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Anyone heard from Frans Steyn?

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
11 Sept 2013, 03:38
#1
11 Sept 2013, 03:38#1

 With Goosen on the mend our backline could improve. 

Some conflicting reports about Frans Steyn's recovery. No mention of him lately.

 

How about this backline to implement Meyer's game plan

 

9. Fourie Dupreez (when available) /Pienaar

11. Habana

10. Goosen  (Morne Steyn reserve)

12. Jean Devilliers/ (Jan Serfontein reserve)

13. JJ  (Jean moves to outside center in some games to let Serfontein start, and also come off the bench)

14. Willie LeRoux

15. a fit Frans Steyn/ (Lambie reserve). 

 

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
11 Sept 2013, 03:48
#2
11 Sept 2013, 03:48#2

Rumour from guppyville has it that two contract prospects await him in Japan & he's debating whether to switch to prop or go with the more lucrative sumo wrestling offer  .

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
11 Sept 2013, 04:02
#3
11 Sept 2013, 04:02#3

 mmnnn, wonder what his weight will be this time when he returns from injury.

It was 118kg last time which made him the heaviest backline player since Jona Lomu.

 

If he switches to sumo wrestling he could be make even more of a success of jumping between sporting codes than Sonny Bill Williams. Frans Steyn will at least not have to rig a Sumo fight to win it.

RU
RugganutClub Pro183 posts
11 Sept 2013, 05:28
#4
11 Sept 2013, 05:28#4

Yeh, he won The Eating Championship Contest in Japan last weekend. He ate 2 Sumo wrestlers and still was not full so he started on the crowd before being restrained by the police. It is reported that one policeman lost a hand though. MacDonalds have are preparing a long term contract.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Sept 2013, 08:59
#5
11 Sept 2013, 08:59#5

 Rugganut: good one mate, lol

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Sept 2013, 13:07
#6
11 Sept 2013, 13:07#6
Steyn is not back in any capacity for the Sharks as yet. There are two corrections I want to make about Steyn though. He came back from France - * weighing in at 118 kgs - the same weight he had after the injury; and * in the tests last year he was as slow as a carthorse. I doubt very much whether we can afford a slow crashballer at full back - he would damage the backline attacking potential. Unless he gets his weight down to a reasonable figure and can do a programme to up his speed - I cannot see how he can play a constructive role at full back. I do not think that Steyn is in the plans for the Sharks this year - so we will have to wait to see what happens in Super 15 next year.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
11 Sept 2013, 13:21
#7
11 Sept 2013, 13:21#7

 rugganut classic!

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
11 Sept 2013, 15:31
#8
11 Sept 2013, 15:31#8

 I think he was last spotted hanging out with Keith Murdock having a pie floater from Harrys Cafe De Wheels ! [ actualy some of the best after the pub tucker known to man ! }

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Sept 2013, 19:32
#9
11 Sept 2013, 19:32#9
Wardad How many pie floaters? One would not be enough - how about the total supply of pies available?
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
12 Sept 2013, 01:11
#10
12 Sept 2013, 01:11#10

 I dunno ,probably have and or need enough floaters to run the Americas Cup in !!!!

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Sept 2013, 01:32
#11
12 Sept 2013, 01:32#11

 Best Bok backline if all players were fit and in form would be:

 

15. Taute 14. JP 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Willie 10. Goosen 9. Hougaard with a bench of v/Zyl, Lambie and Frans Steyn

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
12 Sept 2013, 03:33
#12
12 Sept 2013, 03:33#12

My best Bok backline would be, if all players were fit and available:

15. JP Pietersen - Has the size and hallmarks to be a great fullback. We are in a fortunate situation that we no longer need him on the wing. I never wanted to change him from a wing as he was one of the best in the world there but I think he is more than mature enough to become a great fullback entering the line at pace with his size.

 

14. Willie Le Roux - Brings something to the Bok setup that we have lacked for many a year. As long as he keeps going well, leave him at 14.

