hansen is loyal to his players so even when they go through a bad patch he gives them time to get right but he also is smart and if Mo'unga can demonstrate he deserves more game time he'll get it. Another interesting subplot to the AB games

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