SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:30#2
Not to mention Serfontein being unworthy. The old man is a laugh a minute.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:34#3
Well imagine being the fool who said 10 years ago Schalk didnt deserve to be a Sprongbok and that Watson was the future.....haha. Care to comment on "Skulk" now you old fool Rooinek?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:37#4
What exactly did schalk do except crash into contact
28 Sept 2014, 20:39#5
Moz, Hougard was man of the match! Granted, he made some mistakes, but his overall impact was obvious enough for the accolade. Personally I would have given it to Vermeulen, or arguably one or two others, but seriously, if Hougard was as bad as you make out, surely he could not have been considered for the MOM? Credit where due man.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:45#6
Moffie knows stuff all about rugby......He loves to quote stats he only needs to look at the latest to see how little Matfield and Jean did and how Schalk made 3 tackles but missed one and that the true star was Serfontein.
More of these youngsters and less of the geriatrics and we might have a chance against NZ. Geez how average was Bakkies when he cam e on
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:47#7
Excuse me Bloo but where did I say he was bad? He played a more physical game which suited him, even though he is still pretty robotic. He looked more like he does on the wing, which is good. Schalk, Vermeulen and Matfield were our best. jannie actually made some monster tackles.
Among the backs Lambie left 7 points out there, but scored a good try. Reinach was fast. Steppie did a nice job making his first break of the RC, even if he was marked by a lock....and overmatched against Kuridrani.
Marcel was a massive trier,but handily outplayed on the deck by Hooper et al. Beast was quiet. Etzebeth is still below his best...Mohoje did a few good things, but in truth it was a bit like playing with 14.5 players.
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:50#9
How did I miss Jan Serfontein? Thanks Saffex. I've edited the original post to include yet another star whose obvious talent was missed by the resident fork-tongued blowhard.
Love the fact that old egg-face has to go back to Luke Watson to find a poor call of mine. The last time I rated Luke Watson was when he was still a Sharks player. That's 10 years ago! 10 years! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 20:58#10
Yeah this stupid prick is so anti any youthful player it's scary.....must be a threat on his old age or something
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
28 Sept 2014, 21:00#11
Will someone ask the tedious and incompetent old fop not to post his vapid and tearful little squeals on my threads in future? The dithering old fossil can't even post something basic without screwing up the margins.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 21:01#12
Well Moffie the youngsters pulled us through and Matfield, Jean and Jannie were clearly the passengers. Did Matfield play as a forward?
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2014, 21:03#13
Well careful now Rooinek is pushing sixty....you don't want to insult the only Bloke supporting you on this site Dave. Still I thought you might like to see this
CSerfontein0/000/6/1135151110/30/000/0
CKuridrani0/101/5/1787282317/30/000/0
Total domination I would say....fortunately Steppie finally found himself up against Horwell and managed a break.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 21:06#14
Yep now compare Serfontein s stats to your hero Jean who.....therein lies the crux. Both 13s had great gam es
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2014, 21:19#15
Sure
Cde Villiers2/0101/6/1258000510/10/000/0
Jean more metres made, a much higher tackle percentage and two tries. Trumps beating a lock methinks.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 21:40#16
Ah yeah not a single clean break or defender beaten - the measure of a centre.
My grandmother could have scored those tries
Try again old man. Serfontein was far superior to Jean - FACT
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Sept 2014, 22:12#17
Well if that's the measure of centre
CSerfontein0/000/1/45000119/20/010/0
CSerfontein0/101/1/43000218/00/000/0
I guess based on his two previous tests, Steppie doesn't measure very high. Be realistic, he beat a lock through the gap....Kuridrani's running was way more effective.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 22:17#18
Bullshit Jan beat a defender through skill, Kuridrani ran through defenders.
This is about Jean vs Jan on the day, Jan was far superior
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Sept 2014, 22:35#19
Bullshit Jan beat a defender through skill, Kuridrani ran through defenders.
This is about Jean vs Jan on the day, Jan was far superior
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Sept 2014, 01:15#20
Jean was the better player on the day but Jan is growing as a player which is encouraging.
The big worry now is the tight 4 problem and how to construct the loose trio.Has Meyer the nous to undertand the issues.
Certainly ou rooitwit - who disappeared under a mountain of egg re the Universe out of nothng debate - has once again no clue!! Bwahahahahha.Snapster and Mike shoud realise even under strength we should beat Oz but there were some worries to be fair. here is a tip. Just because you dont agree with Meyer's selections, and even if you are right, it doesnt follow we will lose. How many defeats have you two predicted for the Boks to date?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2014, 01:32#21
Beenkop let me guess you are stupid enough to conclude Jean was better because he scored 2 simple tries no doubt?
29 Sept 2014, 03:33#22
Mozart you fail to comprehend that Serfontein defends in the 12 channel and attacks in the 13 one as mentioned before.
29 Sept 2014, 03:34#23
I'll say it again just so you get it into your thick skull.
Serfontein defends at 12 and attacks at 13.
29 Sept 2014, 03:34#24
Third time lucky.
Serfontein defends at 12 and attacks at 13.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 04:09#25
What's your point Cheezer. Because he is in 13 channel Steppie can't beat tackles? The lad looked slow once he beat Horwell, and he looked slow chasing Kuridrani on his break.
He is industrious, but he will never be a great test centre....more of a placeholder.
MDMonkey D Luffy
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MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
29 Sept 2014, 20:36#26
the only thing more foolish then those saying serfontein didnt have the goods, was meyers ridiculous player management of not just serfontein, but a lot of other younger and more in form players.
meyers decisions have ensured that Boks are stuck in 2nd gear for his entire tenure.
to play pienaar with hougaard and reinach fighting for bench spots, or morne over anyone or any inanimate object just reeks of incompetence.
serfontein should have been given a lot more game time at 12, but JDVs service which has steadily declined since 09 has shown that meyer dosnet have what it takes to make the hard choices.
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
29 Sept 2014, 21:15#27
". . . meyer dosnet have what it takes to make the hard choices."
Sad but true, Sasuke. It's one conservative cop-out after the other lately.
Having said that, I can't wait for Saturday. I think Meyer's old crocks are going to stick it to the All Blacks.
Go Bokke!