Pumas leading 25-18, 10 minutes to go.
Pumas outstanding in Christchurch.
Best defence...Boffelli never misses his kicks.
That is the score unchanged.
Well done Argentina...we all know how difficult it is to win in NZ, especially in Crusaders home.
ha ha .... CleanCut will enjoy this as well. lol
What a fucking awful display of shit rugby by us, Argentina were bloody good.
Sam Cane is fuckin useless and needs to go now (along with Fozzie) but that ship has sailed.
Cant wait to see Moolaas response to his favorite coach's latest fuck up.
Good thing we aren't playing any tier 2 nations as we would probably lose to them as well.
Pumas are top of the table with 9 points with +23 difference, Australia also has 9 points but with -8 deficit, NZ is 5 points and we are stone last with 4.
Times are certainly a-changing...Love it.
Argentina have a watertight defence...our old friend Ole Cruz had a blinder Hahahaha.
Expect the panic button's to be pushed left, right and centre...selectors to look like jibbering apes and wheels going in to flat spin...that augurs for more disasters and applecarts upset....Too funny.Hahahahaha.
This forum will tearing each other to threads for the next few weeks...that's for sure. Perhaps it's wiser to let them blow off steam and not be so cruel hey CC otherwise they might run out of HBP pills.
Congrats to the Pumas, they played well and are looking good.
All Blacks look pretty average right now and we aren't used to that! Some good signs as the set piece has really improved as has the maul (defense and attack). Also we held onto possession thru more phases (Schmidt's influence) but we need to combine this with the NZ flare in the backs. This is in the NZ genes now and not seeing it makes us look like any other team. This loss may force more selection changes. We are certainly at a low point so the only way is up!
Looking forward to Hamilton!
An All Black team that panics is so unbecoming.
They lose their composure so easily these days.
Can't get used to it.
Your captain isn't strong enough to lead them into battle when times get tough.
He's no Kieran Read ... no Richie McCaw..
He needs. to go.
Kierang Read was lucky to lead a bunch of great players at the peak of their game, but he was no Mcaw...never liked his style...poor sport IMO....took gamesmanship beyond the spirit of the game...him and Nick White could have been roomies.
It's not leadership... it's attack structure. They've sorted some shit out up front but their attacking game is so shit in some ways against good teams (not the Blocks who are a tier 3 defensive team)... they have a really lateral attack just passing the same way in the same shape all the time. This was the case against Ireland... too lateral and no variation. Shallow attack shape with short runs. Where;'s the wing off the shoulder of 12? Ioane is good but not great defence reads and not much punch at 10 so I guess they are stuck with Havili at 12. Maybe Goodhue can solve some shit at 13?? The rest is coaching.
CC, that last sustained drive didn't look like panic to me but I agree that the All Blacks are not looking like the team we are used to seeing. I'm looking forward to seeing how these problems get fixed.
I'm watching the Boks game now, must be tough to see them loose to Oz after OZ was thrashed by Pumas. Can the ABs and Boks get their games straightened out in time for the RWC? An interesting sub plot.
McCaw is so fucking overrated. The douche was simply exempt from the laws of the game. Was a fucking carthorse with bad technique, good linking play but that's about it. Would never make a true top 100 of test players.
Disagree
McCaw could easily be one of the greatest openside flankers ... and captains of all time.
Yes ... it is leadership.
His team has no faith in him.
ha ha, no good looking back to past All Black victories and great players, the refs rulings still stand as does the incredible record.
I agree MS, there was too much lateral movement in the backs, the All Blacks were not able to make the Pumas defense hesitate so they were on us in a flash. We need to be able implement strategies to stop this, kicks behind the line, etc.
Still better than Read...atleast he was a good sportsman...
McCaw a better sportsman? Like boasting about how the French would have been beaten worse in a fairly reffed game in wc '11?? How can a Block fan forget his little tantrums when he lost to the Blocks??? Do I have to teach you fucks everything? What next? Wipe your assholes??
Rosie ... you are sounding more and more like Augie everyday.
CC has old age taken away your perception....Organhuffer might have touched a raw nerve here,including mine but I always found him decent, far more manners than most here...he just was contentious, I rather liked him, he was not stupid but as they say in Afrikaans: hy was "anderste!
Rooi Rose is course, rough with little refinement...Organ Huffer was just an irritating gentleman but he had intelligent perception but deliberately chose to be controversial for attention
Just keep the faith in Fozzie Sadersfan. He’ll bring us through next Saturday in Hamilton!
I’m looking forward to going to the game where I’m predicting an ABs backlash.
Pumas defence was spot on but their kicker kept them in it all game. They never looked like scoring a structured try after all and with a few tweaks in our backline tactics we should have their measure.
We are definitely missing the calming influence of ALB in the midfield.
I'm with you in that Moolaa, this team is still finding itself and I've never seen an AB team have to do that. Hopefully it will all fit together once they have strategies they can execute well. This team sort of reminds me of the Boks before the last RWC, they were lost & finally got themselves sorted.
The All Blacks looked like the Boks in those last few possessions.. one off running with lots of crash ball and few/no effective offloads. To me it looked like all the ABs were lining flat….there was not enough depth to generate pace. No players coming from deeper cutting into the line at pace.
It was all shockingly one dimensional with Havili playing the role of Dud Allende
