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Appointment of Springbok Head Coach

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 16:18
#1
13 Jan 2020, 16:18#1

When this topic was discussed in November/December last year - one of our members claimed that SARU will select the Head Coach and Erasmus will have no say in it.


That was the starting point of the argument based on newspaper reports that Erasmus would select the coaching staff and SARU will then approve whomsoever he selected,   That was contra to what our all-knowing member alleges.   I then phoned SARU to find out what the position was and they confirmed that the appointments will be finalized by late January   

The next comment was that the SARU President said the coach appointments  should be known before Christmas and that send our respected member into another orbit as to how SARU will select the coaching staff and announce the appointments before Christmas.


The end of January is fast approaching and there is no confirmation of appointments yet and only a lot of media speculation.   So when illth Springbok coaching appointments be announced?   What SARU old me over the phone was obviously correct - so lets wait and see what happens,  


        

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 16:18
#2
13 Jan 2020, 16:18#2

When this topic was discussed in November/December last year - one of our members claimed that SARU will select the Head Coach and Erasmus will have no say in it.


That was the starting point of the argument based on newspaper reports that Erasmus would select the coaching staff and SARU will then approve whomsoever he selected,   That was contra to what our all-knowing member alleges.   I then phoned SARU to find out what the position was and they confirmed that the appointments will be finalized by late January   

The next comment was that the SARU President said the coach appointments  should be known before Christmas and that send our respected member into another orbit as to how SARU will select the coaching staff and announce the appointments before Christmas.


The end of January is fast approaching and there is no confirmation of appointments yet and only a lot of media speculation.   So when illth Springbok coaching appointments be announced?   What SARU old me over the phone was obviously correct - so lets wait and see what happens,  


        

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
13 Jan 2020, 16:21
#3
13 Jan 2020, 16:21#3
It will be Jacques Nienaber. I phoned Meyer Bosman's mother in December, and also Frans Malherbe's father and they both confirmed what I suspected. Frans and Meyer are half brothers
I also phoned the NP and ANC and it is just a formality really. Just need to line up a few quota positions, or a succession plan for a black person to be groomed for the next Bok coach.I will try to call Rassie on his mobile this evening. 
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
13 Jan 2020, 16:34
#4
13 Jan 2020, 16:34#4

sharkie, call Saffex for the best and most reliable news.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 16:39
#5
13 Jan 2020, 16:39#5

SB

We all know you are an idiot and you comments are as per normal idiotic. LMAO.     

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
13 Jan 2020, 17:55
#6
13 Jan 2020, 17:55#6
Meyer Bosman's mother also asked me to pass on her regards. She apologised for missing the last 3 0 calls you made to her last year. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 18:03
#7
13 Jan 2020, 18:03#7

Grow up please. 

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
13 Jan 2020, 18:29
#8
13 Jan 2020, 18:29#8

Does anyone know when the Head Coach announcement will be made?

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
13 Jan 2020, 20:16
#9
13 Jan 2020, 20:16#9
My guess is that the decision for who was going to be Bok coach was decided ages ago. The problem now is getting approval from the ANC who will want more black quota coaches to meet transformation objectives.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 20:39
#10
13 Jan 2020, 20:39#10

Dream on please. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 20:43
#11
13 Jan 2020, 20:43#11

AJH

After some controversy on site on the issue I phoned SARU and they told me that the appointment would be made before February and I believe that is still the target date,   Probably before the end of this month.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jan 2020, 21:33
#12
13 Jan 2020, 21:33#12

Are you saying 'before February' is 'before the end of the month'? Brilliant, that has eluded many great minds. And please copy and paste the comments of the member on this site saying Erasmus will have no say in the selection of the Head Coach.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Jan 2020, 21:36
#13
13 Jan 2020, 21:36#13

Yo u did and you can find your rubbish yourself.  LMAO  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jan 2020, 21:42
#14
13 Jan 2020, 21:42#14

No I didn't and I challenge you to find where I did. Or apologize.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
13 Jan 2020, 23:38
#15
13 Jan 2020, 23:38#15
The decision has been made ages ago. This is the ANC not approving the decision. 
There were articles published on Sport24 and other SA sports publications with comments from SARU that a new coach would be decided upon before the end of the year. https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/springboks-will-have-a-new-coach-by-christmas-20191129
Subsequent update articles said that the decision was stalled because the agent was on holiday at the end of December.  
https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/agent-on-festive-break-delaying-naming-of-new-springbok-coach-20191224


Yet, we should accept CleverWanker's story about his phone conversation with SARU instead? The basis is that January is before February...
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Jan 2020, 07:36
#16
14 Jan 2020, 07:36#16
Does it really matter who the next coach is?

