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Are our wingers poor defenders?

Started by Shezza6 REPLIES543 VIEWS· 16 Sept 2018, 15:05
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
16 Sept 2018, 15:05
#1
16 Sept 2018, 15:05#1

Are our wingers poor defenders or is it our own defensive system hanging them out to dry? 

Every match I go into it thinking that the opposition just has to figure a way out to suck our defenders in-field and then spread the ball wide quickly to run, unopposed, around our defensive line. 

This is the question that always comes to mind since Rassie has taken over. Nkosi did very well against the English and seems to even over power attackers, which I have yet to see any of his replacements do. I question Dyanti's defence as it's not consistent enough and Ben Smith taught him a few lessons in that first half. I can see him improving as he develops but is it a player problem or a system problem. Another factoring problem is our centers. Am has done well defending at 13 but at 12 and 10 it seems that there are vulnerabilities that cause our players to be sucked infield, leaving our wingers to cover a lot of space.  Thoughts?
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Sept 2018, 15:09
#2
16 Sept 2018, 15:09#2

Mapimpi and Dyantyi have saved our bacon quite a few times. 

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XaviPro1,924 posts
16 Sept 2018, 15:35
#3
16 Sept 2018, 15:35#3

Man for man, I'd say it's not the tackle but rather the defensive patterns not being done properly.

Our outside is rushing like an umbrella defence while the inside seems to slide in behind. I don't know why and I can't see any reason for it. 

Faf is also defending in the line a LOT, usually at guard(1st pillar) and not at point or sweeping.

Theres also not much in the way of trap/corridor defence or if they're doing it, it's not being done well.

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XaviPro1,924 posts
16 Sept 2018, 15:36
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16 Sept 2018, 15:36#4

Faf has done an incredible job there by the way. This isn't  a knock at him.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Sept 2018, 15:38
#5
16 Sept 2018, 15:38#5

There is a problem in defending in the channel - both Pollard and Jantjies have fouled up badly in that respect.   This in the previous two tests were complicated by poor defense of our loosies.   I am not so worried about the center issue - bar perhaps the outside center,   In the last 4 tests De Allende took 41 tackles and missed only 5.   However, the same cannot be said about Esterhuizen and in the case where Pollard came on to replace a center - him also.  

I now that De Allende is out for the remaining two tests - but I think Esterhuizen will be seriously problematic in defense as he was in his last three tests and I would think that Erasmus realizes that using Pollard at 12 would be a poor option as well.   Willemse may even be better in that regard.   

However, I would really like to see how Willemse develops at flyhalf and dumping  him in a position where he has not played since the WC in 2017 would to my mind not help in his development as a player.      

   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Sept 2018, 15:51
#6
16 Sept 2018, 15:51#6

Here we go again. Esterhuizen has yet to be surpassed by Damian. Both on attack or defence. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Sept 2018, 17:25
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16 Sept 2018, 17:25#7

No -please learn to read English:-

"Another factoring problem is our centers. Am has done well defending at 13 but at 12 and 10 it seems that there are vulnerabilities that cause our players to be sucked infield, leaving our wingers to cover a lot of space."  

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