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An adult view of why Mostert was chosen

Started by Mozart11 REPLIES2,468 VIEWS· 23 Aug 2018, 16:13
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Aug 2018, 16:13
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23 Aug 2018, 16:13#1
Sport24 chief writer Cape Town – Don’t they say wildfires are a good thing for the landscape in many ways? If so, then you might say a blaze has officially been lit by head coach Rassie Erasmus beneath Franco Mostert and Pieter-Steph du Toit in a captivating duel – possibly right up to and into RWC 2019 – for the Springbok No 5 jersey. Versatile, proven Lood de Jager, currently injured, cannot be ruled out of that particular positional battle further up the line, but for the moment just the two fit specimens are engaged in a fierce tussle for the berth. In the very debatable, lone change to the Bok starting XV for Saturday’s Rugby Championship Test against Argentina in Mendoza (21:10 start), Du Toit drops down to the bench – where it looks far more likely that he covers loose forward, into the bargain – to make room for Mostert in the second row. That is despite Du Toit, in general play, having had a more than decent Test match (at least by this writer’s estimation) in last weekend’s 34-21 triumph over the same foes in Durban. But in Thursday’s official team-announcement release from the Bok camp, Erasmus was significantly quoted as saying: “He’s (Mostert) been our first-choice No 5 lock and that’s why he is starting on Saturday.” Whatever your own thoughts on the matter, hand it to Erasmus … that’s about as direct as you can get with the media. No bull-dust. He reminded simultaneously that Mostert had been purposely rested for the Kings Park Test considering his more extended workload in Super Rugby this year; the Lions reached the final again. The pro-Du Toit club might be inclined to argue that their man did enough – and then some? -- in Durban to warrant retaining his berth, and that Erasmus might have adhered more closely to the principle of individuals “playing themselves out” of a particular sports team. In broadest sense, the Stormers player didn’t seem to do that last Saturday, his grunt-laden alliance with the amazingly, rapidly resurgent Eben Etzebeth, an old ally in Cape Town, being a hallmark of a dominant Bok pack showing as a whole. It is also worth bringing to light that Du Toit had – admittedly a slightly subjective statement again – seemingly been one of the shinier lights at blindside flank in each of the last two Tests of the June series against England. So whether he deserves slipping down to the substitutes this Saturday, against such a backdrop, is a healthy topic for discussion. Then again, Erasmus has been fairly clear-cut, logical -- and successful -- in much of what he has done selection-wise since taking the demanding Bok reins, and has come across as a sound man-manager, into the bargain. And if you removed completely from your mind last weekend’s Championship opener, when Mostert was purposely idle, you could quibble even less with the now former Lions workhorse’s inclusion here: he had formed a compelling lock combination with RG Snyman (back on the bench himself this Saturday) in the victorious England series. The recent Gloucester acquisition is undoubtedly one of those “100 percent effort” type of tight forwards -- on a consistent basis, whether for club or country -- and Erasmus may also feel that he is superior at this stage to Du Toit for lineout calling and reading. The department was one of the relatively few to go notably awry in Durban, and the coach was entitled to feel that some sort of freshening or jacking-up of standards was required there for what might be an altogether stiffer Mendoza tussle. South Africa will sacrifice a bit in pure beef terms – this in the land that prides itself on its red meat, remember – this weekend, as Mostert tips the scales a few kilograms short of Du Toit, but his synergy at throw-in time with old Lions team-mate and hooker Malcolm Marx will have helped, no doubt, tilt his selection. Expect this much on Saturday, now that Erasmus has laid his cards, perhaps shrewdly, so firmly on the table when it comes to No 5 in the Bok line-up: Mostert will want to provide nothing less than another frenzied, full-blooded shift, knowing that he has a quality rival still breathing down his neck. As for Du Toit, when unleashed off the splinters – as he surely will be, regardless of in what capacity – the blond competitor should be snorting with constructive rage, too. If so it would be a carbon copy of last year, in the equivalent fixture in Salta, when he also appeared as a sub and was an urgent, aggressive contributor to the 41-23 victory (one of the better ones, really, in the Allister Coetzee tenure as coach). The starting locks that occasionally ill-tempered day? You guessed it … Messrs Etzebeth and Mostert.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2018, 16:31
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23 Aug 2018, 16:31#2

The adult BS prevails.  You are too stupid that the issue si the lackof a third line-out option - not the BS spouted above. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Aug 2018, 16:56
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23 Aug 2018, 16:56#3
Are you talking to me or Houwig?
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XaviPro1,924 posts
23 Aug 2018, 17:09
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23 Aug 2018, 17:09#4

Foot, meet mouth.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Aug 2018, 17:46
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23 Aug 2018, 17:46#5

Most slaying thread title in ages.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2018, 17:51
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23 Aug 2018, 17:51#6

Mozart

Listen dim ex-fucker - the debate is not about Mostert vs Du Toit - it is about third  options in line-outs.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 Aug 2018, 17:53
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23 Aug 2018, 17:53#7

Mike, you have to give props to the title though. Pretty funny man. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2018, 17:58
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23 Aug 2018, 17:58#8

Plum

Let me state again I have no problem with the selection of Mostert - my problem goes much wider. Houwig is most of the time an idiot - so like Mozart he does not cover the wider aspect as well.    I really do not care what the demented and  clueless BSter used as a heading  he is the only really childish low life on site,    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Aug 2018, 22:54
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23 Aug 2018, 22:54#9
The wider view is Mostert was chosen to improve the connection with Marx to solidify the lineout. Stephanie had a good game and was rewarded with a bench spot. One of his attributes as a flank is lineout play, but clearly not a high enough priority to start him. Did I miss anything.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Aug 2018, 23:18
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23 Aug 2018, 23:18#10
Mostert is not test standard for the simple reason he lacks physicality as a lock evidenced in all his energy and little reward. Never dominates a collision be it with ball in hand or in the tackle. Poor excuse for a test lock should only be considered at 7. Lood, PSDT, Snyman, Willemse and Jenkins are all far better options to partner Eben. I’d say Ruan Botha, JD and Erasmus are better as well
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
24 Aug 2018, 00:21
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24 Aug 2018, 00:21#11

Saffex, good to have ol' Snapster back...much ado about our locks especially Mostert...who is not bad but PSDT and EE are the best any country could have from lock-forwards....but Pumas have got Ole Cruz aka Tomas Lavanini one of our ex posters...he out-jumped most of us here

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2018, 01:42
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24 Aug 2018, 01:42#12
What about Quince......I want to hear more about Quince.
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