Whoever it is, will still have to deal with the quotas ... with the pathetic Kolisi as captain ... and will have no choice but to obey the ANC and their racist policies.
He will have his assistant selected for him and will play according to how Rassie wants the Goats to play.
Nothing more than a puppet.

What kind of spineless fool would accept that?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jan 2020, 07:53
#17
14 Jan 2020, 07:53#17

CC

Stop dreaming about rugby - the team you despised won the RWC by a record margin. ,   

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Jan 2020, 07:59
#18
14 Jan 2020, 07:59#18

Yes they did.

Still doesn't change the fact that their coach ran away with his tail tucked and that their next coach will be dictated to like no other head coach in world rugby.

He'll be a spineless fool.




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Jan 2020, 08:43
#19
14 Jan 2020, 08:43#19

What are you talking about?   You are almost as mysterious as Mozart normal ly is,   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
14 Jan 2020, 23:10
#20
14 Jan 2020, 23:10#20
So I wonder if the imaginary agent is back from holiday. Perhaps the rugby journalists also phone SARU and get fed BS, just different versions.
As the director of Rugby, the Bok coach will report directly to him as his first-line manager. So Rassie will be a big influence on the decision regardless. However given Rassie has just won the world cup, probably whatever he says goes. 
It was the same executive team during the Alister Coetzee era, so it is not as if Rassie has not proven himself to be a miracle worker in comparison to Toetsie


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jan 2020, 11:58
#21
15 Jan 2020, 11:58#21

Th story about the agent was BS,   Fact is that the SARU President was ignorant when he said the coaching staff appointments  would be finalized by Christmas time.   The actual target date for appointment was always end January early February 2020 anyway,      

So let face the fact - if Erasmus is undermined  by anybody he will walk out of the SARU job and as a Rugby World Cup winning coach will earn three times as much as he is at present as an international or even club coach anywhere in the world.  Stade Francais will love to replace Meyer with him for instance.   

He has a legal contract on his side and neither SARU or the Government can threaten him at present.  

So lets be patient - the coaching appointments will be finalized within the next three weeks.           

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
15 Jan 2020, 14:30
#22
15 Jan 2020, 14:30#22

So the telephone receptionist you spoke to knows more than the SARU president? Or did Rassie just happen to pick up the phone when you called....

Rassie has a legal contract? This is with SARU-  not the ANC. Even if he had a legal contract with the ANC, it is not as if they would honour a legal contract. This is the same crew looting SA, so it is not as if they really care what is legal or not. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jan 2020, 16:11
#23
15 Jan 2020, 16:11#23

I did not speak to the telephonist - idiot.  When I asked the question about when the announcement will be made - I hear them discussing it amongst themselves and the answer was then given.

You must be uninformed about contracting,   If SARU does not keep their side of the deal - they would be guilty of breach of contract and Erasmus will have the right to claim damages from SARU and has the right to walk out of the contract - which will cause massive problems in SA and abroad - so the ANC does not figure at all.   SARU cannot claim they breached the contract because they acted on ANC instruction either.   World Sport in all codes of sport has protocols banning racism in sport,  South Africa has been skirting around that and came very close to sanctioning -  there is still a court case opened in London  on the issue/

Erasmus is too big a case to keep under wraps and the result could end up in  a Worldwide ban pf SA for selecting sports teams based on racism.   

I think that it is a storm ibn a tea cup and the fact is that we must wait nd see what happens.           

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jan 2020, 16:39
#24
15 Jan 2020, 16:39#24

The answer you have given us was based  on a conversation you heard among the telephonists,  while you were on the phone?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jan 2020, 16:41
#25
15 Jan 2020, 16:41#25

Mozart

Are you a nutcase - idiot?


