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Arrogance or Confidence?

Started by Devil's Advocate24 REPLIES1,541 VIEWS· 26 Jul 2017, 13:39
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DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
26 Jul 2017, 13:39
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26 Jul 2017, 13:39#1

I guess with the last two previous scores being 50-17 and 20-3 in the Hurricanes favour, one could understand the confidence that the Hurricanes have in winning this one.


However, Cullen seems just downright certain that no other option exists after this weekend except an obvious Hurricanes vs Crusaders / Chiefs final.


I understand his reason for being confident, but his comments here just seem a little bit too arrogant to me, and it makes me support even more so, that the Lions take this one.


Source: News24


Cullen: ‘No doubt’ the 'Canes will beat Lions

         

   

Cape Town - Legendary former All Black and Hurricanes fullback Christian Cullen is confident that his former team will defeat the Lions in the Super Rugby semi-finals in Johannesburg on Saturday.


Cullen, who played 58 Tests for the All Blacks and 85 Super Rugby games for the Hurricanes, was speaking on New Zealand’s The Breakdown programme on Tuesday where he shared his views.


Cullen is not worried about the Hurricanes’ chances at Ellis Park, but rather what would await them in the final back in New Zealand the following week.


“It’s a challenge because I don’t think any team’s ever won this competition by travelling," Cullen said. "So, they’re going to have to do it. I think they can beat the Lions, I have no doubt about that, but it’s the coming back and facing the Crusaders of Chiefs (the following week). That’s the issue, but I have no doubt that they will win this weekend.”


Former All Black wing Jeff Wilson, who hosts the show, agreed with Cullen’s notion.

“I think the Hurricanes are going to win. There’s no Warren Whiteley for this Lions team. I think he is by far and away their best player, particularly among the loose forwards," Wilson said.


When they face the Hurricanes on Saturday, it will be the Lions' first game against New Zealand opposition in 2017.


Last year, the Hurricanes beat the Lions 50-17 in Johannesburg and also beat them 20-3 in the final in Wellington.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Jul 2017, 13:43
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26 Jul 2017, 13:43#2
 He's supporting his team, he played for the Canes & he's no turncoat. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Jul 2017, 14:18
#3
26 Jul 2017, 14:18#3
I'd say confidence if they win.....arrogance if they lose.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
26 Jul 2017, 14:39
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26 Jul 2017, 14:39#4
They have to start as favourites. If memory serves me correctly, Jantjies has a nightmare every game he plays against the Canes rush defence.  So hopefully, some plan has been made to give Jantjies space and time.
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
26 Jul 2017, 14:51
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26 Jul 2017, 14:51#5
I find it interesting how highly they seem to rate Whitely. As a player, not as a captain. Maybe us South Africans are missing something in him? Yes, he has support in SA, but mostly because of his quality as a captain. 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Jul 2017, 15:22
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26 Jul 2017, 15:22#6
 
Seems he's written the Chiefs off too.

I think we'll be up for the match come Saturday. GO JANTJIESSSSSSSSSS!!!

It's good to hear the Kiwis mouthing off like this. I like it. I can see where their countrymen ... and lady ... on this board get it from.

We need the Canes to arrive at Ellis Park in the same arrogant state ... a little complacent ... completely cocksure ... merely here to go through the formality of collecting their win at the door on their way home.

It is after all already in the bag.

Go Chiefs!!!!



 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
26 Jul 2017, 15:32
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26 Jul 2017, 15:32#7

Same here CC


Shouting for the Lions and the Chiefs !!


 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
26 Jul 2017, 15:41
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26 Jul 2017, 15:41#8
 Well, it is difficult to ignore last week's performance by the Lions, and last year's agaimst the Canes, but I think the Lions might just be third time lucky...hope so!
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
26 Jul 2017, 16:27
#9
26 Jul 2017, 16:27#9
 
Thanks DA ... it's good to have your support.

It would be fantastic if we could win this one.


CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
26 Jul 2017, 22:46
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26 Jul 2017, 22:46#10
 I dont think you can call that arrogance, everything points to a Canes win apart from the travel and home field advantage.
Going to be a close game but if the Canes are on their game they will take this.
Now for some arrogance just to give you yapies something to get in a lather over. Doesnt matter who wins as the Crusaders will beat whoever they play either here or in SA
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
27 Jul 2017, 02:39
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27 Jul 2017, 02:39#11
 Nothing wrong with backing your team no matter what happens ,some of the saffas like cc and other fair weather fans should try it instead of attacking their own teams when things get tough for them.Crusties have alrea dy written off the Chiefs but thats just their way hehehehehe....Cheers Crusadersfan and good luck Bro!
CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
27 Jul 2017, 03:20
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27 Jul 2017, 03:20#12
Cheers Wardad
I am always confident the Crusaders will win when they play even if they are not the favorites. They are my team and deserve a 100% of my support and the main benifit of that is I am allowed to rant and rave if they play like sh!t AFTER the game but I will always support them.
Going to be a cracker of a game this weekend, the mighty Crusaders by 12If we lose I am backing the Chiefs because if they can travel from SA and beat us at home they deserve to win the competition. Besides I have a serious dislike of the Canes  because of K Quinn, I hold a grudge for a long time as this goes back over 20 years hahahaWill however begrudgingly back the Canes this weekend as they are playing a foreign team.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Jul 2017, 04:01
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27 Jul 2017, 04:01#13
 Hi Wardad, hope you are recovering well mate.
Well there was a day when our SA rivals had athletic arrogance and confidence. Now it seems it is in short supply over there. IMO you need both the be a top team, this doesn't mean you'll win everything but can get you in the right frame of mind. One things for sure without it you don't stand much of a chance.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
27 Jul 2017, 12:28
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27 Jul 2017, 12:28#14
 Cheers JW !All good now thanks bro ,gawd I hope the Mighty Chiefs sneak one in .If not I will happily back any other Kiwi team .Remember Blackboy ? He didnt care who the Chiefs were playing the opposition could all cark it and he would be fine with that .Includes Kiwi teams too !
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Jul 2017, 12:50
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27 Jul 2017, 12:50#15
 Whiteley is a very important cog in the Lions machine. That said it is  hilarious to watch these kbbs chest beating blowhards in action. Hahahahahahahahaha
As for wee cc if the Lions lose he will turn on them with a vengeance. He is a fair weather friend much like ou cerudunce windpom's bulle supporters at Loftus.  
JW of course has by now a concave chest.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Jul 2017, 00:35
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28 Jul 2017, 00:35#16
 Ha ha, yes Blackboy we will never forget him. One thing he did say that was correct was:
"Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs"
He was a little on the excessive side in nearly everything else though. 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
29 Jul 2017, 05:58
#17
29 Jul 2017, 05:58#17
 Hey Cloudy ! Too true about blackboy ,he was a strnge little man for sure .As regards cc I just dont bother reading his garbage its just the same boring crap over and over ,about on a par with beandiks nonsense .Which is at times unintentionally hilarious by virtue of his amazing ability to channel every stupid thought that enters his or any other halfwits mind.JW yep Blackboy was Tainui to the core eh ?
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
29 Jul 2017, 08:53
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29 Jul 2017, 08:53#18
 
Well ... the day has finally arrived and I'm super excited.

Nervous as sh!t too.

The Lions are gonna clean up and send them kiwis packing with their tails firmly tucked.

Whatever happens ... I hope it's a cracker of a match ... with an on fire Jantjies ... no dubious ref calls ... and may the best team walk away with the spoils.

Gooooooooooooooooooooo Lionssssssssssss!!
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Jul 2017, 19:07
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29 Jul 2017, 19:07#19
Hey Christian
Just wanted to say hi.......  
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
29 Jul 2017, 19:09
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29 Jul 2017, 19:09#20
Cullen's confidence was fine for about 35 minutes.
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Jul 2017, 19:25
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29 Jul 2017, 19:25#21
Spot on JW
That comeback by the Lions was not just awesome to see, it was phenomenal to watch.
22-3 down just before half time and then the Lions scored
From there it was touch and go...... touch and go...... then the Lions pulled it off
A great game indeed 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Jul 2017, 20:12
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29 Jul 2017, 20:12#22
 The Lion's surprised me today. Showed a lot of heart...the most important ingredient of success.  Well done!
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,258 posts
29 Jul 2017, 23:17
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29 Jul 2017, 23:17#23
Apparently last year when the Canes beat the Lions, the Lions pack was not at full strength. Today even without Whitely the Lions pack outmuscled the hurricanes, and also beat them at the rucks.
The Sharks pack was a good work out before the semi.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
30 Jul 2017, 08:08
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30 Jul 2017, 08:08#24
 
Thanks ... appreciate it.

From 22 - 3 down ... and then scoring 41 pts to the Canes' 7 ... was simply amazing.

We were very nervous at the start but as the match moved closer to the half way mark we started to settle. You could see their tails lifting slowly. Our first try turned the match on it's head and we sarted to believe.

We had lost 13 of the last 14 encounters to the Canes so that too was battle we had to overcome.

Not sure what was said during the break, but Janties came back a changed man. Somebody must have whispered sweet nothings into his ear. Who ever managed that should have his wages doubled. 

It was wonderful to see how we dominated both set pieces. Mostert claimed his 15 steal of the season ... and to think there are those who don't rate him. LOL!!

In the end ... a hiding.

GO LIONSSS!!!


MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
31 Jul 2017, 03:07
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31 Jul 2017, 03:07#25
Cullen had reason to be confident before the Jo-burg visit. The first half looked like it was going to be a cricket score and was feeling for the Lions supporters. Although, I'm an ex Banana Boy, I was extremely proud of the Lions effort in the 2nd half and hope and pray they can emulate in the final.
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