 

13. Jan Serfontein - He can be a Springbok great and will likely be one of those players that , like De Villiers, will be around for over a decade. Lets hope he stays pretty much injury free. JJ Engelbrecht went missing in Brisbane last week a little. He did nothing wrong but hardly saw him either.

 

12. Jean De Villiers - Who else is better right now? No one. That is a fact. He is still our best option at 12 and playing as well as ever. He is damn important to the Boks right now!

 

11. Bryan Habana - Still has plenty to give and seeing him strip Folau like he was looking for parking down the left touchline was testament to what Bryan can still do. The resulting break leading to a chip kick well fielded by Kruger and a try to JDV that sealed Aussies fate. Lets prep JJ for Habana's departure.

 

10. Morne Steyn - Seems to be gaining confidence again and we can not discount what his boot has done for us. We would not be leading the Rugby Championship table without him as we would have lost to the Argies in Mendoza. He is throwing some nice long passes and freeing up our exciting backs. Good on you Morne'. I have not seen Goosen play in a while but I doubt he can command a game like Morne can right now.

 

9. Charl McCleod - Realistically, we can not have Fourie Du Preez back now but I reckon McCleod is playing some pretty good rugby and has been consistently for the past few years. It was this form that saw him become a Bok but he was disgarded before even given a fair chance really. He has plenty pace, plenty passion, a good boot and good service. He has been a steady performer for the Sharks for a number of years now and the Sharks results will prove this.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2013, 04:01
#13
12 Sept 2013, 04:01#13

Not sure about JP at 15, but I like the rest. I agree McLeod is a fine scrumhalf

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
12 Sept 2013, 04:06
#14
12 Sept 2013, 04:06#14

I think playing JP at fullback would be an excellant idea, especially as Willie and Habana are certainties at wing.

 

JP started his career as a fullback and played for the Sharks for over a year or so. 

Dick Muir I believe moved him to wing because his kicking game at the time was not that strong.

 

However as JP's kicking game has improved over the years I also think he would be a good fullback. He is solid under the high ball.

The prospect of him linking with Habana, or scissor runs with Leroux could be exceptional.

End of the year tour JP will be available again, so this could happen.

 

Bow now Krichner hurry hurry, combined well with LeRoux- so the JP could only be much better. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Sept 2013, 12:32
#15
12 Sept 2013, 12:32#15

 

Who gives a shit!!!!!

 

The man's a lardass ... useless in every way

 

Why would you even start a thread  to discuss this waste of space??

 

.

IH
IhiClub Pro201 posts
12 Sept 2013, 16:58
#16
12 Sept 2013, 16:58#16

i dont get what the hype is about jp pietersen. he looks too lazy and i dont remember him being an attacking threat. im pretty sure his days are numbered now willie is giving the boks so much spark that they havent had. i cant remember the last time cthe boks had two great wingers in one team so this looks really exciting. jp has to fight against the regular 15s and i dont see that happening. kirchner, aplon, pietersen, lambie and a few others are way ahead there. so its bye bye pietersen.

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
12 Sept 2013, 17:55
#17
12 Sept 2013, 17:55#17

 

Why do you bother posting on this MB, Ihi?

 

It’s hard to believe … I know … but your ACTUALLY giving Stupid Dave the Mudblood a good run for the DUMBASS OF THE BOARD award.

 

And what kind of stupid name is “Ihi” ??

 

Why don't you change it to something that has a meaning ... like pipi!!!

 

 

CL
clevermike.Club Pro177 posts
12 Sept 2013, 22:55
#18
12 Sept 2013, 22:55#18

Cleancut

You are such a poes.

Grow up and start making some real contributions instead of tryng to be the sarugby.com "poes of the year".

 

So, back to rugby...

Ja, i wouldnt mind seeing Goosen back in full force.