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jan 2020, 16:54
#26
15 Jan 2020, 16:54#26

I'm more inclined to believe Bosman's mother. Be honest Wanker you are no more informed than any other member......telephonist tales.....hahaha! What a b/s artist!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jan 2020, 16:58
#27
15 Jan 2020, 16:58#27

I am honest - but you have been proved to be a habitual liar - so I woul d shut up if I were you.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jan 2020, 17:06
#28
15 Jan 2020, 17:06#28
Why....what were you planning to do....throw an internet punch? Waaaaahahaha....you heard  the conversation through the phone.....what a story!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Jan 2020, 17:14
#29
15 Jan 2020, 17:14#29

Listen dimness I was transferred  to staff in Erasmus's office and the question raised was discussed between staff members and I could hear the discussion between them quite clearly,  That are always idiotic,   

Anyway thus far I was quite right about what happened as to appointment of coaching staff and you were 100%   wrong.   So I would shut up about it if I were you,           

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Jan 2020, 17:33
#30
15 Jan 2020, 17:33#30

Actually no....you said Erasmus would pick the coach, the delay after his recommendation shows that was bs.

I said Erasmus would recommend  the coach and SARU would decide. Also probably  wrong ...it seems increasingly like the ANC will decide.....but much closerto the truth.


As for hearing a complete conversation through the telephone....sounds like a lie to me, but then it's only one among many.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
15 Jan 2020, 17:49
#31
15 Jan 2020, 17:49#31
So the people in the background had not decided until CleverWanker phoned in. They asked him to hold for a few seconds until they decided on the matter. Rassie and all the decision-makers were gathered around when receiving this call .

Let's just be grateful that CleverWanker phoned them when he did, otherwise they probably would not have made a decision when a Bok coach would be selected yet... 

--- The call went something like this--
CleverWanker: "Hi many name is CleverWanker. Have you decided when the next Bok coach will be decided".
WhoEverPickedUpPhone: " No not yet. However, let me just put you on hold for a moment"
WhoEverPickedUpPhone: " Just spoke to the team and we have now decided it will be before February. Also just to let you know January is before February".

CleverWanker: "Thanks, I did not know January was before February".
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Jan 2020, 17:50
#32
15 Jan 2020, 17:50#32

“ Erasmus is too big a case to keep under wraps and the result could end up in  a Worldwide ban pf SA for selecting sports teams based on racism.   ”

Hahahahahaha. This has been happening in SA for ages and despite many efforts to draw attention to it, it has never resulted in any ban of any from. What makes you think that it will start happening now? Especially in this era of wokeness ? Give me a break. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
16 Jan 2020, 13:45
#33
16 Jan 2020, 13:45#33

Ring, Ring. Ring, Ring. Ring, Ring. 

CW: "Hello, it is CleverWanker here".

SARFU: "Good Day CleverWanker, we are just phoning to say that everything is still going according to the plan we informed you about. We still expect to announce the decision before February, and we still believe January is before February. " So, there is no need to keep calling us each day". 

Rassie (in the background): "If only the ANC would let us make a *** decision. Can you please tell this poes CW to stop calling us? "

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2020, 14:54
#34
16 Jan 2020, 14:54#34

Please dim cunt quite funny - but as per normal totally confused by facts.  LMAO.         

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Jan 2020, 15:46
#35
16 Jan 2020, 15:46#35
Looks like Ou Maaikie has been infected by the incurable Saffexalitis virus....
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jan 2020, 16:01
#36
16 Jan 2020, 16:01#36

'Let me put you on hold Mr Wanker '.....'no no need to worry, our phones have the new app that allows you to hear everything when you are on hold'....'does Erasmus actually have an office here in SARU headquarters? I'll have to put you on hold again while I ask my supervisor"

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Jan 2020, 17:15
#37
16 Jan 2020, 17:15#37

This ping pong thread still alive?...some comedy gold in some of the shot s.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Jan 2020, 20:44
#38
16 Jan 2020, 20:44#38

The problem, is that whenever anybody endeavor to gee some info for the benefit of the site members and the end result is different from what some of the members want us to believe the end result always ends up like this,   Definitely no t  worth the effort, 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,244 posts
17 Jan 2020, 00:57
#39
17 Jan 2020, 00:57#39
Rassie: "FFS I want to quit this job, I just won the world cup, but can't announce my recommended and accepted coach by the board to the public". And worst of all some poes called CleverWike is stalking me..
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Jan 2020, 06:22
#40
17 Jan 2020, 06:22#40

Listen dimness - the target date for finalizing and announcing the coaching squad is one to two  weeks away.  Why don't you see what happens in that time?    If there is real involvement by the Government to undermine Erasmus and he walks out - there will be the greatest sporting scandal in history since 1994,    That will destroy rugby in SA and be the end of it.   So wait and see what happens,    

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