An inconvenient truth....the team that lost to Argentina isnt the way to go.

Here we find Allende is at 12, Kriel at 14....Brussouw is playing not Louw. There is no Matfield, no Jannie and the dream pairing of Etzebeth and Lomp are locking the scrum. Brussouw and Coetzee, much favoured by the Barking Dogs flanked the scrum.

The only maligned old guard players are Pienaar and Jean. But they lost at home.....by 12 points. The Bargies put 37 points on us. And the prescription is to trend back towards this team.

How incredibly knee jerk. I hope HM can stand up and not play the popular piper. We lost because we had no intensity, because we weren't playing the part of Springboks. We lost because we rationalized poor performance....didnt demand better instantly. Jean and Matfield were bemused leaders when we needed angry passionate ones.

We have gone back and forth among so many players, less change is better than more change now. Leave the pack as it is, but bring back Etzebeth and Vermeulen. Bring back Pollard, Willie  and JP. Five solid changes....already too much but these are some of our best performers. And demand performance....no  feeble kickoff chases, softly contested mauls, white glove tackles and uncontested lineouts. Hell it was a shocker to see the Japs whose tallest man was at average Bok forward height winning uncontested lineouts.

And how about a few tackles that look like they are meant. The way the Bargies scythed down the AB backs put our feeble tackling in even worse light....no high pawing like Kriel at the death, decisive low tackles that stopped progress.

It's time for some theory X management...theory Y is not working.

Bok team vs Bargies in Durban 

Look let me make it simple for you.....the guys never fronted. They werent there to play a rugby match. You can take any combination of the players we have over there and they should thrash Japan every time. I didn't like some of the selections, you didn't like some of the selections....that wasn't the problem. The problem was between the players' ears and for that HM, his coaching staff and our two captains have to take the blame.

Wrong Moz......Eddie exposed the Bok side for what it is.....a bunch of geriatrics who are past their sell by date. Something I have been pointing out for months.

The current record of 5 wins in 13, the slip in rankings and now this disgraceful result confirms what everyone bar an ignorant few have been saying all along.

Selecting a starting 15 with 11 thirty pluses in it, add Mvovo at 29 is an insult.....much like the loss to Japan was - worst day in Bok history thanks to clueless Meyer.

But sadly you will continue to support this clown along with pathetic selections like Kirchner, Mvovo, Jean, Morne, du Preez, Pienaar, Jannie, Brits, Matfield, Louw and Alberts and you will have to continue apologising for your blind faith in a bunch of losers.

The only 30 plus who merited a positive word was Schalk

Habana, Beast and Bismark still have a role to play.....the rest should be nowhere near the squad.

Eddie made clueless Meyer look the fool he really is.....the writing has been on the wall for the past 18 months

Wake up man

No Pervert....I queried Kirchner, Lambie, Stephanie, Kolisi and Coenie. I would have played none of them.

Matfield, Schalk, Jannie and Louw.... vs...Lambie, Kriel, Coenie, Kolisi and Stephanie.

Old vs New. The Boks were down in their 22 because of a stupid Coenie penalty. They had no direction until Pollard replaced the pathetically passive Lambie. The final try was scored because of a Kriel error. We could have had a push over try against us if Jannie hadn't twice drilled his opponent after coming on to replace pathetic Coenie.

And you have the gall to tell me the old guys lost it....get real.