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All Blacks will be out to bury Australia in Brisbane; by HAMISH BIDWELL

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Oct 2017, 02:44
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19 Oct 2017, 02:44#1

OPINION: If only moral victories were worth something.

 

The All Blacks have obviously gone to Brisbane expecting a contest. Just take a look at their 23; it's the best they have available and a show of great respect for the Wallabies.

 

But with the Bledisloe Cup and Rugby Championship trophy in the cabinet for another year, New Zealand needn't accord this clash great status. Particularly when you read stuff like this, from Wallabies midfield back Kurtley Beale.

Flanker Matt Todd must've thought playing for Canterbury would be his lot this winter.

 

"Even though it did hurt in the end, I think individually in my own game it felt good to be part of a huge game like that," Beale said this week.

 

"Looking how far we came from the week before gave me a lot of confidence in guys around me. It allowed me to look forward with excitement and enthusiasm to keep building and learning off each other to try to reach that No.1 spot that we want."

 

Let's unpack that a bit. For starters, Beale is talking about Australia's last-gasp 35-29 loss to New Zealand in Dunedin, which followed a 54-34 defeat in Sydney the week before.

 

Good luck finding an All Black who'll pat themselves on the back for playing well in a losing performance. But never mind, Beale was obviously happy to.

 

It would be nice to see Damian McKenzie get some time at first five-eighth in Brisbane.

 

That's clearly where the Wallabies are at right now; celebrating near misses and competitive efforts. If that's the mentality, then All Blacks coach Steve Hansen needn't have taken such a strong squad to Brisbane, because the the opposition are still dining out on a last-minute loss.

 

As for Australia building towards becoming world rugby's pre-eminent team? Don't hold your breath.

 

Clearly Hansen isn't desperate to provide them with a leg up.

 

This is an All Blacks team picked to keep Australia on the canvas. And if they can start they way they did in Sydney, or did against South Africa at Albany and against Argentina in Buenos Aires, then you imagine the resistance will be minimal.

 

A useful buffer would allow Hansen to give fullback Damian McKenzie a run at first five-eighth and continue David Havili's gradual introduction to this level. Reserve tighthead prop Ofa Tu'ungafasi is another whose development would be aided by meaningful minutes off the bench.

 

Perhaps the best sign of how seriously Hansen is taking this match is Matt Todd's selection on the bench.

 

A few weeks back, another provincial title with Canterbury and then a final run around with the Crusaders looked like it would be his lot. Off-contract next year, Todd appeared destined an overseas club.

 

But with ascendancy at the breakdown such a factor in test match outcomes, Todd's longer term All Blacks prospects have suddenly brightened.

 

Ardie Savea in full cry remains one of rugby's more thrilling sights, but Hansen obviously rates prowess at ruck time over ball-running ability. Otherwise Vaea Fifita might have edged Liam Squire out of blindside flanker as well.

 

No, there's a clear method at play here.

 

A buoyant Wallabies squad - as this lot appear to be after nearly winning in Dunedin - is a potential problem for New Zealand. But keep them down and continue the scrutiny on coach Michael Cheika - and Australian rugby in general - and you go a long way to eliminating a 2019 World Cup contender.

 

 - Stuff

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Oct 2017, 02:55
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19 Oct 2017, 02:55#2
 I wouldn't underestimate the Wobblies. ABs will miss Retallick for sure as well as Barrett but it's time to give Sopoaga a start anyway. I'm happy for Todd to be on the bench and hope this keeps him in NZ. My other thoughts on this game are on another thread so I won't repeat them here.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2017, 06:44
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19 Oct 2017, 06:44#3
 JWHave you had a look to the RHS of this screen to see the evolution of the Haka?
Doesn't look like they knew much about what they were doing in the early years.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Oct 2017, 07:37
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19 Oct 2017, 07:37#4
JW after being out played by Oz in the second half of the first test and being lucky to win the second test against Oz and after being outplayed by the backs recently I would agree the wee abs will want try try and regain some lost prestige!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
19 Oct 2017, 12:01
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19 Oct 2017, 12:01#5
 Beeno, Scoreboard
In addition the ABs have set the standard in other areas of the game, i.e. skill set, forward domination, sportsmanship, etc. Our locks are the best in the world, even the most feeble minded grasp this fact

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Oct 2017, 13:51
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19 Oct 2017, 13:51#6
 Jay-Dub most feebs get this ,most of them .Off to Suncorp on Saturday  with one of my boys .If you have a test match near you and you dont go then you arent that big a fan ,or your just really ,really ,really broke .Or not that big a fan .Bro the ads for the 3rd Bled make a big deal of the wallabillies coming close ,something any AB would be ashamed of.Sad .As some wee mental midgets are wont to say .
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Oct 2017, 13:57
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19 Oct 2017, 13:57#7
 Denny ,Bro the early versions of the haka by the ABs were just shyte till Buck Shelford told them to either go hard and do it right or forget about it .Wasnt performed in NZ till the early 80s I think ?Pre Shelford ? Prolly to avoid derision by the locals who knew what they were looking at.Beeanfark still talking sh!t , maybe he should stick to emulating his Muslim Brothers.
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
23 Oct 2017, 01:36
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23 Oct 2017, 01:36#8
 Arrogant ABs put to the sword -
Foley did his retarded best to give you the game again and still... the up and coming Wallabies took the prideful kiwis down.
As much as Richie was a cheat I dont think he faked humility... REad is a shocker / Cole needed to kneed in the head... and SBW... well if hes your team's leader this is only going to get better...
Dominated massively - all about that DEFENCE... not to mention Barnes trying to gift the game to ABs too...
GO YOU AUSSIES!!!
BTW s15 (or whatever the hell its called now will only be better now we've downsized)
Lot of pain coming kiwis way I predict - 
BTW x2 - hows the dickhead who wrote this article XD
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Oct 2017, 02:48
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23 Oct 2017, 02:48#9
 Ha ha, well it took a win by the Wobblies to bring Redsman out from hiding (no doubt some very unseemly place)

So now we have the fans of the Boks & the Wobblies full of optimism... whatever it takes I guess
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