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At some point Someone has to admit that Mozzart was..

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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
26 Jul 2014, 14:51
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26 Jul 2014, 14:51#1

right about Lambie's lack of vision.  I've been a Lambie fan and thought Lambie the Bok 10 in the making, but after that type display, I'm having second thoughts on him as the answer for the Boks' number 10 jersey.  It could be argued though that Lambie shouldn't have started at fly-half, since he's just came off his injury.  


The lad could not find touch today no matter where he kicked the ball from, and then there was these kicks of his down field where Dagg collected uncontested lose balls on a regular basis.  It was quite a shocking sight to behold.  Mvovo knocked-on at crucial time, JP went missing allowing Madolo to cause havoc in that channel, Alberts' big-hits were non-existent.  


But as we say, its a team effort and the whole team never clicked today.


The bench didn't make any impact IMO, or did they?     

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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Jul 2014, 14:58
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26 Jul 2014, 14:58#2
 most people in thye know knew lambie was nothing. he hasnt done anything in five years. no teams play better with him ever. so why give him praise. he sounds like a pretty nice fella in person, its nothing personal just not that good a rugby player. what is really bad is that people only loved lambie because they hated morne and wanted to look for every reason to hate him and ignore everything he did that was good. they wanted lambie to be the alternative and kept turning a blind eye to his poor play.
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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:09
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26 Jul 2014, 15:09#3
 True Gonzo, I think Steyn should have occupied the Fly-half position for that particular match till Lambie was up to speed with the rest of the team, paring Jordan and Sithole as our Center combo.  Well, we were well beaten lads, that's all folks.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:11
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26 Jul 2014, 15:11#4
Now that's pretty naive, ignore the poor performance of Steyn just because Lambie didn't kick at goals particularly well. 
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:13
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26 Jul 2014, 15:13#5
 steyn is the better player, both steyns have always been better. they have bad moments like every player, but they do so much more that is good. that's the difference.
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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:22
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26 Jul 2014, 15:22#6
 @ Shezza; there is no naivety at all, Steyn kicked well last weekend, I agree he went missing in probably the entire match today, and so does a lot of guys out there. Just because I didn't particularly single him out doesn't mean I'm naive.  The whole team messed up out there. 





 
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WardadPro6,663 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:24
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26 Jul 2014, 15:24#7
My girls reckon lambiekins is pretty but even they know not to pick him for a rugged team !  
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:44
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26 Jul 2014, 15:44#8
 He's not a match winner that's for certain, but both Steyn's aren't either and are closer to match losers. Mind there's a lesson to be learnt, don't start a player in only his second match returning from injury. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 15:57
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26 Jul 2014, 15:57#9
 As Beeno and campo said - lack of game time for Lambie was a problem. Steyn should have been at flyhlaf.
Problem was missing tight forwards Beast, Du Toit and Bresler. That and travel bug. Sharks were clearly not themselves. So many unforced foul ups and lack of energy. Folk are overestimating the crusties. Sharks made them look good.
We even had the mcaaaw groupies in full flight - even though he did very little of course.
Gooooo Warts!
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hakwaPro4,146 posts
26 Jul 2014, 16:00
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26 Jul 2014, 16:00#10
 Beens, the Landers sucked all the energy out of the Sharks a week ago. That and the distraction provided by the those lovely Sader girls wearing short skirts and waving those wooden swords and winking at the Sharks players.
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3ku1Pro2,580 posts
26 Jul 2014, 16:15
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26 Jul 2014, 16:15#11
 Beeno really anyone with eyes could see Richie was best on park. You really need to take your blinkers off and realize Richies greatness . I think youve got it all wrong, apart from missing a few key players, this Sharks performance was inevitable. Tbh i never rated them at all even when they were winning, if they played again next Saturday it would be the same result. Sharks had a favourable home draw, and thus were teetering on the edge, and Saders finished them off. Saders were so good, they made Sharks look bad anyone cld see that. You clearly have an issue giving credit where credits due to NZ teams, which is odd seeing we always win . Lambie wasent too bad he made a few gd breaks, missed a few kicks tho. Whole  team was under immense pressure the entire game, F Steyn went quiet the whole game. I wouldent underestimate the Saders, Tahs well be favs being at home, but when Tahs meet Saders in Finals History says Saders always win, only time well tell if this is different. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Jul 2014, 16:27
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26 Jul 2014, 16:27#12
Listen a depleted Storemers side outplayed the crusaders at home and the sharks beat them with 13 men at home. How good can these hapless crusties really be one has to ask.
Sharks by playing so badly made them look okay.Wee mcaaaw was a damp squib. Lets hope Hansen thinks otherwise. The show pony read was thumped by JP and left tehfield.Dan - well i did laugh when he got rid of the ball extra quick when Bissie loomed up. Hhahahahahaha.
No Sharks were apalling so no credit the the wee crusties.
Beeno giving credit where credit DUE

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Jul 2014, 18:41
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26 Jul 2014, 18:41#13
 
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July 26, 2014, 13:44:15  He's not a match winner that's for certain, but both Steyn's aren't either and are closer to match losers. Mind there's a lesson to be learnt, don't start a player in only his second match returning from injury. 



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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
26 Jul 2014, 22:05
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26 Jul 2014, 22:05#14
 morne has the best points scored ratio of all boks except monty. match losers, yeah right! shezza you keep blowing your load over moffies like lambie and goosen get a grip. your opinion is just flat out wrong.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Jul 2014, 02:41
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27 Jul 2014, 02:41#15
Ntanga I appreciate your comment. I spent quite a bit of time doing a mozcroscope of Lambie vs Wales, and got huge stick for that. But today was uncannily similar.
The thing that bothered me was all the hype about Lambie after the Landers game...where he made one poor line kick, one poor up and under and a few ordinary passes. It was a massive brain washing exercise, and so many braiRjns got washed.
I have always liked Lambie...a gutsy kid who tries hard and conducts himself well. But last year in the S15 he had a long run at 10 and achieved very little...his running stats were way worse than Morne. And by season end Pat was shifted to 12.
The fact is he is a kicker at flyhalf. He has no running skills himself, nor does he see the field like a Willie. Small, slow and lacking in vision how the blazes is he going to spark the running game. It was all a big illusion.
He can be a solid defensive fullback....and oddly he runs better from 15, because he can cut onto the ball. Leave him there as a defensive option to Willie.
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