Though we are winning, I am still not convinved that Morne Steyn should be our go to man in the next RWC.

Yes, i agree, history tells that good defenses win the cup....

But i also think that by playing attractive rugby, scoring tries and punching holes into defences, the teams morale would be boosted, and with a good morale, comes good communication.

And we all know that good communication is a key factor for a good defence.

 

Regarding WIllie.

I think his name should be one of the first to be penned in to the starting XV, however i'm still worried about him at 15. Not the best under the high ball.

Him, Habana and JP would be the wings i would take to the next RWC.

 

 

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2013, 01:16
#19
13 Sept 2013, 01:16#19
I am not at all sure about Francois Steyn. Je started his playing career at full back for the Sharks and was originally selected at full back for the 2007 WC. After De Villiers early injury he was moved to center - where he played subsequently. Francois Steyn was a tall and slim youngster at the time and his speed was impressive. He was a very popular selection at the time. However, he went off the France and then started a period in weight increase and slowing down as a player. By the time Steyn returned from France in May 2012 he was clearly overweight and slow and that condition remained until his injury before the Pretoria test. After that injury he did not play any rugby until January 2013 - when he did look slightly slimmer than he did the previous year - but inside circles claimed he weighed 115 kgs. During the games he played for the Springboks he crashballed regularly and his kicking game was a joke - all signs of fundamental unfitness and slowness. When he came back for the Sharks their was some problems in his game - which showed increasing signs of poor performance and the ultimate problem was in the Brumbies game where his defence collapsed completely. Later in the season he plated a couple of games at full back and one at 13. He showed some signs of improvement - but his speed remains a question mark. He was then injured and has not played a game since the latest injury. The situation is that the Springbok backline showed some spark this year and the question remains - will that level of performance be maintained with Steyn in the mix? Present indications are there is not a sign of such potential during Steyn's performances since his return from France. Question is - can we afford Francois Steyn in the backline? Sure - but there are a number of requirements that would influence the matter. He would have to get his weight to about 105 kgs and his speed will have to increase drastically. No team can afford a slow backline player - neither at center nor at full back. If Steyn can get back to a reasonable weight and speed - he could be considered - but I would think at full back rather than at center. At full back he would have more time to decide on matters - at center he tends to be one-dimensional. He has a long way to go though and we will have to see how matters pan out next year in Super 15.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
13 Sept 2013, 02:04
#20
13 Sept 2013, 02:04#20

dup

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
13 Sept 2013, 02:06
#21
13 Sept 2013, 02:06#21

 @clevermike, 

Steyn was returning to form before his injury.

Outside center seems to suit him more than inside center where he hogs the ball to much.

Not sure what happened to his kicking game. He used to be the best long distance drop kicker and pole kicker in the world. Not sure how his weight could have such a massive impact on his kicking.

 

If he gets his speed back by getting fit, which he should do considering that he is now living in South Africa where it is warmer- then he should be back again.

 

His rock launcher clearance kicks from fullback would help the Bok territory game plan considerably.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Sept 2013, 02:16
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13 Sept 2013, 02:16#22

ClownCunt commenting on rugby again......now its his take on Frans...........stick to buttering bread you ignorants prick.

 

How's Boshoff shaping up as the Bok 10...............bwhaaahaaaaaaaaaa

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Sept 2013, 11:27
#23
13 Sept 2013, 11:27#23

 Boshoff is doing no worse than Jantjies as Bok 10...............bwhaaahaaaaaaaaaa

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
13 Sept 2013, 12:19
#24
13 Sept 2013, 12:19#24

 

Yeah ... agreed, Db ... Boshoff is a far better option than Jittery Jantjies ... 

 

He doesn't need to send up a prayer when taking shots at the posts. He also has a normal hair style that doesn't look like a well used tennis ball.

 

WTF is that?? Careful you don't trip over your penis, Wilma.

 

Damn!!!! Glad I'm not expected to shag that!!

 

 

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